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Re: When to use a cross point

 

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I have wondered why it's only an hour and half at the end of 301 class if it is so powerful.

I would love to see a dedicated class, which I've asked for since 2012

The greatest thing I've gotten from the SW office was a technicians code showing multiple TP's to rooms & sources


Trey


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On Sep 11, 2015, at 8:09 PM, eagrubbs@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:

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JUST USE XPOINTS ON BIG SYSTEMS!!!! it will make life easier. I promise. :)
Re: When to use a cross point

 

JUST USE XPOINTS ON BIG SYSTEMS!!!! it will make life easier. I promise. :)
Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button

 

This is incredibly easy to do in D3, select the button and assign it to be a toggle + Dim, done.?

In SIMPL you're going to need to have more than just a toggle.?
Re: TSW-1052 Subpage not clearing on Main Page

 

Have you given the page a join? If it has no join number, it will always appear.
Re: Panasonic AW-HE130

 

Make sure the module is 3 series compatible. If it isn't tested on 3 series it may be using semaphores instead of threadsafe, so a QMRMC may be the easiest solution.
Re: When to use a cross point

 

As opposed to hitting F2 only to find the signal only goes to an ecross? I'd rather wade through buffers than wade through nothingness.

On Sep 11, 2015 5:50 PM, "tim@... [Crestron]" <Crestron@...> wrote:

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There's nothing worse that taking over code, hitting F2 on a signal and having it trace to 20+ buffers and then realizing that the whole project is built that way.? I know tracing cross point connects can sometimes be a little difficult, but nothing like having to trace through hundreds of buffers and the enable for each of those. ?


For small commercial systems, most of the time they are not necessary.? For residential or large scale commercial, they are an absolute must for organization and future expansion. ?
Re: Panasonic AW-HE130

 

Maybe the Panasonics support HTTP 1.1 (to keep a connection open) but for some reason the Crestron module is using HTTP 1.0?

Using WireShark to look at the connection details when using IE would probably be a good start.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 5:39 PM, bassman233@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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Has anyone had success controlling an AW-HE130 over ethernet?? This project was supposed to get an HE-120 but they were out of stock (likely discontinued) so we got the 130.? Everything appears to be the same as the HE-120 except it is POE and supports streaming.

The module for the HE-120 (and HE-60/50) controls it, but the manual controls (pan/tilt/zoom buttons) run away if pressed for less than about 2.5 seconds.? The Panasonics use HTTP for control, and I can see in debugger that the connection drops after a response, and is slow to reopen, which seems to be how it is missing the 'stop' command.? Preset store & recall works fine, which is the bulk of the use on this job, but I need to give them a way to set presets.?

The web gui for the camera works flawlessly, but only works with IE, so I'm guessing there's something going on HTTP wise there that isn't happening from the module.? I've tried digging through the module and its multiple S+ children, but i'm not seeing anything that jumps out at me.?

I can't do RS422 because the camera is POE and no room for an additional cable in the pipe (long story).?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don
Re: When to use a cross point

 

There's nothing worse that taking over code, hitting F2 on a signal and having it trace to 20+ buffers and then realizing that the whole project is built that way. ?I know tracing cross point connects can sometimes be a little difficult, but nothing like having to trace through hundreds of buffers and the enable for each of those. ?

For small commercial systems, most of the time they are not necessary. ?For residential or large scale commercial, they are an absolute must for organization and future expansion. ?
Panasonic AW-HE130

 

Has anyone had success controlling an AW-HE130 over ethernet?? This project was supposed to get an HE-120 but they were out of stock (likely discontinued) so we got the 130.? Everything appears to be the same as the HE-120 except it is POE and supports streaming.

The module for the HE-120 (and HE-60/50) controls it, but the manual controls (pan/tilt/zoom buttons) run away if pressed for less than about 2.5 seconds.? The Panasonics use HTTP for control, and I can see in debugger that the connection drops after a response, and is slow to reopen, which seems to be how it is missing the 'stop' command.? Preset store & recall works fine, which is the bulk of the use on this job, but I need to give them a way to set presets.?

The web gui for the camera works flawlessly, but only works with IE, so I'm guessing there's something going on HTTP wise there that isn't happening from the module.? I've tried digging through the module and its multiple S+ children, but i'm not seeing anything that jumps out at me.?

I can't do RS422 because the camera is POE and no room for an additional cable in the pipe (long story).?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don
TSW-1052 Subpage not clearing on Main Page

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Hi there,


I am having an issue where I have a subpage for?Single setpoint control on?thermostat CHV-TSTAT and everytime that i upload my files to the mc3 or the screen goes on standby and i wake the screen, the Subpage for the Single setpoint control appears in the middle of screen by itself. Does anyone have any idea why tis is happening? I have already made it invisible on my VTPro.

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Re: When to use a cross point

Andrew Welker
 

Keep in mind that all your touchpanel page logic could be on the to side of the crosspoint, that way touchpanel can operate independently, but still show the same feedback information depending on what equipment it is controlling.


On Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 4:47 PM?kris.k@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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With crosspoints, it was super easy to set up a client with 13 ipad minis, all able to roam and be selected to control any room in the house.? Without crosspoints, this would take a huge amount of signals. ?


I started seeing the benefits when they started incorporating the xpoints into the hardware interface symbols, and the example programs.
Re: Old VT Project Opening Empty

Andrew Welker
 

As a taco on to Oliver's note, don't use a & in the room name of the Fusion room symbol. It makes the Fusion Symbol discovery process choke and die. Basically, avoid '&' anywhere it might possibly be put into an XML file, since Crestron apparently doesn't escape them correctly in any situation.


On Fri, Sep 11, 2015, 4:38 PM?oliver.hall@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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A bit OT, but in a similar vein, when creating custom themes, DO NOT use '&' in the theme file name.

VTPro will do some very odd things like not show?the first instance of a?subpage...

It's an issue with VTPro, rather than the theme, and this is true for themes created in Studio as well as, err, other theme editing software products.
Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button

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I just downloaded the CLX-1DIM8 Module from the Files folder and what I did was used a Toggle symbol to toggle from raise to lower and is working now. The other problem i am having now is that it only dims, if i press the button once, the lights will not turn on or off. I have to hold every time I want it to turn on.?
Re: D3 Pro not loading

 

You nailed it! I opened SIMPL, set userDB back to default folder and D3 works. Don't get why it's fine on my laptop but won't work with different folder on desktop all of a sudden.

Thanks for your help!!
Re: When to use a cross point

 

With crosspoints, it was super easy to set up a client with 13 ipad minis, all able to roam and be selected to control any room in the house. ?Without crosspoints, this would take a huge amount of signals. ?

I started seeing the benefits when they started incorporating the xpoints into the hardware interface symbols, and the example programs.
Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button

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Hello Keith, I am working in SIMPL
Re: Old VT Project Opening Empty

 

A bit OT, but in a similar vein, when creating custom themes, DO NOT use '&' in the theme file name.

VTPro will do some very odd things like not show?the first instance of a?subpage...

It's an issue with VTPro, rather than the theme, and this is true for themes created in Studio as well as, err, other theme editing software products.
Re: C2N-CB OLD Style Having trouble making it dim of one button

 

Using SIMPL or D3?
Re: When to use a cross point

Heather Baiman
 

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One of the bonuses that came when I converted to crosspoints from buffers (many years ago now) was panel tracking for sources.? I had always wanted all panels that were controlling the same zone to track source control and I couldn¡¯t get my head around all the buffering and nonsense it would take to make this happen with all interfaces. When I moved to crosspoints it happened as a byproduct of the way I setup the crosspoints.

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So let's say, if the TP in the wall is on "Radio" and the touchpanel in the user's hand changes the source in that room, the panel in the wall will update as well.? I only have panels track sources, that way one person could go the wall and change the temp on the HVAC page and not disturb the person on the source control page.

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There is a lot of power in them and even when I have to do an occasional one or two room TV system, I still use crosspoints? and all the same logic (that's applicable) that I would use in a 40 room system.? This way as I update systems going forward I can easily drop in the new features without having to "custom" them for different programming methodologies.

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Subject: [Crestron] Re: When to use a cross point

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Well yeah, except panels acting independently with how I've been coding them is just separate page flip logic... and for me that's an INIT/EQU.

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If I have a button press and feedback for a DVD player, that same signal goes on all panels. I don't see a reason to buffer it with tp1_play and tp2_play, which I guess what crosspoints are doing in the background.?

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More or better examples would be great!





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Re: Samsung Consumer Lineup

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Thank you Heather, my inference is that it's good to go.? I have had 2 of the ex-link controlled tv's that have not worked, the rest did very well.
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