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Re: Flat panel box
Paul Cunningham
I'm a fan of the Chief PAC-516 for most TVs, but they offer several different models depending on your specific needs. Sturdy, reasonable price, readily available, full complement of documentation/CAD.
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From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Eric Williams Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:53 AM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Flat panel box Anyone know of a good pre construction box with enough recessed area to preferably house Rmc boxes and power supplies. Sent from my pocket robot! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Helpful hints to not get flamed
Wow, I missed the fun post. Yeah, cert specific questions are touchy, I am more upset with crestron for giving more time to get the test done and using the old test with passing it out before some people made it to cert class. Isn't that part of the test is to meet a deadline?
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The repetitive ir/SB questions get a little annoying (I wish they would stop), and the cert specific questions I may read and will try to help, but there is NO WAY I will give you a direct answer to solve your problem. I had several people point me in the right direction and I would figure it out. Learning takes time and mistakes, but you have to put the effort in. No one is going to know all the answers, but you do need to be able to take a ball and run with it. I mean I still ask you guys questions because many of you know a lot more than I do. So all I can say is thanks for helping and I will try to do the same. It is also good to carry an old URC remote with you to learn codes from. I carry an mx-700. Old/cheap but if I have to have codes and it is not in the Crestron, RTI database the I have a fall back. --- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
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Re: Helpful hints to not get flamed
If I can add to the "be more resourceful"
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Every programmer should have or have access to an IR Learner whenever they're programming, onsite or off. The new learner is tiny and cheap, and there's really no excuse, IMO, not to just have one in your laptop bag. Sure, learning remotes is not the most glorious thing -- when necessary I typically take it/them back to the hotel with me and learn with my feet up on a coffee table watching TV -- but it's usually a heck of a lot faster & more reliable than waiting for someone to reply with something that "might" "be close" Yeah, sometimes the remote gets lost but the majority of the time it's right there with the manuals... Lincoln -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I: Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Nathan Hesson Sent: Monday, May 20, 2013 9:25 AM To: crestron Subject: [Crestron] Helpful hints to not get flamed I've seen some threads getting rather testy lately and I thought I would post some helpful hints to help others avoid feeling internet wrath. 1. Do NOT post with questions or requests for help on tests. The tests mean something. They are an indication of your skills. They are supposed to be a measurable baseline that we ALL get judged upon. If a person gets a certification and is undeserving of it, it tarnishes the reputation of the certification that the rest of us have. Your certification does not just apply to programming ability, it also has underlying implications that you can search for information (see item 2), understand protocols, build your own modules and IR drivers, etc... 2. Be more resourceful. There is a wealth of knowledge to be had. Search engines do a lovely job trying help you find that information. If you're looking for an IR driver, do the following BEFORE posting a "Does anyone have this?" a. Look in the Crestron DB b. Try drivers for other models of similar devices. Chances are, the codes are similar. c. Search the files here (hint, your browsers search feature works really well for this). d. Search remote central. Even if you have to download pronto software and grab hex codes and then dump them into DEAL, you should be doing this before asking if anyone has a driver. e. Look at other companies IR databases. There's a tool out there somewhere that can convert AMX drivers to Crestron (Vert?). Look at RTI. You can pull hex codes out of their IR database and put them into DEAL. Go through every available resource you know. Similarly, the same effort should go into finding ethernet and serial protocols. There are a TON of modules here and if you spend more than 30 minutes with any search engine, you'll probably get close to what you're looking for. Try multiple search engines, they don't always pull the same results. Try different search terms, get creative. Other options available include picking up the phone and calling support to find that information. Remember, when members of the group post responses for peoples questions, they are actively taking time out of their days to offer assistance. Don't waste that time if you can do some searching on your own. As a bonus, you'll be a better programmer for honing your search skills more. 3. Start your own archive for this groups content. I can't recommend this enough. Gmail works really well, the storage is free and you have a better (IMHO) search engine than the one that yahoo uses for the groups. Create a new account and change your email preferences for the group so you get each message as a single email. If you already have gmail, just use an incoming filter to put everything in a label and skip your inbox. Sure, you'll need to use the web interface to find information older than your archives start date, but it's better than nothing. 4. Remember that tone is a tricky thing when reading and writing messages. Do NOT post in all caps. It is the internet equivalent of shouting (how I wish the caps lock key were never invented). If someone prefaces their post with, "Don't take this the wrong way" or "Not to be rude" chances are, they know what they are saying is going to be difficult to swallow. It doesn't mean that they are instantly a jerk for saying what they did. It's the internet, thick skin required. My $0.02 -Nathan ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Helpful hints to not get flamed
I've seen some threads getting rather testy lately and I thought I would
post some helpful hints to help others avoid feeling internet wrath. 1. Do NOT post with questions or requests for help on tests. The tests mean something. They are an indication of your skills. They are supposed to be a measurable baseline that we ALL get judged upon. If a person gets a certification and is undeserving of it, it tarnishes the reputation of the certification that the rest of us have. Your certification does not just apply to programming ability, it also has underlying implications that you can search for information (see item 2), understand protocols, build your own modules and IR drivers, etc... 2. Be more resourceful. There is a wealth of knowledge to be had. Search engines do a lovely job trying help you find that information. If you're looking for an IR driver, do the following BEFORE posting a "Does anyone have this?" a. Look in the Crestron DB b. Try drivers for other models of similar devices. Chances are, the codes are similar. c. Search the files here (hint, your browsers search feature works really well for this). d. Search remote central. Even if you have to download pronto software and grab hex codes and then dump them into DEAL, you should be doing this before asking if anyone has a driver. e. Look at other companies IR databases. There's a tool out there somewhere that can convert AMX drivers to Crestron (Vert?). Look at RTI. You can pull hex codes out of their IR database and put them into DEAL. Go through every available resource you know. Similarly, the same effort should go into finding ethernet and serial protocols. There are a TON of modules here and if you spend more than 30 minutes with any search engine, you'll probably get close to what you're looking for. Try multiple search engines, they don't always pull the same results. Try different search terms, get creative. Other options available include picking up the phone and calling support to find that information. Remember, when members of the group post responses for peoples questions, they are actively taking time out of their days to offer assistance. Don't waste that time if you can do some searching on your own. As a bonus, you'll be a better programmer for honing your search skills more. 3. Start your own archive for this groups content. I can't recommend this enough. Gmail works really well, the storage is free and you have a better (IMHO) search engine than the one that yahoo uses for the groups. Create a new account and change your email preferences for the group so you get each message as a single email. If you already have gmail, just use an incoming filter to put everything in a label and skip your inbox. Sure, you'll need to use the web interface to find information older than your archives start date, but it's better than nothing. 4. Remember that tone is a tricky thing when reading and writing messages. Do NOT post in all caps. It is the internet equivalent of shouting (how I wish the caps lock key were never invented). If someone prefaces their post with, "Don't take this the wrong way" or "Not to be rude" chances are, they know what they are saying is going to be difficult to swallow. It doesn't mean that they are instantly a jerk for saying what they did. It's the internet, thick skin required. My $0.02 -Nathan |
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
Yep, reading comprehension fail on my part for not seeing the V24/DGE2 callout in the OP.
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The next question is to look at what's going on in the system that's different between the two pages and that zone, particularly look for anything generating a high number of transitions -- the behavior described is also possible if the processor is under excessive load, such as a polling loop going wild, etc. Lincoln -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of xylantech Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 11:13 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Re: Strange subpage / join number problem It's a V24/DG2E on hardwired Ethernet. The Volume Up/Down buttons are steered to the various rooms by an "Adagio (AES) Large TP Room GUI Interface v2.4" module. All other rooms act OK on the same buttons. How can the same button work on 5 rooms, but not on the sixth? The page doesn't change when you select a different room. The buttons are 'steered' to the next room via the GUI module. The only thing that changes on the TP page is some indirect text that tells you what room you're controlling. If you try to control the room (using the same button on the same subpage) from a different page (the Room Setup page vs the Main page), it works OK. If you control the volume directly on the AES, it works OK. --- In Crestron@..., trayschaeffer <trayschaeffer@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
Chip
No... Or at least not yet - at least not in the sense that I believe you're asking - did someone tell you otherwise?
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
It's a V24/DG2E on hardwired Ethernet.
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The Volume Up/Down buttons are steered to the various rooms by an "Adagio (AES) Large TP Room GUI Interface v2.4" module. All other rooms act OK on the same buttons. How can the same button work on 5 rooms, but not on the sixth? The page doesn't change when you select a different room. The buttons are 'steered' to the next room via the GUI module. The only thing that changes on the TP page is some indirect text that tells you what room you're controlling. If you try to control the room (using the same button on the same subpage) from a different page (the Room Setup page vs the Main page), it works OK. If you control the volume directly on the AES, it works OK. --- In Crestron@..., trayschaeffer <trayschaeffer@...> wrote:
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
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Try sampling the analog going *back* to the panel. This has solved runaway volume issues several times for me. Here is one way to do that: In the simpl program, take the analog feedback signal and run it to a Serial one shot. Also connect that same analog to the input side of Analog Sample symbol. Connect Serial one shot output to trig of an OSC with hi/lo times of about a tenth of a second. OSC out is the enable for analog sample symbol. Sample out is now the feedback for the touch panel. Tray Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note?, an AT&T LTE smartphoneLincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote: What type of panel & what communication method (Infinet EX, WiFi, Cresnet, Wired Ethernet)? It sounds like intermittent communication between the panel and the processor, so that the processor sees the "press" but the receipt/processing of the "release" is delayed. Historically, panels have only sent a "Press" (Low-to-High) and "Release" (High-to-low) signal to the processor (e.g. "Button 301 Is Pressed", "Button 301 is Released" this lead to some "fun", especially on WiFi, where if the panel got out of range a ramp would continue until it hit the limit. Newer panels cope with this by sending the press periodically as long as the button is held and the gateway knows if it doesn't see the press within that period of time it should do the "release" itself -- but this doesn't solve the problem of "overshooting", it just keeps you from overshooting so far that you blow up gear [in theory] Lincoln -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of xylantech Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:03 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Strange subpage / join number problem I have a project that is using an AV2, an AES, iServer, V24/DGE2 and a ton of lighting stuff. The initial program was written in SB (never again), but due to a huge number of problems SB generated, I had to repair it in SIMPL. I've got everything working except for one vexing issue. The system has 6 audio zones on the AES. On one of the zones (Family Room) the volume controls act weirdly. If you try to lower the volume even slightly, it will ramp down to about 35%, then suddenly drop to zero. When you try to turn it back up, it will ramp back up to about 35% by itself. If you try to increase the volume again, it will jump up to about 75%. The startup volume level is set to 45%, so it's not recalling that. All the various rooms use the same volume buttons (on the same Volume subpage), and they all use the same inputs on the same Adagio module in SIMPL. Just to confuse things a bit more, if you go to the Room Setup page (which has the same Volume Subpage on it), the same volume buttons work normally in the Family Room. Any ideas? How is this even possible? ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Strange subpage / join number problem
What type of panel & what communication method (Infinet EX, WiFi, Cresnet, Wired Ethernet)?
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It sounds like intermittent communication between the panel and the processor, so that the processor sees the "press" but the receipt/processing of the "release" is delayed. Historically, panels have only sent a "Press" (Low-to-High) and "Release" (High-to-low) signal to the processor (e.g. "Button 301 Is Pressed", "Button 301 is Released" this lead to some "fun", especially on WiFi, where if the panel got out of range a ramp would continue until it hit the limit. Newer panels cope with this by sending the press periodically as long as the button is held and the gateway knows if it doesn't see the press within that period of time it should do the "release" itself -- but this doesn't solve the problem of "overshooting", it just keeps you from overshooting so far that you blow up gear [in theory] Lincoln -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of xylantech Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:03 PM To: Crestron@... Subject: [Crestron] Strange subpage / join number problem I have a project that is using an AV2, an AES, iServer, V24/DGE2 and a ton of lighting stuff. The initial program was written in SB (never again), but due to a huge number of problems SB generated, I had to repair it in SIMPL. I've got everything working except for one vexing issue. The system has 6 audio zones on the AES. On one of the zones (Family Room) the volume controls act weirdly. If you try to lower the volume even slightly, it will ramp down to about 35%, then suddenly drop to zero. When you try to turn it back up, it will ramp back up to about 35% by itself. If you try to increase the volume again, it will jump up to about 75%. The startup volume level is set to 45%, so it's not recalling that. All the various rooms use the same volume buttons (on the same Volume subpage), and they all use the same inputs on the same Adagio module in SIMPL. Just to confuse things a bit more, if you go to the Room Setup page (which has the same Volume Subpage on it), the same volume buttons work normally in the Family Room. Any ideas? How is this even possible? ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Strange subpage / join number problem
I have a project that is using an AV2, an AES, iServer, V24/DGE2 and a ton of lighting stuff. The initial program was written in SB (never again), but due to a huge number of problems SB generated, I had to repair it in SIMPL.
I've got everything working except for one vexing issue. The system has 6 audio zones on the AES. On one of the zones (Family Room) the volume controls act weirdly. If you try to lower the volume even slightly, it will ramp down to about 35%, then suddenly drop to zero. When you try to turn it back up, it will ramp back up to about 35% by itself. If you try to increase the volume again, it will jump up to about 75%. The startup volume level is set to 45%, so it's not recalling that. All the various rooms use the same volume buttons (on the same Volume subpage), and they all use the same inputs on the same Adagio module in SIMPL. Just to confuse things a bit more, if you go to the Room Setup page (which has the same Volume Subpage on it), the same volume buttons work normally in the Family Room. Any ideas? How is this even possible? |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
3-Series does HTTPS without a problem, right?
RIGHT?!? On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM, kabza <kabzaa@...> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
kabza
Thanks fo reply.
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Maybe google calendar is too much complex, to design what i need. I need to make scheduler that works every monday, first and third week in the month, and must be editable. So, maybe you guys have some simple solution? Regards From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Lincoln King-Cliby Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 8:51 PM To: 'Crestron@...' Subject: RE: [Crestron] Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler Yeah, the problem with that -- without a PC playing man in the middle -- is the ... If you have an Exchange (or Lotu sNotes or...) server at your disposal you can use FusionRV but that's probably a bigger investment than you want if you're only doing one room. -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of Chris Niles Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:25 PM To: Crestron-yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler If you just wanted to parse out information, you can always scrape the HTML view: [emailadddress]%40gmail.com<https: //www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=[emailadddress]%40gmail.com&ctz=America/ Chicago> or RSS/XML [emailaddress]%40gmail.com/public/basi c On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Chip <cfm@... <mailto:cfm%40vca.com> > wrote: **"kabza" <kabzaa@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
Kool-Aid Drinker
Google has .NET code examples -- it shouldn't be too horrible to port
to S#. Assuming S# ever gets released. And assuming it doesn't end up as crippled and broken as S+. On Sun, 19 May 2013 14:51:10 -0400, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote: Yeah, the problem with that -- without a PC playing man in the middle -- is the ... |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
Yeah, the problem with that -- without a PC playing man in the middle -- is the ...
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If you have an Exchange (or Lotu sNotes or...) server at your disposal you can use FusionRV but that's probably a bigger investment than you want if you're only doing one room. -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider -----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chris Niles Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 2:25 PM To: Crestron-yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [Crestron] Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler If you just wanted to parse out information, you can always scrape the HTML view: [emailadddress]%40gmail.com<[emailadddress]%40gmail.com&ctz=America/Chicago> or RSS/XML [emailaddress]%40gmail.com/public/basic On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote: ** [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers. A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area. Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Crestron + calendar scheduler
If you just wanted to parse out information, you can always scrape the HTML
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view: [emailadddress]%40gmail.com<[emailadddress]%40gmail.com&ctz=America/Chicago> or RSS/XML [emailaddress]%40gmail.com/public/basic On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:
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