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Re: Nest TStat Integration

 

CoolAutomation use to have the CoolMasterNet interfase, but also is no longer wirking.

In the home page this is what shows:

"NOTE: Google is in the process of migrating the "Works with Nest" program under the umbrella of Google Assistant, and as such is temporarily unavailable"


Re: Uploading CH5

 

Once again, thanks Neil! :-)

--- On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 4:24 PM, Neil wrote:

If Masters proved anything it's that Crestron's CH5 developers did not
understand the level their audience are at.
I spent some time working through CH5 and have managed to get a handle on it,
not using their old or new sample projects though.

It would seem that if they want this to take off they are going to have to put
some effort into training from the beginning or produce a VTPro like piece of
software that will generate the CH5 panel files.

Simpl is not going anywhere and looks like it's going to be supported well into
the future.
VTPro may well be another story, especially with the Flash sunset at the end of
this year...

There's some resources here, including some basic CH5 projects I've made that
may help others get a start with it;


Re: Uploading CH5

 

If Masters proved anything it's that Crestron's CH5 developers did not understand the level their audience are at.
I spent some time working through CH5 and have managed to get a handle on it, not using their old or new sample projects though.

It would seem that if they want this to take off they are going to have to put some effort into training from the beginning or produce a VTPro like piece of software that will generate the CH5 panel files.

Simpl is not going anywhere and looks like it's going to be supported well into the future.
VTPro may well be another story, especially with the Flash sunset at the end of this year...

There's some resources here, including some basic CH5 projects I've made that may help others get a start with it;


Re: Uploading CH5

 

This looks to me like they just don¡¯t want to develop their own tools anymore...
It's no secret, Crestron said it openly. I agree that the learning curve with these new tools is massive?but I also believe it is the right thing to do and it makes us better programmers. Also, SW and VTPro aren't going anywhere no need to panic really.


Re: Uploading CH5

 

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This looks to me like they just don¡¯t want to develop their own tools anymore...


On Jun 26, 2020, at 1:52 PM, Brian Erchenbrecher via groups.io <Brian.Erchenbrecher@...> wrote:

?Lincoln, I couldn't agree more. This is one of my biggest frustrations with Crestron, both from the standpoint of having worked in education in the past and because I didn't come into programming from a computer science background. I have worked my ass off to get where I am, and now to be on the receiving end of ¡°Here¡¯s this thing that we won¡¯t teach and likely won¡¯t provide support for¡± is extraordinarily frustrating. Forgive me, everyone, if I am projecting too much onto Crestron, but for me, a lot of their instruction seems to carry the attitude of "why don't you already know this?" In any event, there's a little reassurance in the fact that others seem to be in the same boat, and also that we have a great community of programmers who tend to support each other very well when True Blue doesn't. Thank you to all of you who go out of your way to offer help and guidance.


Re: Crestron with Somfy UAI+

 

I've only done one job with it, and that was 2 years ago. I haven't heard from that client since, so i'm under the assumption its still working. I'm doing a job now that has one shade controlled this way, so I'll watch it and see what happens.


Crestron with Somfy UAI+

 

Hello everyone,

At the end of the last year I did an integration between Crestron and Somfy with a UAI+ IP interfase, and in the very begining it was working fine, with a few issues, but I was the wiring mainly. After this was fixed still working OK. Now, my client call me and is not working at all. I check and effectively the conection was lost. I've tryed to restart the conection (digital parameter in the module), restart the UAI interfase, the program and nothing.

The group of modules of UAI+ are:
* Somfy UAI+ v1.1 Command Processor IP
* Somfy UAI+ v1.1 Endpoint Control


I realized theres a new version? of the module, the v1.2, I was using the v1.1 but in the comments of the revision history said: "added new Endpoint Component (Limited). No changes to this module".... so there are no change in the comuniaction module. I was thinking to make the change from v1.1 to v1.2 but probably the issue will continue.

The big question is, does any one have use this Somfy UAI+ interface via IP? and have you have experience any issue with it? or with any other issue?

Thank you.


Re: Uploading CH5

 

Lincoln, I couldn't agree more. This is one of my biggest frustrations with Crestron, both from the standpoint of having worked in education in the past and because I didn't come into programming from a computer science background. I have worked my ass off to get where I am, and now to be on the receiving end of ¡°Here¡¯s this thing that we won¡¯t teach and likely won¡¯t provide support for¡± is extraordinarily frustrating. Forgive me, everyone, if I am projecting too much onto Crestron, but for me, a lot of their instruction seems to carry the attitude of "why don't you already know this?" In any event, there's a little reassurance in the fact that others seem to be in the same boat, and also that we have a great community of programmers who tend to support each other very well when True Blue doesn't. Thank you to all of you who go out of your way to offer help and guidance.


Re: Uploading CH5

 

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And this is precisely the biggest issue with Crestron¡¯s approach on CH5 and S#. It¡¯s not a technical problem but a philosophical one.

The competitive set is talking their adopted languages (Lua, Python, etc.) and teaching them from (literally, in most cases) ¡°Hello World¡± ¡ª acknowledging that there are hundreds of ways to do something but if you¡¯re coming in fresh here is 1 way that definitely works in the ecosystem and if you have trouble you can get support _from us_ on it. Crestron, on the other hand is saying ¡°Here¡¯s this thing that we won¡¯t teach and likely won¡¯t provide support for¡± ¡ª which I am afraid long term means integrators with mid-tier or lower programmers are going to swing toward the competitive set where they can get training and support.

With HTML5 this is even worse than Lua or Python because HTML5 is more a collection of concepts than a single unified entity. Saying ¡°you need to know HTML5¡± is like telling me I need to know French ¡ª there are enough nuances/dialects (Qu¨¦b¨¦cois? Parisian? Legal? Formal? Informal?) ¡ª and the level of knowledge required is likewise not well specified (do I need to be able to speak Parisian French fluently, or do I just need to know how to ask where the bathroom is in Montreal?

I¡¯m not new to HTML or CSS (I remember reading ¡°Web Weaving¡± ¡ª in dead tree form on my middle school playground in 1995...not where CSS came in but I definitely got schooled on it reverse engineering a website that formed the basis of my wedding RSVP site)...but I know there¡¯s a ton more that are not clearly defined dependencies. The Showcase app could be useful except it does things differently than the panel (e.g. text entry field has a blue border in the showcase app, red border ?on the panel, nothing seems to be explicitly setting it in ether and I ran out of time trying to figure out the cypher I needed to add to the CSS before I had to move on to service real clients.

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From: [email protected] on behalf of nathan@...
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 10:43 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [crestron] Uploading CH5
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Crestron knows that the HTML world is large and just like programming back ends, can be done many ways to achieve the same results. Crestron is making a simpler example program because they did realize that for a lot of programmers, their first example was overwhelming. The more you mess with it, the easier it is to understand how it works in their panels.?

The only requirement to make it work on their TSW-x60 panels is having a reference or import of CrComLib, the rest is up to you on how you want to do your logic or make it work.

Crestron will ONLY teach you how to use their CH5 Components, which are made for people who dont understand HTML at all in order to make development quick and easy. Their component work similiar to VTPro-E. Designed to take a signal and react on it and all the main logic for the panel is housed in the crestron processor.


Re: Uploading CH5

 

Crestron knows that the HTML world is large and just like programming back ends, can be done many ways to achieve the same results. Crestron is making a simpler example program because they did realize that for a lot of programmers, their first example was overwhelming. The more you mess with it, the easier it is to understand how it works in their panels.?

The only requirement to make it work on their TSW-x60 panels is having a reference or import of CrComLib, the rest is up to you on how you want to do your logic or make it work.

Crestron will ONLY teach you how to use their CH5 Components, which are made for people who dont understand HTML at all in order to make development quick and easy. Their component work similiar to VTPro-E. Designed to take a signal and react on it and all the main logic for the panel is housed in the crestron processor.


Re: Uploading CH5

 

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After watching the HTML5 Webinar last night from Crestron, the concept of using standard web development tools to generate our project is very appealing.? Possibly even using something like WordPress which is relatively easy to learn which I have be dabbling with for the last few months.? But what I have come to realize is the whole web stuff is very complex indeed. So many different protocols and techniques? such as html, css, javascript, AJAX, Comet, WebSockets, Node JS, JQuery, and so forth it is a little overwhelming.

But what was lacking in that Webinar was the details.? I was hoping to see just a quick tutorial on how to run the example program.? You know, a "Hello World" type of program to get you started.? I plan to try out the example program this weekend.? But my hopes are not too high that I will be successful.

Steve

    
On 6/26/20 7:38 AM, Rob via groups.io wrote:

The sheer number of completely unrelated replies with suggestions in this thread is concerning.?

How about some real documentation and training, Crestron?


Re: VTPro resolution for premium/high end phones? #crestron #android #app

 

I found that iPhones (and iPads) actually do a pretty nice job up-scaling from lower resolutions, so I do not miss a higher resolution app. However, I was wondering if there is a way to use the full real estate of a more recent generation iPhone. I am talking about the top and bottom areas - see screenshot. I have experimented a bit in VTPro with different device models, as well as custom resolutions, but always ended up with the limited 'letter boxed' screen of an iPhone 5 or similar generation.


Re: Uploading CH5

 

The sheer number of completely unrelated replies with suggestions in this thread is concerning.?

How about some real documentation and training, Crestron?


Re: VTPro resolution for premium/high end phones? #crestron #android #app

 

For iPhone you are still better off using the standard iPhone 5 resolution they have as a setting because the Crestron app for iOS does not support retina graphics.? I believe Apple has a requirement now that all apps must support all of their resolutions, so I'll be surprised if we ever see an update to the app, because Crestron has been against providing that to us since only "Crestron Mobile" was available.? They claimed that it had to do with the amount of onboard memory not being enough on the iPhones but I'd be willing to bet it's more because VTPro would bog down to being unusable with projects of those higher resolutions.


Re: Uploading CH5

 

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I had a same issue, and after putting -p after IP address, it was resolved.?


On 26 Jun 2020, at 03:31, jberg@... wrote:

?I set username and pass word in the TP and used -p? that? forces to ask for username and password but I still get the same error.
I tied restore also but the same result.
I'll keep trying, any idea will be welcomed.

Thanks

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Re: Uploading CH5

 

Sorry, you transfer the .chz file to the panels ¡°Display¡± folder. That .chz is created when you do a Archive command in VS code. And then it puts that chz in a template folder I want to say


Re: Uploading CH5

 

When I couldn¡¯t get mine to load, a Crestron employee had me load it manually via ftp and then project load command fro console one time; it worked after that from VS Code


Re: Uploading CH5

 

I set username and pass word in the TP and used -p? that? forces to ask for username and password but I still get the same error.
I tied restore also but the same result.
I'll keep trying, any idea will be welcomed.

Thanks

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VTPro resolution for premium/high end phones? #crestron #android #app

 

Title pretty much says it all, what's the recommended resolution for developing a VTPro project for an IPhone X/11 or SAMSUNG S10/S20?

Thanks guys.


Re: Nest TStat Integration

 

Yeah Nest is pretty much done for.

Ecobee is a nice alternative. Here's the driver for it:?