Thanks,
All very helpful. Will have a look for the other thread too.

Cheers
Brad

Would you mind sharing your edited module with the discrete Home/Away inputs, Mark?

Chip, so you're saying I'm not crazy and I may be on to something? Might be time to update this module.?

I have a customer who 'mis-ordered' a TSCW-730, which is a panel/processor all in one, and they intend to use it as a touchpanel only with a DMPS3-300.???

1) Should I use EISC in both units, and just have a basic program in the TSCW that passes the button presses to/from the EISC?

2) There is a "TSCW-730 Remote Ethernet Processing" device definition available in the Device Library.? If I place that in the ethernet slot of the DMPS at a given IP ID, can I then setup the TSCW as a slave and put an entry in its ip id table directing it to the ip id inside the DMPS?

Which would work or be the recommended method?

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From my years of programming experience, I can generalize when the use of crosspoints is useful.? If you do large scale residential projects, chances are, you use them, or have a need for them.? If you do commercial projects, you probably do not.

That may be over-simplistic, but I've been programming commercial for 15 years, and have never needed, or found crosspoints to be beneficial in all those jobs.? There may have been a handful of those projects that might have been borderline useful to use crosspoints, but not many.? However, I have done a few resi jobs here and there, and that is where doing the project without them would have been very difficult indeed.

The reason I see it is this...? "Typical" resi projects have multiple panels controlling various rooms in the house, and often have roaming panels to be able to be walked around the house and control each room.? You have a many to many relationship between panel, zones, and devices.? However, in commercial projects, you have maybe 1 or 2 panels, that are usually dedicated to a certain space.? The spaces in commercial tend to be one large system (rather than many little systems like resi), that have lots more displays in them, but a common set of source devices.? You don't really need crosspoints, and most of the time I've seen commercial systems programmed using crosspoints, it was overkill, a pain to debug, and felt like the original programmer was trying to use a hammer to drive in a screw (square ped/round hole etc).

I've done some large commercial jobs, but in most (almost all) cases, each room has it's own processor, is completely seperate from other rooms, and each have their own dedicated touch panels that don't roam around trying to control all the rooms in a building.

For those saying (referring to commercial projects) if you don't use crosspoints, you have dozens or more buffers instead.? What are you talking about?? No.? No you don't.? Not unless you're trying to emulate crosspoints with buffers, but that is not necessary.? The only time you would need to use a bunch of buffers is if you were trying to use the same join #'s for all your devices (like crosspoints do), but if you don't do that, you don't need to buffer anything.

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I have a system with 2 large rooms. ?23 displays in 1 room, 23 displays and a 16 panel video wall in another. ?8 cable tuners, 4 for the video wall and 4 for overhead sound through BSS 806 for overhead sound. ?All displays are fed video from a PCO headend, hence the tuners for audio and VW. ?Quite a bit more but that is the general gist of it. ?All IP controlled.

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JUST USE XPOINTS ON BIG SYSTEMS!!!! it will make life easier. I promise. :)

This is incredibly easy to do in D3, select the button and assign it to be a toggle + Dim, done.?

Have you given the page a join? If it has no join number, it will always appear.

Make sure the module is 3 series compatible. If it isn't tested on 3 series it may be using semaphores instead of threadsafe, so a QMRMC may be the easiest solution.

As opposed to hitting F2 only to find the signal only goes to an ecross? I'd rather wade through buffers than wade through nothingness.

There's nothing worse that taking over code, hitting F2 on a signal and having it trace to 20+ buffers and then realizing that the whole project is built that way. ?I know tracing cross point connects can sometimes be a little difficult, but nothing like having to trace through hundreds of buffers and the enable for each of those. ?

Has anyone had success controlling an AW-HE130 over ethernet?? This project was supposed to get an HE-120 but they were out of stock (likely discontinued) so we got the 130.? Everything appears to be the same as the HE-120 except it is POE and supports streaming.

The module for the HE-120 (and HE-60/50) controls it, but the manual controls (pan/tilt/zoom buttons) run away if pressed for less than about 2.5 seconds.? The Panasonics use HTTP for control, and I can see in debugger that the connection drops after a response, and is slow to reopen, which seems to be how it is missing the 'stop' command.? Preset store & recall works fine, which is the bulk of the use on this job, but I need to give them a way to set presets.?

The web gui for the camera works flawlessly, but only works with IE, so I'm guessing there's something going on HTTP wise there that isn't happening from the module.? I've tried digging through the module and its multiple S+ children, but i'm not seeing anything that jumps out at me.?

I can't do RS422 because the camera is POE and no room for an additional cable in the pipe (long story).?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Don

Keep in mind that all your touchpanel page logic could be on the to side of the crosspoint, that way touchpanel can operate independently, but still show the same feedback information depending on what equipment it is controlling.

As a taco on to Oliver's note, don't use a & in the room name of the Fusion room symbol. It makes the Fusion Symbol discovery process choke and die. Basically, avoid '&' anywhere it might possibly be put into an XML file, since Crestron apparently doesn't escape them correctly in any situation.