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Crestron Home

 

Has anyone successfully setup a Crestron Home system with NAX and Sonos on the network? Running into issues, seemingly revolving around multicast, with NAX and Sonos being on the same Network/VLAN.


Re: Module Poly G7500

 

Hello, is it possible to have a copy of the poly G7500 module you used.....Thanks in advance


Re: Construct Headaches

 

I played with Construct for about an hour.? My main takeaway was "time to knock the dust off my HTML/CSS skills" and went down that avenue instead, although Crestron has issues there as well (specifically with their default template).? ??
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? It's like Studio if tried to be a WYSIWYG HTML editor.? Has that same half baked feeling as Studio.


Re: HZ-THStat

 

I love this group!!!

BTW, I have already programmed/tested the User interface and that is the only part that I'm not concerned about...(Who knew!!)...
Though, As with every updated generation of Crestron devices, it would be nice if they kept to same/similar SMW interface and just added what they needed...


Re: Just add power module errors

 

There's some misinformation there. The long integer to integer warning is a genuine warning that you may be losing data due to downcasting from 32 to 16 bits. Whilst it's never normallly an "issue" persay, it can be rectified by casting the assignment. Casting in Simpl+ is done by surrounding the long with brackets, for example:


LONG_INTEGER myLongInt;
INTEGER myNormalInt;

myNormalInt = (myLongInt);

The #SYMBOL error is telling you that the 2 AVSwitch modules are symbol named as V3_04. #SYMBOL names should be unique to the file version.


Re: HZ-THStat

 

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 03:08 PM, XSDS wrote:
1. Who designed these things?? clearly no one who has installed them or had to take one off its base to service it!!!
Seriously!! We were already planning to use retro back-boxes but I can't imagine mounting these with sheet-rock anchors-The first time an HVAC guy tries to remove it on a Saturday when he's trouble-shooting a No-Heat call from the client he would rip out half the wall!!!? I'm mean, is Crestron really concerned that a 'press-fit' mounting like the old CHV units would not hold this thing on??
NOTE: Though I found no info in the manuals (Ha!) and tech support had no idea as to the *Best Practice* for removing one after it is LOCKED onto its sub-base, we did figure out that if you put a tweeker at a 45 degree angle into the slots at the bottom right corner, you can use this to leverage on the back plate to pull that corner of the stat off its detent. then the tweeker can be used to pop off another detent and the unit comes off...Like I said, the uninitiated will be damaging something I'm sure....
Could not agree more.? Please have the engineer who did the industrial design retrofit 10 of these in a project and wire 5 of them with a 2 stage heat, 2 stage cool, with floor warming and a remote temp sensor and then ask him if he thinks he designed an installer friendly piece of hardware.

--Mounting options--
FAIL - base plate mounting holes too close to the margin of the drywall opening
Self drilling drywall anchors
Mollys
Plastic anchors
Toggles

MAYBE
Retro ring with wings - stat slightly proud of the wall depending on the make of the ring
Retro Carlon box with wings - have to "dado" the drywall paper and some plaster to get the stat to sit flush on the wall

WORKS
SG LV ring mounted horizontally
SG 4-square plaster ring mounted horizontally
Carlon SC100A (my favorite) -?

Jim Felderman

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider


Re: HZ-THStat

 

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 03:08 PM, XSDS wrote:
Bonus/Easter Egg:
On the same project we have (8) HR-310s... Two of them are being advance replaced OOTB
One would *crash* whenever I tried to put it in acquire mode...
The crashing while trying to acquire I have seen in the field and in my case it was always due to the remote shipping with old FW.? I updated the FW to release and that issue went away.? Also for those who missed it in the release notes I should mention that you can change the RFID on an acquired 310 via the numpad and top hard buttons mapped to A-F.? Nice add.

Jim Felderman

ControlWorks Consulting, LLC

Crestron Services Provider


Re: Concord 4 Control

 

Yes, you can set the alarm via RS232, I do it every night. There is a keypad simulator, it works just like the panel keypad.


Re: HZ-THStat

Michael S Moran
 

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With respect to mounting and future service needs/requirements, we typically utilize a mud ring or back box, horizontally

Deployed/mounted.?

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As an alternate approach, use an auger screw-type fixing anchor.? These devils have a far greater resistance

from being pulled out of drywall that is in relatively good condition¡­not damp or wet.?

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Respectfully,

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Michael? S. Moran

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of XSDS
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 3:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] HZ-THStat

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On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 02:56 PM, ckangis wrote:

So as not to keep my ardent fans waiting, I thought that rather than wait until the end, I'd post individual updates...:)

Today I started to *bench* the (7) units to get them ready - Wifi connect, FW, IP-ID, IP address...? Found two items:

1. Who designed these things?? clearly no one who has installed them or had to take one off its base to service it!!!
Seriously!! We were already planning to use retro back-boxes but I can't imagine mounting these with sheet-rock anchors-The first time an HVAC guy tries to remove it on a Saturday when he's trouble-shooting a No-Heat call from the client he would rip out half the wall!!!? I'm mean, is Crestron really concerned that a 'press-fit' mounting like the old CHV units would not hold this thing on??
NOTE: Though I found no info in the manuals (Ha!) and tech support had no idea as to the *Best Practice* for removing one after it is LOCKED onto its sub-base, we did figure out that if you put a tweeker at a 45 degree angle into the slots at the bottom right corner, you can use this to leverage on the back plate to pull that corner of the stat off its detent. then the tweeker can be used to pop off another detent and the unit comes off...Like I said, the uninitiated will be damaging something I'm sure....

2. Wifi Connection...
Yes, I set up a dedicated 2.4g SSID for the stats (See TStat website/Specs/Communications).? Four of the Stats connected and were able to be set up with reasonable ease apart from the really long reboot and file transfer times.
The other three stats would never see their SSID though they would routinely see the client's main and guess SSIDs and of course the ad-hoc SSID from the crappy HP ENVY printer sitting next to me - So I guess I could get the TStats to print...:)
Support and I tried a bunch of things including setting our special SSID to both 2.4 and 5g like the client SSIDs and doing Factory Resets but they would not see this SSID.
Result: Crestron is advance replacing 3 of 7 TStats...?? ?We'll see on the next round...

Bonus/Easter Egg:
On the same project we have (8) HR-310s... Two of them are being advance replaced OOTB
One would *crash* whenever I tried to put it in acquire mode...
And the other one was physically missing 2 of the 6 battery terminals...YES PHYICALLY MISSING 2 OF THE 6 BATTERY TERMINALS....WTbleep!!

Hope you all enjoyed this first message!? Love you all...:)


?Gonna be a lot longer list than this shortly!? Wait till you get to the programming part.


Re: Just add power module errors

 

Make that email to support @ ? or go to and open a ticket.

Ed Qualls?
Just Add Power?


Re: Just add power module errors

 

The "long integer to long integer" prompt is a common error message we have seen the last?few years. We believe it is a file dependency issue related to how users migrate our Crestron module files into their specific projects (splitting necessary files across multiple folders, etc.). This message causes no operational issues, and has thus not been explored further through Janus. We recommend testing with global and J+P specific Crestron module resources hosted locally (not Dropbox) within the same folder.

The programmer also seems to have old and new versions of the module that are interacting in his project folder (3.1.5 supersedes?3.1.4). He may want to archive his legacy module resources to prevent conflict.?

If the programmer reaches out to support@... we can provide a module unlock code to allow the user to make any desired edits! Alternatively, we can collect logs and help debug.

Ed Qualls?
Just Add Power?


Re: HZ-THStat

 

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 02:56 PM, ckangis wrote:
So as not to keep my ardent fans waiting, I thought that rather than wait until the end, I'd post individual updates...:)

Today I started to *bench* the (7) units to get them ready - Wifi connect, FW, IP-ID, IP address...? Found two items:

1. Who designed these things?? clearly no one who has installed them or had to take one off its base to service it!!!
Seriously!! We were already planning to use retro back-boxes but I can't imagine mounting these with sheet-rock anchors-The first time an HVAC guy tries to remove it on a Saturday when he's trouble-shooting a No-Heat call from the client he would rip out half the wall!!!? I'm mean, is Crestron really concerned that a 'press-fit' mounting like the old CHV units would not hold this thing on??
NOTE: Though I found no info in the manuals (Ha!) and tech support had no idea as to the *Best Practice* for removing one after it is LOCKED onto its sub-base, we did figure out that if you put a tweeker at a 45 degree angle into the slots at the bottom right corner, you can use this to leverage on the back plate to pull that corner of the stat off its detent. then the tweeker can be used to pop off another detent and the unit comes off...Like I said, the uninitiated will be damaging something I'm sure....

2. Wifi Connection...
Yes, I set up a dedicated 2.4g SSID for the stats (See TStat website/Specs/Communications).? Four of the Stats connected and were able to be set up with reasonable ease apart from the really long reboot and file transfer times.
The other three stats would never see their SSID though they would routinely see the client's main and guess SSIDs and of course the ad-hoc SSID from the crappy HP ENVY printer sitting next to me - So I guess I could get the TStats to print...:)
Support and I tried a bunch of things including setting our special SSID to both 2.4 and 5g like the client SSIDs and doing Factory Resets but they would not see this SSID.
Result: Crestron is advance replacing 3 of 7 TStats...?? ?We'll see on the next round...

Bonus/Easter Egg:
On the same project we have (8) HR-310s... Two of them are being advance replaced OOTB
One would *crash* whenever I tried to put it in acquire mode...
And the other one was physically missing 2 of the 6 battery terminals...YES PHYICALLY MISSING 2 OF THE 6 BATTERY TERMINALS....WTbleep!!

Hope you all enjoyed this first message!? Love you all...:)

?Gonna be a lot longer list than this shortly!? Wait till you get to the programming part.


Re: HZ-THStat

 

So as not to keep my ardent fans waiting, I thought that rather than wait until the end, I'd post individual updates...:)

Today I started to *bench* the (7) units to get them ready - Wifi connect, FW, IP-ID, IP address...? Found two items:

1. Who designed these things?? clearly no one who has installed them or had to take one off its base to service it!!!
Seriously!! We were already planning to use retro back-boxes but I can't imagine mounting these with sheet-rock anchors-The first time an HVAC guy tries to remove it on a Saturday when he's trouble-shooting a No-Heat call from the client he would rip out half the wall!!!? I'm mean, is Crestron really concerned that a 'press-fit' mounting like the old CHV units would not hold this thing on??
NOTE: Though I found no info in the manuals (Ha!) and tech support had no idea as to the *Best Practice* for removing one after it is LOCKED onto its sub-base, we did figure out that if you put a tweeker at a 45 degree angle into the slots at the bottom right corner, you can use this to leverage on the back plate to pull that corner of the stat off its detent. then the tweeker can be used to pop off another detent and the unit comes off...Like I said, the uninitiated will be damaging something I'm sure....

2. Wifi Connection...
Yes, I set up a dedicated 2.4g SSID for the stats (See TStat website/Specs/Communications).? Four of the Stats connected and were able to be set up with reasonable ease apart from the really long reboot and file transfer times.
The other three stats would never see their SSID though they would routinely see the client's main and guess SSIDs and of course the ad-hoc SSID from the crappy HP ENVY printer sitting next to me - So I guess I could get the TStats to print...:)
Support and I tried a bunch of things including setting our special SSID to both 2.4 and 5g like the client SSIDs and doing Factory Resets but they would not see this SSID.
Result: Crestron is advance replacing 3 of 7 TStats...?? ?We'll see on the next round...

Bonus/Easter Egg:
On the same project we have (8) HR-310s... Two of them are being advance replaced OOTB
One would *crash* whenever I tried to put it in acquire mode...
And the other one was physically missing 2 of the 6 battery terminals...YES PHYICALLY MISSING 2 OF THE 6 BATTERY TERMINALS....WTbleep!!

Hope you all enjoyed this first message!? Love you all...:)


Re: Construct Headaches

 

I just timed it, my build speeds are 1 min 16 seconds for the first build after starting Construct. After that it's around 35 seconds for each build. I'm using it on a iMac that's running Boot Camp with Windows 11.


Re: Construct Headaches

 

There's a Toolbar Option to view the built code.

It generates HTML (sample):

<ch5-background scale="stretch" refreshrate="600" transitioneffect="ease" transitionduration="1s" assetid="0" id="ifp3" componentName="Main Pg Bkgnd" ccid_linkSendReceive="True" devicesVisited="[&quot;TST-1080 (Landscape), TSW-770&quot;]" backgroundcolor="#8e8e8e" imgbackgroundcolor="transparent">
</ch5-background>
<ch5-tab-button numberofitems="6" useContractForCustomStyle="false" useContractForCustomClass="false" orientation="horizontal" previewstate="buttonnormal" indexid="idx" buttonhalignlabel="center" buttonvalignlabel="middle" buttoniconposition="first" buttonshape="rectangle" buttontype="default" pd-

and CSS (sample):

* {
? box-sizing: border-box;
}
body {
? margin: 0;
}
@media (orientation: landscape){
? #iuy5g .ch5-button--size-regular .cb-btn{
? ? width:84px;
? ? height:42px;
? }
? #iuy5g .ch5-button--default .ch5-button--label{
? ? font-family:Roboto;
? ? color:rgb(255, 255, 255);
? ? font-size:14px;
? ? font-weight:400;
? }
? #iuy5g .ch5-button--default{
? ? border:1px solid rgb(0, 0, 0);
? ? color:rgb(255, 255, 255);
? ? background-color:rgb(110, 235, 0);


Re: Construct Headaches

 

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Does it build the backend as well or just the ui?

On Dec 6, 2023, at 5:46?PM, BruteForceIsUnderRated <crestronpro@...> wrote:

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A week or so ago, I tried a small project on Construct and eventually switched over to Smart Graphics.

I had the same type of Build errors. I also had older testing files that suddenly wouldn't build properly.? Updating to the current release corrected the build issue.

The layer manager is really bad about the DIV and Graphics objects jumping?to the top layer when switching tabs. Switching to another tab and back again usually restored the proper layers but not always.

After building and loading to a panel, there was an intermittent issue where a Widget (subpage) would show with nothing driving the join. Toggling the join would usually get it in sync but in one instance it was just sticky and I had to take the panel to setup?and back out and then it drew properly... I just couldn't risk having that issue in the field.

Running the ch5z file loaded as a webpage?had an issue where the background was showing a different color than the panel itself.

I imagine that most of these issues could be worked through, but with everything?bunching up for end of year completion, there was no extra time to allocate. On the other side of it, I have a project that I can use to test against future versions of Construct.

On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 12:26?PM Nathan Durfee <nathan@...> wrote:
I'll be honest. Your best bet would be to learn HTML, JavaScript, and then a javascript framework rather than learning and dealing with construct.


Re: Construct Headaches

 

Yeah, Formatted-Text does need improvement, as well as MultiLine Text on Buttons, and Button Modes would be nice....been using Serial Strings with Font Awesome and Contracts for each in the Normal/Press/Selected states as a workaround.

Getting used to the Contracts as well.

How are your Build speeds? And what computer platform do you use??


Re: Concord 4 Control

 

Thank you for your reply. The customer can control it via the Concord 4 panel, but I couldn't handle it via Crestron. Is it possible to set alarm via RS232. I know we can arrange an alarm via Relay, but I want to use RS232.


Just add power module errors

 
Edited

I don't know S+ well enough to fix this annoyance.? Has anyone fixed their modules to get rid of these errors?? Or could point me in the right direction to fix.
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NOTICE (202)??
? ? ? ? Number of inputs on symbol [JAP_AVSwitch_Luxul_3.1.5.umc : S-9 : JAP_AVSwitch_Favourite_Switching_v3_00.usp] needed adjustment
NOTICE (LGSPLS1803) , Line 202
? ? ? ? JAP_AVSwitch_Luxul_3.1.5.usp : Possible data loss: LONG_INTEGER to INTEGER assignment
NOTICE (320)??
? ? ? ? SIMPL+ files [JAP_AVSwitch_Luxul_3.1.4.usp] and [JAP_AVSwitch_Luxul_3.1.5.usp] both use the #SYMBOL directive to name the associated symbol as [JAP A/V Switch (Luxul) Code V3_04]. To ensure both symbols are in the Symbol Library, these symbols will show as their file names until the #SYMBOL directives are reconciled.
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Re: Concord 4 Control

 

correction for arming no delay

2 (stay) or 3 (away), Code if required, 4? ?

Not sure why you would arm no delay or silent mode for away.? Assuming that there are still people in the house.