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Does anybody know the required equipment to interface a leviton
lighting system to my clients crestron units?

I assume there is the equivelient to the lutron Grafic eye for
leviton?

Or at least a relay box.

Maybe you could think about using more crosspoint connections, think
about the destinations as equipment crosspoints rather than the
sources themselves.

When you connect your TP to the destinations, the source selections
as 21 presses to an 'after the crosspoint' init / equate scenario
would do all your routing for you rather than a bunch of steppers.
Maybe more work up front, but adding another display or source would
be rather easy compared to your other alternative.



wrote:

Eeek! (and you're welcome ;) )

My advice would be to try to find a way to reduce the source

selections to an analog value or values -- I don't know enough about
your architecture to select a specific method, and plus a guy has to
keep some tricks up his sleeve. Use the analog(s) to deal with the
signal routing [e.g. analog into ATOS to build the routing string for
each matrix output] and group sources by input types (e.g. VGA
sources, Composite sources, etc) and at most you're dealing with a
handful of steppers

e.g Select PC1:
1) Initialize analog(s) for matrix(ies) and and send serial routing

command based on the new analog value

2) Goes into OR for any PC source which kicks off Stepper for "any

VGA input"

There are a bunch of ways to deal with this, some (my personal

favorites) can do input selection, room power, and matrix routing
kicking everything off with a single analog (which makes room
combining REALLY easy ;) )

Lincoln

________________________________________
From: Crestron@... [Crestron@...] On Behalf

Of jschaud [jschaud@...]

Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:45 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Lots of sources-- would like some advice

Been playing around on paper with a system that I have to work on
soon. Its going to be 21 video sources that will be routable to any

of

8 tvs. There are a few different matrix switchers involved, fyi. I

am

pretty sure that I am going to need 168 steppers to move each

switcher

to the right position. I am just confused on the best way to trigger
each stepper.

I am going to use two different crosspoints--1 for the room and 1

for

the actual source (Thank you very much LKC, your advice is

appreciated

more than you would believe) Should I just interlock the rooms and

the

sources and use buffers to hit the correct stepper? It kind of feels
like a waste to go through that since I am already going to be using
crosspoints. Would analog equates using the equipment ID#s make any

sense?

If I came out of the room analog equate into the enable line of 8
buffers, I could then put the 21 different sources into each of the
buffers using the analog equate outputs for the sources. So in

total,

I am looking at

2 crosspoints --->
2 analog equates --->
8 buffers of 21 inputs --->
168 steppers




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So it is definitely confirmed that adding motion sensors to the
system will lock it up?
The INITIALIZE input on the keypad emulation module does a good job
of refreshing the two line text and feedback.
I have been working with Crestron for the past few weeks to get this
resolved. 3 or 4 separate sites have an FBP system running all with
the same symptoms and I'm being thrown on wild goose chases checking
wires, loading demo programs, and burning bridges with my alarm
integrators.
I should be getting an Ademco test unit in my office here to play
around with. I am looking forward to seeing what happens.
Thanks for the heads up. Is it time to move on from Ademco?

--- In Crestron@..., "jrc.audiovideo" <jamesclaflin@...>
wrote:

I've fucking had it with this 128FBP. I just spent all weekend

just

trying to get reliable keyypad emulation feedback to no avail. The
panel does work great with no motions or door contacts hooked up to
it (you can have plenty of zones programmed). Once the
panel/processor starts to chatter with motions going on/off it
starts to hang. For example if I walk around the house with my
laptop (running xpanel) and trigger motions and door contacts,
within 2 or 3 times the feedback on the kepad eventually just stays
on one state (Fault 004 Back Door) It then takes a couple of other
motions to go on/off and eventually the module updates and all is
well for the next 3 or 4 times. I'm running the newest v3.0
crestron module with a pro2. It does say in the module.pdf that
there is a refresh command you can send to update the 2 lines of
text on the panel, however I cannot find that in the argument
definition. All I see is Initialize or Poll. I've already set the
panel to factory defaults 3 times. The panel does arm and disarm
instantly with no motions or contacts hooked up to it. Once

motions

and contacts are hooked up that is when things become unreliable.
I'm just desparate to find an ultra reliabe alarm panel to work
with. All I'm looking for is instant keypad emulation
control/feedback. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know.

Regards,

Jim

Eeek! (and you're welcome ;) )

My advice would be to try to find a way to reduce the source selections to an analog value or values -- I don't know enough about your architecture to select a specific method, and plus a guy has to keep some tricks up his sleeve. Use the analog(s) to deal with the signal routing [e.g. analog into ATOS to build the routing string for each matrix output] and group sources by input types (e.g. VGA sources, Composite sources, etc) and at most you're dealing with a handful of steppers

e.g Select PC1:
1) Initialize analog(s) for matrix(ies) and and send serial routing command based on the new analog value
2) Goes into OR for any PC source which kicks off Stepper for "any VGA input"

There are a bunch of ways to deal with this, some (my personal favorites) can do input selection, room power, and matrix routing kicking everything off with a single analog (which makes room combining REALLY easy ;) )

Lincoln

________________________________________
From: Crestron@... [Crestron@...] On Behalf Of jschaud [jschaud@...]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 3:45 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Lots of sources-- would like some advice

Been playing around on paper with a system that I have to work on
soon. Its going to be 21 video sources that will be routable to any of
8 tvs. There are a few different matrix switchers involved, fyi. I am
pretty sure that I am going to need 168 steppers to move each switcher
to the right position. I am just confused on the best way to trigger
each stepper.

I am going to use two different crosspoints--1 for the room and 1 for
the actual source (Thank you very much LKC, your advice is appreciated
more than you would believe) Should I just interlock the rooms and the
sources and use buffers to hit the correct stepper? It kind of feels
like a waste to go through that since I am already going to be using
crosspoints. Would analog equates using the equipment ID#s make any sense?

If I came out of the room analog equate into the enable line of 8
buffers, I could then put the 21 different sources into each of the
buffers using the analog equate outputs for the sources. So in total,
I am looking at

2 crosspoints --->
2 analog equates --->
8 buffers of 21 inputs --->
168 steppers




------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

The batteries don't work simultaneously, they work one after the other. Meaning when the first battery is exhausted (battery gauge at half), it goes to the second one (battery gauge empty). If the internal is always dead, your battery meter will only show half full. Aside from that all I know is that my kids toys tell me not to mix old and new batteries :)

Joe

--- In Crestron@..., "Mike Janis" <psirxus@...> wrote:

I haven't had any problems with any of the CEN-RGBHV units. Great
build quality (Thanks Kramer) and dead-simple programming.

If you choose to use the INIT method of routing, remember that you
must hold "Video Enter" and "Audio Enter" under Slot 1 high.

Have you noticed any delay in your video switching? Meaning when you
init the value (and have AV enter held high) that it still takes a
moment (enough time for the display to 'go blue') before the new route
is made?

I have a client who has TPMC 8Xs with worn out internal batteries. I am under the impression that the external battery pack has more juice than the internal one. Can I just add the externals and leave the worn out internals, or does the internal need to be replaced first?

Thanks, Heath

I haven't had any problems with any of the CEN-RGBHV units. Great
build quality (Thanks Kramer) and dead-simple programming.

If you choose to use the INIT method of routing, remember that you
must hold "Video Enter" and "Audio Enter" under Slot 1 high.

Don't let all the options overwhelm you. If you're just trying to
route signals, it's really straightforward. With Extron, you're used
to triggering a string like I*O! to route input "I" to output "O" with
both audio and video.

With the CEN-RGBHV, instead of triggering strings, you're using
INITs to generate analogs. If you have digital signal that goes high
to represent "I want to route input 3 to output 5", attach that signal
to an INIT, which in turn feeds the output 5 analog signal on the
router's symbol. Make that signal on the INIT set the analog value to
3, and you're done. You can either attach that analog signal to both
V and A inputs on the symbol, or I believe there's a digital input you
can latch high that will force audio to follow video.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "Andy Maxey" <andy@...> wrote:

I'm used to Extron, Autopatch and Sierra Video and was a little

surprised

when I saw the available options. An example would help get it clear

in my

mind what's going on.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On

Behalf

Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:28 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CEN-RGBHV8X8



--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>

, "Andy

Maxey" <andy@> wrote:

Is anyone aware of an example program for any of the Crestron CEN-

RGBHV

switchers? I wasn't able to find one on Crestron's website.



Andy

These work exactly like any type of Crestron device. Use analogs to
select the input for a specified output. Are you having specific
trouble that we could help with?

Read the help file for examples. You'd probably be most comfortable
using the Control$ serial input on Slot01, then you can just pretend
it's a serial switcher with a new protocol.

--
Jeremy Weatherford

I'm used to Extron, Autopatch and Sierra Video and was a little surprised
when I saw the available options. An example would help get it clear in my
mind what's going on.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Matt
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 11:28 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: CEN-RGBHV8X8



--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , "Andy
Maxey" <andy@...> wrote:

Is anyone aware of an example program for any of the Crestron CEN-

RGBHV

switchers? I wasn't able to find one on Crestron's website.



Andy

These work exactly like any type of Crestron device. Use analogs to
select the input for a specified output. Are you having specific
trouble that we could help with?

CADDX polls things in a tight loop based on the number of zones you
told the module.

Might have to insert a short delay somewhere to cut back on the endless
flow of traffic.




--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

I recently pulled a CEN-COM off my "shelf-o-random-Crestron stuff" to

use for with the serial interface for my alarm panel (with the eventual
idea being to put it on its own processor)

Have you tried loading the firmware onto a compact flash card, and then doing the update locally?

Chris

chuckd73026 wrote:

Hey guys, I have a TPMC17CH that is booting into 1024 x 768
resolution, instead of 1280 x 768 like it's supposed to. I've tried to
reload the firmware, but it won't take it (simply errors out).

In Setup, the display resolution doesn't show up like on a normal panel.

Is there some weird hidden file that got reset in the unit? The panel
sure isn't very usable when it's only displaying about 2/3 of the width.

Hopefully somebody has seen this before.

Thanks in advance,

Chuck

Been playing around on paper with a system that I have to work on
soon. Its going to be 21 video sources that will be routable to any of
8 tvs. There are a few different matrix switchers involved, fyi. I am
pretty sure that I am going to need 168 steppers to move each switcher
to the right position. I am just confused on the best way to trigger
each stepper.

I am going to use two different crosspoints--1 for the room and 1 for
the actual source (Thank you very much LKC, your advice is appreciated
more than you would believe) Should I just interlock the rooms and the
sources and use buffers to hit the correct stepper? It kind of feels
like a waste to go through that since I am already going to be using
crosspoints. Would analog equates using the equipment ID#s make any sense?

If I came out of the room analog equate into the enable line of 8
buffers, I could then put the 21 different sources into each of the
buffers using the analog equate outputs for the sources. So in total,
I am looking at

2 crosspoints --->
2 analog equates --->
8 buffers of 21 inputs --->
168 steppers

1) Tape it to the switch???
2) With the unit on a switch, unless there is a lot of broadcast traffic, it should not be seeing much traffic. If it is broadcast traffic, maybe disabling it on the port. I do not know enough about the protocol but does Crestron use broadcast to the devices?



Chris

I know sooner or later I'm going to go searching for it, and where else would I put it? At least I didn't include the IP address and password for the switch :D

Anyway to the original question... Forcing the duplex didn't seem to help. I added a Ethernet offline manager with the intent of tickling the update request digital as needed, but I noticed since adding it (at least last night) every time the CEN-COM dropped off line it popped right back.

I'm trying to avoid adding another router to my network, but Foo's suggestion may be the last option before I finally throw the thing across the room and get a QM-RMC or DIN-AP2 for it.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Applications Engineer
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440-729-4640 x1107 F: 440-729-0884 I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer

At the risk of sounding stupid, it would seem like a simple truth
table would take care of this. When the string is received, both will
go high (or low) on the same wave.

Zone 1 = 'cable' H and 'zone 2 cable' low
Zone 2 is fine right out of the SIO. If you want it to go high on the
same wave, just put it in the truth table as 'zone 2 cable' h with X
for 'cable'

or you could detect the &#92;r and use it to clear a SR. Then detect
the 'Zone 2 ' and set the SR. Then detect the cable and use the SR's
output to route the pulse. The pulse will be one save long because
the incoming &#92;r will clear the 'cable' output. I might do this if
there were a lot of Zone 2 commands and use two buffers (one each on
the output of the SR) to send the commands where you want them.

I apologize if I'm missing something tricky.



--- In Crestron@..., "Chip Moody" <cfm@...> wrote:

An incoming "Zone2-Cable&#92;r" will trigger BOTH "Cable&#92;r" and
"Zone2-Cable&#92;r" parameters. "Cable&#92;r" is still a subset of the
incoming string and a valid match...

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "lunarteq" <lunartech@> wrote:

Assuming you mean strings coming into the SIO, have you tried

removing

spaces in the string and/or replace them with other characters

i.e.

"Cable&#92;r" & "Zone2-Cable&#92;r"... this effectively makes the second
string one word so the other parameter (or other SIO) cant match

it.

ChipG

--- In Crestron@..., "slip.cougan" <slip.cougan@>

wrote:

Sorry, these are returned strings from the device, I was

simulating

the strings in debugger.

All my modules use analogs for source selects (I don't do

digitals

anymore :) )

g

--- In Crestron@..., "Matt" <mjrtoo@> wrote:

--- In Crestron@..., "slip.cougan" <slip.cougan@>
wrote:

Take the following senario:
Main zone SIO contains the parameter: Cable&#92;x0D
Secondary SIO zone contains the parameter: Zone 2 Cable&#92;x0D

Now of course both these events will fire if I send: Zone 2

Cable&#92;x0D

This is the expected behaviour from a serial I/O.

Is there a way to make the SIO more choosy? So if I send

Zone 2

Cable&#92;x0D it does not trip the main zone event.

Thanks

gary

What's the concept of using the SIO? Are you using serial

strings

into the SIO to switch sources from the outputs? Maybe look

at

using

analog init's instead?

--- In Crestron@..., "Andy Maxey" <andy@...> wrote:

Is anyone aware of an example program for any of the Crestron CEN-

RGBHV

switchers? I wasn't able to find one on Crestron's website.



Andy

These work exactly like any type of Crestron device. Use analogs to
select the input for a specified output. Are you having specific
trouble that we could help with?

Is anyone aware of an example program for any of the Crestron CEN-RGBHV
switchers? I wasn't able to find one on Crestron's website.



Andy