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I have mine from masters, but I think I gave it to my wife - seem to recall it didn't have enough structure or compartments or somesuch...

But thanks for all of the suggestions, everyone. I think I'll be spending part of this weekend comparing the features of all of these.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@> wrote:

Agreed, love my Ogio:
Fits
my 17" HP and everything else. Crestron was handing out 15" versions of
these two years ago at masters, haven't used that one because I don't have
any laptops that fit in it. :(


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Trey Chamrad - Hometunes <
trey@> wrote:

only way to go IMO







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I use an Osprey Flap Jack messenger bag. Works great, fits my mammoth HP

laptop, separate tablet sleeve, plenty of room for extras, sits comfortably

hanging on my shoulder or slung across my back. There's a backpack version

as well. Don't let the odd strap color combos in the pictures turn you

off...it comes with multiple color options for the hold downs. I'm fairly

picky about laptop bags, but have happily used one of these things for the

last 3-4 years. The grey is a bit darker than the pictures suggest...after

seeing that color in person, I wish that's what I had bought (I've got the

blue one as well as an older orange model).









On Friday, June 21, 2013, Chip wrote:

**

My current laptop bag (Targus) is starting to come apart at the seams

after much abuse on my part. Not sure if I should be considering other

makes for a replacement.

The list of "must haves" for a bag are...

- compartment for a laptop. I know that's a "duh", but if I don't say it,

others will call me on it.

- compartment - even larger than the laptop compartment - for cables,

power supply, bigger tools/gadgets.

- smaller compartment/pouch for tweakers and other smaller tools/gadgets

that would get lost in the big compartment.

- a large, flat pocket area - preferably with at least on partition - for

drawings & paperwork that shouldn't come out curled or crumpled...

Anyone have a bag or backpack that's laid out like this that they're

happy

with?

Thanks,

- Chip

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I have mine from masters, but I think I gave it to my wife - seem to recall it didn't have enough structure or compartments or somesuch...

But thanks for all of the suggestions, everyone. I think I'll be spending part of this weekend comparing the features of all of these.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Jeremy Weatherford <jweather@> wrote:

Agreed, love my Ogio:
Fits
my 17" HP and everything else. Crestron was handing out 15" versions of
these two years ago at masters, haven't used that one because I don't have
any laptops that fit in it. :(


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 12:59 AM, Trey Chamrad - Hometunes <
trey@> wrote:

only way to go IMO







-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of Steve Kaudle
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 11:56 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: Re: [Crestron] OT: Laptop Bags?



I use an Osprey Flap Jack messenger bag. Works great, fits my mammoth HP

laptop, separate tablet sleeve, plenty of room for extras, sits comfortably

hanging on my shoulder or slung across my back. There's a backpack version

as well. Don't let the odd strap color combos in the pictures turn you

off...it comes with multiple color options for the hold downs. I'm fairly

picky about laptop bags, but have happily used one of these things for the

last 3-4 years. The grey is a bit darker than the pictures suggest...after

seeing that color in person, I wish that's what I had bought (I've got the

blue one as well as an older orange model).









On Friday, June 21, 2013, Chip wrote:

**

My current laptop bag (Targus) is starting to come apart at the seams

after much abuse on my part. Not sure if I should be considering other

makes for a replacement.

The list of "must haves" for a bag are...

- compartment for a laptop. I know that's a "duh", but if I don't say it,

others will call me on it.

- compartment - even larger than the laptop compartment - for cables,

power supply, bigger tools/gadgets.

- smaller compartment/pouch for tweakers and other smaller tools/gadgets

that would get lost in the big compartment.

- a large, flat pocket area - preferably with at least on partition - for

drawings & paperwork that shouldn't come out curled or crumpled...

Anyone have a bag or backpack that's laid out like this that they're

happy

with?

Thanks,

- Chip

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On 2013-08-15, at 8:44 PM, "goofy_1562" <jon@...> wrote:

As others have said John great to see that you are taking notice and taking the time to reply.

My main complaint with the Core 3 stuff is lack of training, We live on the other side of the planet so I don't know if you guys have specific training for Core 3 in the US. Our sales guys here love selling new stuff....TSW 1050 and 750's being their favourite... So it leaves us to carry on regardless of our opinions, On starting my first Core 3 a while ago I rang up our support here in Oz and was told to watch the videos on the website as that was all there was, it helped a little but no way explained the nuances of switching from the old VT Pro. So again its doing stuff self taught so you really don't know if you are really doing it the correct or quickest way

My 2c

Cheers Jon

--- In Crestron@..., John Pavlik <jpavlik@> wrote:

Sounds like I'd better show up at Master's class this year - because none of that feedback made it back to me.

Look, we can't do everything and we can't do it all immediately. And yes, inertia sometimes comes into play. The bottom line is that Fred and I do very much care what you have to say and please don't stop telling us what you want and need.

In a lot of cases of course, everyone wants something different and so "make a product that is this" sorts of comments are good but of course will take the longest to gel. In other cases, there may be infrastructure shifts that we've made (and in some cases those shifts are still looking years down the road) and so the request is backtracking from the bigger picture.

We have made a lot of changes in engineering over the last year to improve quality and change some of the direction - but it takes months and months for those efforts to show up at your doorstep.

To address a few things that I've seen recently...

- I lost track of who updated the splash screens in the software but I thought that was classic. I am sorry that it was done out of frustration but thanks for giving me a chuckle.

- No engineering resources were harmed in updating the icons. Frankly, I was surprised as you were to see them changed. That doesn't go through Architecture review!

- Rebooting the TSW nightly is a stopgap. Creating an embedded product these days is much more complicated than it was years ago and has all sorts of operating system and supplier nuances (and legalities on source code, etc). But we have been actively pursuing solutions for some time now. I am a frustrated as you are that we are still doing this.

- Crestron Studio - well, I think the answer is that it isn't ready for anybody on this forum. I'll be honest, my team doesn't use it either. But as someone pointed out, if we don't get the feedback from everyone here it will never be what you want. But, the database thing has been well discussed and there is agreement that what is there is not appropriate for what many of you are doing. So, there will be changes. But not soon enough - that nasty priority thing again. The immediate goal it to improve upon on the program generation aspects of the system to allow more automatic system generation. I wouldn't call it System Builder but maybe System Builder re-imagined, where logic is generated but not untouchable, and customizations and mix and match code really work. Probably not of any interest to this group, but we need it in the market as a whole.

- Meanwhile, we have been investing heavily in SIMPL Windows and VTPro. For example, SIMPL Windows is going to be getting the automatic CED File management that it so very sorely needs.

- And for those about to jump on why do we even have CED files, I do have a skunk works project to try and produce at least a flat view dpad and number pad. Haven't quite figured out the best way to release it yet.

So, while we don't necessarily share back what we've heard and what we are doing about it, we do listen and it does cause change. Probably not as fast as you want it and probably not everything you want but don't stop sharing.

I want Crestron to be the best that it can be. And to do that we need the continued support of all of you. You all are a big part of what Crestron has become and I need you to continue to do that. I know its frustrating at times. As I lie awake at 3am staring at the ceiling I think about these things too! But I think together we can continue to make strives and be a mutual success.

I will see many of you at CEDIA so that you can complain in person! And I think most of you know how to get it touch with me one way or another so feel free.

John Pavlik
Crestron Electronics, Inc.
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I can only put Ethernet Communication System if the processor is the PMC3 ... In my case I'm using two PMC2 ... I'm doing something wrong?

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You only have to pay if you want larger projects. They do offer a free version.

--- In Crestron@..., "RobK" <fooguy89@> wrote:

I don't really understand. How have they paid for iPad functionality in their system already?

--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:

That's not true, these 30 iPads will not be on the same Apple ID. I don't mind my customers paying $99 for the iPad app, but think that customers that have paid for iPad functionality in their system should not have to pay twice. The explanation is techy, communication to customers should always be solution driven imo.

--- In Crestron@..., "amdtech2000" <jack.kolesar@> wrote:

For $99? Hell if they have 1 iPad it is $99. If they have 30 iPads, it is $99. Sounds like a non-issue. You have a multiple factor of that invested in redesigning the panels.

Could be worse. AMX is over $700 PER DEVICE because they use a licensing system and the customer doesn't buy the app (it's free). They buy a license from YOU. That is a lot tougher to explain but is still WAY cheaper than buying an AMX/Crestron touch panel.

Jack

--- In Crestron@..., "rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:

Hey guys, am I the only one who finds it hard to explain to my customers who bought the Mobile Pro app recently that if they want to upgrade their experience they need to purchase the upgrade for another $99?

It's probably not too late... :-)

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

I laughed so hard - I'm not sure how I got away without being smacked over it.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Russell Grove <russellrgrove@> wrote:

17" 1920x1080 touchscreen laptop and 24" 1920x1080 monitor. I use the touchscreen so much sometimes I touch the monitor.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:07 PM, "crestronstatus" <getaroundtheglobe@> wrote:

I have dual Dell 2412s leaning back on full motion arms with a fully ergonomic motorized desk and tilting keyboard tray.... 3840x1200 proves more than ample space for side by side Photoshop and vtp doing iPad layouts in landscape or portrait....
Yes, I am a little proud of it.

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

I have a 1920x1080 27" at home. It is nice on the eyes. I just wish it had 50% more real estate...

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-08-15, at 11:25 AM, "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

My main display is 27", so at native 1920x1080 res, it's nice and comfy for my eyeballs.

I'm expecting a new machine imminently, and am considering buying a new display to go with it - it looks like one of the 2560x1080 29" models will be the winner here, as the 2560x1600 models cost more than I want to dish out and may render stuff too small for my tastes.

Would LOVE something along the lines of a 32"-ish 2560x1440, but they don't exist. I'm not going to even consider the 27" models that use that resolution.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

Wow Chip, you're easily satisfied.

I'm disappointed with my 1920x1080 17" laptop and 1920x1200 24" monitor and am looking for a 2560x1600 30" for a decent price ...

I'm doing TSW-1050s as we speak and I can barely see all my tools at 1920x1080 :(

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-08-15, at 7:53 AM, "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

I'm not hurting for real estate - main display is a nice 1920x1080 unit, and I have a 1680x1050 to plug in and extend to when I need it. (And yes, I've had VTPro stretched across both a few times)

Unfortunately the problem has nothing to do with available screen space...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Nick Mitchell <nick@> wrote:

I've only needed to do this a few times but I switched my monitor
configuration from multiple desktops to stretch the first monitor across
the second so VTPro takes up both screens and then I had the real estate to
open up all the pages I wanted at the same time.

I dont know if all video cards support stretch but it was a function of
windows so maybe its more dependant on the version of windows. Im pretty
sure I did it on windows xp and 7 tho.

Nick


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On August 14, 2013 10:03:16 AM "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

Yeah, the snapshot/image editor bit is how I've been rolling. :/ It's
"kinda" close?

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

Not that it really helps, but what I typically do is open Project #1,

expand out the project tree, and use SnagIt to capture the (scrolling)
workspace window... I then print it out and run down it with a highlighter.

Or if you want to be green open it in your favorite image editor and run

the eraser across each line.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On

Behalf Of Chip

Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Comparing VTPro projects

Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two

projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references,
and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip


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School of hands on hard knocks. That's how I learned Smart Graphics and its paid off in spades. I now hate non Smart Graphics projects and avoid them wherever possible.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-08-15, at 8:44 PM, "goofy_1562" <jon@...> wrote:

As others have said John great to see that you are taking notice and taking the time to reply.

My main complaint with the Core 3 stuff is lack of training, We live on the other side of the planet so I don't know if you guys have specific training for Core 3 in the US. Our sales guys here love selling new stuff....TSW 1050 and 750's being their favourite... So it leaves us to carry on regardless of our opinions, On starting my first Core 3 a while ago I rang up our support here in Oz and was told to watch the videos on the website as that was all there was, it helped a little but no way explained the nuances of switching from the old VT Pro. So again its doing stuff self taught so you really don't know if you are really doing it the correct or quickest way

My 2c

Cheers Jon

--- In Crestron@..., John Pavlik <jpavlik@> wrote:

Sounds like I'd better show up at Master's class this year - because none of that feedback made it back to me.

Look, we can't do everything and we can't do it all immediately. And yes, inertia sometimes comes into play. The bottom line is that Fred and I do very much care what you have to say and please don't stop telling us what you want and need.

In a lot of cases of course, everyone wants something different and so "make a product that is this" sorts of comments are good but of course will take the longest to gel. In other cases, there may be infrastructure shifts that we've made (and in some cases those shifts are still looking years down the road) and so the request is backtracking from the bigger picture.

We have made a lot of changes in engineering over the last year to improve quality and change some of the direction - but it takes months and months for those efforts to show up at your doorstep.

To address a few things that I've seen recently...

- I lost track of who updated the splash screens in the software but I thought that was classic. I am sorry that it was done out of frustration but thanks for giving me a chuckle.

- No engineering resources were harmed in updating the icons. Frankly, I was surprised as you were to see them changed. That doesn't go through Architecture review!

- Rebooting the TSW nightly is a stopgap. Creating an embedded product these days is much more complicated than it was years ago and has all sorts of operating system and supplier nuances (and legalities on source code, etc). But we have been actively pursuing solutions for some time now. I am a frustrated as you are that we are still doing this.

- Crestron Studio - well, I think the answer is that it isn't ready for anybody on this forum. I'll be honest, my team doesn't use it either. But as someone pointed out, if we don't get the feedback from everyone here it will never be what you want. But, the database thing has been well discussed and there is agreement that what is there is not appropriate for what many of you are doing. So, there will be changes. But not soon enough - that nasty priority thing again. The immediate goal it to improve upon on the program generation aspects of the system to allow more automatic system generation. I wouldn't call it System Builder but maybe System Builder re-imagined, where logic is generated but not untouchable, and customizations and mix and match code really work. Probably not of any interest to this group, but we need it in the market as a whole.

- Meanwhile, we have been investing heavily in SIMPL Windows and VTPro. For example, SIMPL Windows is going to be getting the automatic CED File management that it so very sorely needs.

- And for those about to jump on why do we even have CED files, I do have a skunk works project to try and produce at least a flat view dpad and number pad. Haven't quite figured out the best way to release it yet.

So, while we don't necessarily share back what we've heard and what we are doing about it, we do listen and it does cause change. Probably not as fast as you want it and probably not everything you want but don't stop sharing.

I want Crestron to be the best that it can be. And to do that we need the continued support of all of you. You all are a big part of what Crestron has become and I need you to continue to do that. I know its frustrating at times. As I lie awake at 3am staring at the ceiling I think about these things too! But I think together we can continue to make strives and be a mutual success.

I will see many of you at CEDIA so that you can complain in person! And I think most of you know how to get it touch with me one way or another so feel free.

John Pavlik
Crestron Electronics, Inc.
Director, Architecture & Design




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Hi Group!
I'm new in the Crestron universe. I have to reprogram a system with two PMC2. Currently the processors are working independently, but I want to make them work interconnected. How can I do this? If I use XSIG and UDP, I will be able to send commands from one processor to the other using the existing ethernet?

Thanks in advance!

Ahhemm...

yup.


Mark


On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 7:21 PM, Chip <cfm@...> wrote:

**



I guess my wife has been using her iPad so much that she's associated the
Apple logo with "touchable". I put my MB Air in front of her the other
night to show her something, and she couldn't figure out why the page
didn't scroll when she tapped & dragged on the display.

I laughed so hard - I'm not sure how I got away without being smacked over
it.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Russell Grove <russellrgrove@...> wrote:

17" 1920x1080 touchscreen laptop and 24" 1920x1080 monitor. I use the

touchscreen so much sometimes I touch the monitor.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 15, 2013, at 4:07 PM, "crestronstatus" <getaroundtheglobe@...>

wrote:

I have dual Dell 2412s leaning back on full motion arms with a fully

ergonomic motorized desk and tilting keyboard tray.... 3840x1200 proves
more than ample space for side by side Photoshop and vtp doing iPad layouts
in landscape or portrait....

Yes, I am a little proud of it.

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

I have a 1920x1080 27" at home. It is nice on the eyes. I just wish

it had 50% more real estate...

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-08-15, at 11:25 AM, "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

My main display is 27", so at native 1920x1080 res, it's nice and

comfy for my eyeballs.

I'm expecting a new machine imminently, and am considering buying

a new display to go with it - it looks like one of the 2560x1080 29" models
will be the winner here, as the 2560x1600 models cost more than I want to
dish out and may render stuff too small for my tastes.

Would LOVE something along the lines of a 32"-ish 2560x1440, but

they don't exist. I'm not going to even consider the 27" models that use
that resolution.

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@> wrote:

Wow Chip, you're easily satisfied.

I'm disappointed with my 1920x1080 17" laptop and 1920x1200 24"

monitor and am looking for a 2560x1600 30" for a decent price ...

I'm doing TSW-1050s as we speak and I can barely see all my

tools at 1920x1080 :(

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013-08-15, at 7:53 AM, "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

I'm not hurting for real estate - main display is a nice

1920x1080 unit, and I have a 1680x1050 to plug in and extend to when I need
it. (And yes, I've had VTPro stretched across both a few times)

Unfortunately the problem has nothing to do with available

screen space...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Nick Mitchell <nick@> wrote:

I've only needed to do this a few times but I switched my

monitor

configuration from multiple desktops to stretch the first

monitor across

the second so VTPro takes up both screens and then I had the

real estate to

open up all the pages I wanted at the same time.

I dont know if all video cards support stretch but it was a

function of

windows so maybe its more dependant on the version of

windows. Im pretty

sure I did it on windows xp and 7 tho.

Nick


Sent with AquaMail for Android



On August 14, 2013 10:03:16 AM "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

Yeah, the snapshot/image editor bit is how I've been

rolling. :/ It's

"kinda" close?

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby

<lincoln@> wrote:

Not that it really helps, but what I typically do is

open Project #1,

expand out the project tree, and use SnagIt to capture the

(scrolling)

workspace window... I then print it out and run down it

with a highlighter.

Or if you want to be green open it in your favorite

image editor and run

the eraser across each line.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master

Programmer (Silver) V:

440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440-449-1106 I:

Crestron Services Provider
-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:

Crestron@...] On

Behalf Of Chip

Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Comparing VTPro projects

Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of

VTPro? I have two

projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and

subpage references,

and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip


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Sounds like I'd better show up at Master's class this year - because none of that feedback made it back to me.

Look, we can't do everything and we can't do it all immediately. And yes, inertia sometimes comes into play. The bottom line is that Fred and I do very much care what you have to say and please don't stop telling us what you want and need.

In a lot of cases of course, everyone wants something different and so "make a product that is this" sorts of comments are good but of course will take the longest to gel. In other cases, there may be infrastructure shifts that we've made (and in some cases those shifts are still looking years down the road) and so the request is backtracking from the bigger picture.

We have made a lot of changes in engineering over the last year to improve quality and change some of the direction - but it takes months and months for those efforts to show up at your doorstep.

To address a few things that I've seen recently...

- I lost track of who updated the splash screens in the software but I thought that was classic. I am sorry that it was done out of frustration but thanks for giving me a chuckle.

- No engineering resources were harmed in updating the icons. Frankly, I was surprised as you were to see them changed. That doesn't go through Architecture review!

- Rebooting the TSW nightly is a stopgap. Creating an embedded product these days is much more complicated than it was years ago and has all sorts of operating system and supplier nuances (and legalities on source code, etc). But we have been actively pursuing solutions for some time now. I am a frustrated as you are that we are still doing this.

- Crestron Studio - well, I think the answer is that it isn't ready for anybody on this forum. I'll be honest, my team doesn't use it either. But as someone pointed out, if we don't get the feedback from everyone here it will never be what you want. But, the database thing has been well discussed and there is agreement that what is there is not appropriate for what many of you are doing. So, there will be changes. But not soon enough - that nasty priority thing again. The immediate goal it to improve upon on the program generation aspects of the system to allow more automatic system generation. I wouldn't call it System Builder but maybe System Builder re-imagined, where logic is generated but not untouchable, and customizations and mix and match code really work. Probably not of any interest to this group, but we need it in the market as a whole.

- Meanwhile, we have been investing heavily in SIMPL Windows and VTPro. For example, SIMPL Windows is going to be getting the automatic CED File management that it so very sorely needs.

- And for those about to jump on why do we even have CED files, I do have a skunk works project to try and produce at least a flat view dpad and number pad. Haven't quite figured out the best way to release it yet.

So, while we don't necessarily share back what we've heard and what we are doing about it, we do listen and it does cause change. Probably not as fast as you want it and probably not everything you want but don't stop sharing.

I want Crestron to be the best that it can be. And to do that we need the continued support of all of you. You all are a big part of what Crestron has become and I need you to continue to do that. I know its frustrating at times. As I lie awake at 3am staring at the ceiling I think about these things too! But I think together we can continue to make strives and be a mutual success.

I will see many of you at CEDIA so that you can complain in person! And I think most of you know how to get it touch with me one way or another so feel free.

John Pavlik
Crestron Electronics, Inc.
Director, Architecture & Design




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Anyone have a protocol document? I can reverse it from the current for a rewrite, but it will take a bit longer

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@> wrote:

I think the Carrier Infinity modules have been a problem for a long time. Or should I say, the Carrier Infinity control boards.

Here's a thread from a couple years ago where I was able to capture some erroneous serial strings coming off the integration panel. You might try to duplicate these results, if possible. I gave up on it at the time.



And another thread that didn't really go anywhere, but explains the real problem with the modules is that they aren't handling the NAK responses correctly.





--- In Crestron@..., "Jeff" <jeff@> wrote:

Hi,
I'm using the Carrier Infinity module from Crestron (v2), and I'm having
one heck of a time with it. I thought I'd reach out to this group for
ideas.
Fundamental problem: The module works for a while, then stops querying
the HVAC system for information. This can happen in a few hours after
boot, or as long as a few days. But eventually, it happens. The
obvious result is that displayed data becomes stale.
When this occurs, if I do something to change the state of the system
(put a zone in HOLD mode, say), then the module will start communicating
again. Until it stops again at some later time.
Things I have tried to resolve this:
1. First occurred on PRO2. Upgraded to PRO3, no change.
2. Modified code to run in separate "slot" of PRO3 (as a separate
program). No change.
3. Put the code on a QM-RMC running older (v3) firmware. No change.
4. Went to Carrier to report the problem, they said Crestron supports
the module.

Worked with Crestron. This is ongoing, no solution (yet). I did get a
BETA version (v2.3, not on the WWW site yet), but this occurs as well.
I believe Crestron verified that they can replicate the problem, but
there is no solution as of yet.
I did recently upgrade to the Infinity Touch control, which (presumably)
allows me to use the Crestron Infinity Touch module (although, with the
same SAM board, the old module works perfectly). I can try that if
folks are having better luck with that.
Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks so much!
/Jeff

You've seen other apps for the iPad that work like that?

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "Jonny" <ComeAlive@...> wrote:

I just don't understand why the app can't just be free and the license
purchased from the dealer like everyone else under the sun.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On

Behalf

Of rogiervs
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 7:21 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Crestron for iPad





I set up a few pages in Mobile Pro to get them started.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,

"RobK"

<fooguy89@ <mailto:fooguy89@> > wrote:

I don't really understand. How have they paid for iPad functionality in

their system already?

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,

"rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:

That's not true, these 30 iPads will not be on the same Apple ID. I

don't mind my customers paying $99 for the iPad app, but think that
customers that have paid for iPad functionality in their system should

not

have to pay twice. The explanation is techy, communication to customers
should always be solution driven imo.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>

,

"amdtech2000" <jack.kolesar@> wrote:

For $99? Hell if they have 1 iPad it is $99. If they have 30

iPads, it

is $99. Sounds like a non-issue. You have a multiple factor of that

invested

in redesigning the panels.

Could be worse. AMX is over $700 PER DEVICE because they use a

licensing system and the customer doesn't buy the app (it's free). They

buy

a license from YOU. That is a lot tougher to explain but is still WAY
cheaper than buying an AMX/Crestron touch panel.

Jack

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>

,

"rogiervs" <rogier@> wrote:

Hey guys, am I the only one who finds it hard to explain to my

customers who bought the Mobile Pro app recently that if they want to
upgrade their experience they need to purchase the upgrade for another

$99?

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