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Re: Interlogix alternative
I never found HAI to be unreliable at all. Those things are solid and we will miss them. But like you we are in the same boat need need something more custom than Honeywell. Our company owner was holding on to hope that there would be something on the Bosch-Crestron front but it appears they have stopped development so looks like we only have a few options.?
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Re: Controlled Kettle
If you think this is bad...a client once asked me to tie his Toto Washlet into his system so he could flush the toilet with the ML-600 he had in his bathroom.? I calmly explained to him that it made no sense to have to go find the ML-600 when he could just use the wireless toilet remote that was mounted on the wall about 12" away from? him...or when he could just flush it manually when he stood up.? Then I jokingly told him that, if he insisted I integrate the toilet, that I was going to make the toilet flush once every year on my birthday.? He laughed and just said "Ok, I get your point".
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On 19 Dec 2019, at 13:17, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
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Re: Crestron Certified Drivers - Fire TV 4K CEC - no control
FireTV's do have a few glitches that require reboot from time to time (not related to controlling them).? I have several FireTV 4K's, and I don't notice too big of a speed problem with them.? The Fire Stick is definately slower than the standard FireTV box, are you referring to the stick when doing a comparison, or is Roku that much smoother (even compared to the normal FireTV box)?? Having not used a Roku before, I've not compared them.? It's a shame that Amazon dropped the ADB support, I did not hear about this (that sucks!).
The reason I think the FireTV still has an edge is that you can sideload android .apk's to them still, so they are widely popular for cheap Kodi boxes.? My only problem is they are a bit short on memory.? 8GB doesn't go far when you start installing a bunch of apps or have Kodi installed.? Roku's are very popular, but not very open or flexible to other things with them.? Unless they've changed, they were way more locked down that the alternatives (other than Apple) and so were not popular in the "alternative use" market.? FireTV's problem is they were great when they were released several years ago, but the spec's haven't kept pace.? The newer versions are dopping ethernet ports, and they are trying to add Alexa in instead of making a version with a faster processor or more memory.? I want something similar to the FireTV 4K, but faster, double the memory, and keep the built-in ethernet connector.? They can keep Alexa out of it for all I care, that is not what I want in a streaming box.? I also prefer an actual box that can sit on a shelf or near network connectors, and my AV receiver, and not "hang off the back of the TV from the HDMI connector (waiting to fall out). I would probably try out an NVidia shield as my next box, just for the openness of it, and I hear they are pretty fast running.? I would hope they have more than 8GB of memory too, and they still allow .apk sideloads. -- Jason Mussetter Control Systems Designer Mussetter Programming Services |
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Re: Controlled Kettle
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI¡¯m afraid we may have passed that point already¡ there is hope for turning the shift¡ ? To the original question (and what may have been overlooked in some of the replies) there¡¯s a fine line between interfacing with something that¡¯s built to be integrated and bodging integration, especially when you¡¯re talking about something that¡¯s not fail safe or intended for life safety applications. ? If there was a kettle designed to be integrated (I¡¯m not aware of one, but I also don¡¯t drink any warm/hot beverages as a matter of course) it would almost assuredly have a fail-safe design to account for possible failure modes and, also, likely, would be capable of operating on a stand-alone basis ¨C the appliances that play nice with Alexa/Google and are sold via normal retail channels have to fall into this category or the relevant consumer safety organizations would end that now. ? On the other hand, bodging your own integration with a series of valves, relays, etc. for a generic kettle has so many ways to go horribly wrong (relays get stuck open/closed, valve doesn¡¯t open or doesn¡¯t close, etc.) which potentially has a much greater liability exposure. ? This is in the same vein of integrating a thermostat (be it one of Crestron¡¯s, Aprilaire, Honeywell, or any of the other integratable stats) versus just reinventing the stat with a temperature sensor and Crestron programming. If done properly it should ¡°always¡± work but when it doesn¡¯t and the pipes freeze or you run the heater until the indoor temperature is 110 ¡ it¡¯s not going to be pretty. ? Lincoln ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of
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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 6:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [crestron] Controlled Kettle ? We are fast becoming the species depicted in Idiocracy.
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWith Crestron we can control most anything we can think of.?
Even if it¡¯s not practical Although it¡¯s great to know we can.? Randy Hanner On Dec 18, 2019, at 4:25 PM, Crestron_Programmer <s.marszalek11@...> wrote:
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Today¡¯s electric kettles include boil dry protection.? To trigger the push button that is part of most electric kettles you can probably use a SwitchBot with their hub and my IFTTT module. Of course that will cost you more than the price of the kettle ? But automation is cheap at any price Jay On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:22 AM Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:
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Re: Interlogix alternative
+1 for Elk On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 9:34 AM Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:
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Re: Controlled Kettle
Just let it burn!!!
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Place a sensor inside if the water level is low. Make a feedback in your touch screen or make a bell system using the IO of the processor for the sensor. Place the bell in the other relay. You have a 8sw8. Then ?another relay will turn the water faucet that we install earlier. That will replenish the water inside the kettle. With the sensor, it will stop if near full.? In Addition, use a scheduler to have it hot every morning or in the afternoon or at night your choice.? On Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 8:21 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:
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¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGonna build in some mechanism to ensure there¡¯s actually water in the kettle? Or just let it burn the house down...On Dec 18, 2019, at 10:07 AM, ace plagata via Groups.Io <ace_plagata@...> wrote:
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Re: Controlled Kettle
Rewire it. Bypass the button, Add it in a relay.?
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Program with timer. Just 8mins the relay will open. On Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 7:07 PM, Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:
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Re: Interlogix alternative
I'm not up to speed on what modules are available for resi these days, but back in my resi days, I was a huge proponent of the ELK M1 Gold panels.? They had a fantastic API that worked via serial or TCP/IP and the alarm panel itself?could be programmed via a PC, so not more hours standing in front of a keypad with a massive manual in hand.... On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 8:45 AM Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:
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On Dec 18, 2019, at 8:51 AM, Crestron_Programmer <s.marszalek11@...> wrote:
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Steve McNally