I want to look into creating Themes but have been stopped at Step 1 :( I assume it's supposed to be accessed from VT-Pro but it's grayed out. What do I need to do to activate it? Also, is there any Crestron documentation? (stop laughing!).
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Re: Crestron Samsung EX-LINK Issues
This is an old post but I was just having this same issue. It came down to how the command is "built" in the SIMPL+ module. It takes the channel digit, multiplies it by 4, and then converts it into HEX. Well because HEX caps out at 255, any channels about 64 (technically 63.75) will start to have strange behavior. Here is the SIMPL+ code for reference:
if(DTV) makestring(sChannelCommand, "\x08\x22\x04\x80%s%s", chr(iMainChannel * 4), chr(iSubChannel));
I'm trying to figure out why the module needs to multiply it by 4. It only does it for DTV and not ATV.
1. Has anybody tried getting rid of the "*4" and would the TV accept the command? 2. If the "*4" has to stay, how do you format longer channels in the string?
For example this is the string to go to channel 47.1:?\x08\x22\x04\x80\xBC\x01\x95 Does there need to be a "high channel"?
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Hey guys,
I've got 5 (TSW) panels and a client wants an intercom system. I don't need a server if it's 8 or less panels, correct? Any pointers? Gotchas?
Thank you,
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If you can afford it, buy an RMC3. If not, get a QM-RMC off of ebay (should be able to get one for under $50). You can do almost all of the entry level Smart Graphics stuff with it on an Xpanel or via the iPad/Android app. ?
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Fusion Ovation control with 2 Series Processor
Does anyone have any experience with Controlling a Fusion Ovation OMS-3 using the Control Works Module? ?it says it is only compatible with 3 Series Processors. ?Talked to Control works and they said they have not tested in on a 2 series and couldn't guarantee it to work well. ?I would just try it and see but Im not that excited about spending 400 dollars for nothing.
Any additional info would be appreciated.
Thanks!
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LOL, I forgot that they made?some 2 series without Ethernet... yeah, that's no good for learning.?
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That¡¯s more or less my point ¨C no S+, no ACOMP2 (oh, how dearly do I love that symbol) ¨C forces you to be creative and understand what¡¯s going on under the hood. ? ? There are a number of places where S+ is needed for string handling or ¡°advanced¡± math, but there are just as many places where S+ is used out of laziness. For example, it is entirely possible to build a Request to Speak Queue with ¡°management¡± (swapping users, removing a user from the middle, etc.) entirely in SIMPL, but I usually do it in S+ because it¡¯s faster. But doing it in SIMPL can really illustrate the relationships between logic waves and serial behavior. ? -- Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D Commercial Market Director Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold) ControlWorks Consulting, LLC Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional ?
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I don¡¯t get it, it doesn¡¯t support simpl+.? Most every receiver and advanced AV device uses simpl+ inside its modules.? This means he can¡¯t load or use most modules from the Crestron database. ? ?
Yep, I think learning on an ST-CP is a great idea. ? ? where is the "like" button? I'm with Lincoln on this one
> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby lincoln@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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> I'm still (loosely) hanging on to my comment from a few years ago that any new programmer should be forced to learn on a ST-CP -- the limitations of the platform relative to newer processors can really teach you to look at problems in different ways and be inventive with solutions. The newer platforms are also far more forgiving in most respects than the older platforms.
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> The point I was trying to make is that learning in an outdated processor would cause them to learn certain things that don't apply to the current processors. My "break before make" comment was a poor example.
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Who wants to load programs with an RJ11 to DB9 to USB adapter?
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where is the "like" button? I'm with Lincoln on this one
> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby
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> I'm still (loosely) hanging on to my comment from a few years ago that any new programmer should be forced to learn on a ST-CP -- the limitations of the platform relative to newer processors can really teach you to look at problems in different ways and be
inventive with solutions. The newer platforms are also far more forgiving in most respects than the older platforms.
>
> --
> Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D
> Commercial Market Director
> Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)
> ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
> Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional
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It's my opinion that ?you should learn how to code without having access to S+ because you'll learn better habits that won't bite you from being spoiled with some of what S+ can do.
This conversation is different now that S#Pro is in the wild but I don't think that is the OPs level.? By that I mean, if the OP were a traditional software developer with OO programming experience, then a 3-series is a MUST. But if you're coming from scratch, the ST-CP is a great box to learn on.
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Agreed.? While there's obviously some value in being forced to use the basics on an older processor like the ST-CP, a programmer really needs to learn how to use the more current facilities that are available in order to deliver a real solution to the client.
Geoff
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Agreed.? While there's obviously some value in being forced to use the basics on an older processor like the ST-CP, a programmer really needs to learn how to use the more current facilities that are available in order to deliver a real solution to the client.
Geoff
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I don¡¯t get it, it doesn¡¯t support simpl+.? Most every receiver and advanced AV device uses simpl+ inside its modules.? This means he can¡¯t load or use
most modules from the Crestron database.
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Yep, I think learning on an ST-CP is a great idea.
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where is the "like" button? I'm with Lincoln on this one
> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby
lincoln@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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> I'm still (loosely) hanging on to my comment from a few years ago that any new programmer should be forced to learn on a ST-CP -- the limitations of the platform relative to newer processors can really teach you to look at problems in different ways and be
inventive with solutions. The newer platforms are also far more forgiving in most respects than the older platforms.
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> --
> Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D
> Commercial Market Director
> Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)
> ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
> Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional
>
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> The point I was trying to make is that learning in an outdated processor would cause them to learn certain things that don't apply to the current processors. My "break before make" comment was a poor example.
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where is the "like" button? I'm with Lincoln on this one
> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby
lincoln@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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> I'm still (loosely) hanging on to my comment from a few years ago that any new programmer should be forced to learn on a ST-CP -- the limitations of the platform relative to newer processors can really teach you to look at problems in different ways and be
inventive with solutions. The newer platforms are also far more forgiving in most respects than the older platforms.
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> Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D
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> Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)
> ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
> Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional
>
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Yep, I think learning on an ST-CP is a great idea.
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where is the "like" button? I'm with Lincoln on this one
> On Feb 11, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Lincoln King-Cliby lincoln@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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> I'm still (loosely) hanging on to my comment from a few years ago that any new programmer should be forced to learn on a ST-CP -- the limitations of the platform relative to newer processors can really teach you to look at problems in different ways and be inventive with solutions. The newer platforms are also far more forgiving in most respects than the older platforms.
>
> --
> Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D
> Commercial Market Director
> Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)
> ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
> Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...]
> Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:07 AM
> To: Crestron@...
> Subject: [Crestron] Re: New Programmer
>
> The point I was trying to make is that learning in an outdated processor would cause them to learn certain things that don't apply to the current processors. My "break before make" comment was a poor example.
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I'm still (loosely) hanging on to my comment from a few years ago that any new programmer should be forced to learn on a ST-CP -- the limitations of the platform relative to newer processors can really teach you to look at problems in different ways and be inventive with solutions. The newer platforms are also far more forgiving in most respects than the older platforms.
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Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional
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The point I was trying to make is that learning in an outdated processor would cause them to learn certain things that don't apply to the current processors. My "break before make" comment was a poor example.
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I'm still (loosely) hanging on to my comment from a few years ago that any new programmer should be forced to learn on a ST-CP -- the limitations of the platform relative to newer processors can really teach you to look at problems in different ways and be inventive with solutions. The newer platforms are also far more forgiving in most respects than the older platforms.
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Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Gold)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Audia Certified | Extron Control Professional
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The point I was trying to make is that learning in an outdated processor would cause them to learn certain things that don't apply to the current processors. My "break before make" comment was a poor example.
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I've done with UDP Client using port 12287 with the ip table set to 255.255.255.255
When I last did this on a PRO2 with a Dual Nic, with the address set to 255.255.255.255, it will be interpreted as "this network". When using a C2ENET-2 card, "this network" will be on the LAN-A connection.
If you need to force to the LAN-B connection, then you will need to calculate the limited broadcast address and use that instead.
How to calculate the subnet-directed broadcast address
1) Convert machine address to binary e.g. 10.208.20.1 = 00001010.11010000.00010100.00000001
2) Convert the Subnet Mask to Binary e.g. 255.255.240.0 = 11111111.11111111.11110000.00000000
3) Invert the Binary Subnet Mask e.g. 11111111.11111111.11110000.00000000? ? ?becomes 00000000.00000000.00001111.11111111
4) OR the machine address and the inverted subnet mask e.g. 00001010.11010000.00010100.00000001? ? ?Or 00000000.00000000.00001111.11111111 = 00001010.11010000.00011111.11111111 = 10.208.31.255
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Eric Walters sentry07@... [Crestron] <Crestron@...> wrote:
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You need a UDP client with an IP of 255.255.255.255 using port 9. Send a string that consists of \xFF\xFF\xFF\xFF\xFF\xFF followed by the MAC address in hex like \x00\x0C\x31\x24\x08\x4F repeated 16 times.
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>>? ?Not to mention that digital signals in x series processors don't break before make,
"Break before make" is a function of the symbols that are driving them, not the signals themselves. ?X Gen most certainly had break before make symbols - all the way back to the Cresnet IIP systems. ?Things like the Interlock. ?Perhaps what you are thinking of is that the 2 series changes some symbols to be break before make behavior - SR, Toggle, things like that.
BTW, ST-CP was in the generation between CNMS and X. ?(CNMS was Ops 3.XX.XX, ST-CP was 4.XX.XX, and X was 5.XX.XX...)
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Re: Need SIMPL windows module for Extron AVT 100N
However, because the Extron protocol is so simple, it's a great way to _learn_ how to make a module. My first module was for an Extron switcher.
There is a file in the Files section of this group called ExtronExample.smw. It has a few ways to do it with SIMPL+. If you have a little extra time to look at it, you can get a great lesson about modules.
Kevin
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Why would you move to Studio? ?It's full of issues and it will probably never be of any use to anyone but a beginner who doesn't know their way around SIMPL.
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