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Can't believe I'm going to say this but Studio actually does this well. It lets you have two core3UI designer tabs open and you can drag each onto a different monitor if you like.

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On 2013-08-14, at 8:03 AM, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:

Yeah, the snapshot/image editor bit is how I've been rolling. :/ It's "kinda" close?

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

Not that it really helps, but what I typically do is open Project #1, expand out the project tree, and use SnagIt to capture the (scrolling) workspace window... I then print it out and run down it with a highlighter.

Or if you want to be green open it in your favorite image editor and run the eraser across each line.

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440-449-1106 I:
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Comparing VTPro projects


Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references, and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip




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sweet. Thanks a lot Chip!

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@> wrote:

1 - There is a tech note that goes into this in more depth on Crestron's site, but it basically involves setting up port rules on the router to allow connections from the outside to come in. Depending on the router, you can usually set the iPad to always attempt to use the external address, so the same connection profile will work whether you're on the internal LAN or truly outside.


2 - follows 1 pretty closely. You don't need to change anything on the processor - just rules in the router to let you "dial in" from the outside on port 41794. When it's properly set up, you just need to point Toolbox to the external IP address, and the router will direct the request to the processor.

3 - As long as you have the app running on the iPad, use the Toolbox System Info tool to connect to it. You'll have the option to load a project to it, just like it was any other touch panel.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "daniel.alephmatic" <daniel@> wrote:

I know this has probably been discussed before, but I couldn't find it. I've got a couple questions:

1. How do you setup a processor and router to enable access with an iPad externally for control?

2. Ho do you setup the processor and router so that I can remotely load updated programs directly onto the processor without being on-site?

3. Last question, How do you load a VT Pro file onto an iPad locally, so it doesn't have to download from processor every time.

Thanks!

1 - There is a tech note that goes into this in more depth on Crestron's site, but it basically involves setting up port rules on the router to allow connections from the outside to come in. Depending on the router, you can usually set the iPad to always attempt to use the external address, so the same connection profile will work whether you're on the internal LAN or truly outside.


2 - follows 1 pretty closely. You don't need to change anything on the processor - just rules in the router to let you "dial in" from the outside on port 41794. When it's properly set up, you just need to point Toolbox to the external IP address, and the router will direct the request to the processor.

3 - As long as you have the app running on the iPad, use the Toolbox System Info tool to connect to it. You'll have the option to load a project to it, just like it was any other touch panel.

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "daniel.alephmatic" <daniel@> wrote:

I know this has probably been discussed before, but I couldn't find it. I've got a couple questions:

1. How do you setup a processor and router to enable access with an iPad externally for control?

2. Ho do you setup the processor and router so that I can remotely load updated programs directly onto the processor without being on-site?

3. Last question, How do you load a VT Pro file onto an iPad locally, so it doesn't have to download from processor every time.

Thanks!

My problems usually wind up being unexplained reboots/memory leaks for some
reason. Turning off HVAC and security control for a week to see if it
spontaneously reboots again is usually incompatible with retaining the
customer's business...


On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 8:51 AM, eagrubbs <eagrubbs@...> wrote:

"TB rarely addresses programming issues in my experience except to tell me
to comment out half the program and see if the problem goes away."

Hahaha. And that was after being on the phone for an hour with them too.
Been there and learned just to figure it out, it will be faster. But you
already know that. I have learned that the more you program, you learn when
to call and when not to call TB based on the problem you are having.

BTW. How does commenting it out fix it? That is a, I have no idea what the
problem is answer.



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Jeremy Weatherford

Hey guys, am I the only one who finds it hard to explain to my customers who bought the Mobile Pro app recently that if they want to upgrade their experience they need to purchase the upgrade for another $99?

Can't believe I'm going to say this but Studio actually does this well. It lets you have two core3UI designer tabs open and you can drag each onto a different monitor if you like.

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On 2013-08-14, at 8:03 AM, "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:

Yeah, the snapshot/image editor bit is how I've been rolling. :/ It's "kinda" close?

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

Not that it really helps, but what I typically do is open Project #1, expand out the project tree, and use SnagIt to capture the (scrolling) workspace window... I then print it out and run down it with a highlighter.

Or if you want to be green open it in your favorite image editor and run the eraser across each line.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440-449-1106 I:
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Comparing VTPro projects


Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references, and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip




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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

"TB rarely addresses programming issues in my experience except to tell me
to comment out half the program and see if the problem goes away."

Hahaha. And that was after being on the phone for an hour with them too.
Been there and learned just to figure it out, it will be faster. But you
already know that. I have learned that the more you program, you learn when
to call and when not to call TB based on the problem you are having.

BTW. How does commenting it out fix it? That is a, I have no idea what the
problem is answer.



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Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the
Database area.
Yahoo!
Groups Links

Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references, and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip

Next to that, a project with up to two pages can be used in the free
version, any more pages and you have to pay. So my customer who buys a
house full of Crestron must pay for the app, where a customer doing just
one room gets it for free. What's that, a reversed incentive program?

You probably can use enable join and visibility join to do the trick. you
will do a lot of working time to prevent your client paying 99$ for the
apps.

What is better the apps or working for free?

my 2 cents.



{Paf}


2013/8/14 rogiervs <rogier@...>

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My customer bought the app like 2 months ago, me not knowing about the
upgrade being a new app. I was actually waiting for the upgrade to do my
final programming.
It's not like buying a new physical panel, the physical panel stays the
same. You and I know the panel file is different, a customer doesn't care
about that.
Next to that, a project with up to two pages can be used in the free
version, any more pages and you have to pay. So my customer who buys a
house full of Crestron must pay for the app, where a customer doing just
one room gets it for free. What's that, a reversed incentive program?


--- In Crestron@..., "Edward J. Mana" <emana@...> wrote:

The panel file is different, right?

This is no different than someone upgrading a physical panel with the

exception it is several thousand cheaper.

The graphics are different and the app is different.

From a software standpoint, look at MS Office. Upgrades there are

typically paid for, right?

Edward J. Mana
Technologist

Technology On Demand, Inc.

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Yeah, the snapshot/image editor bit is how I've been rolling. :/ It's "kinda" close?

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

Not that it really helps, but what I typically do is open Project #1, expand out the project tree, and use SnagIt to capture the (scrolling) workspace window... I then print it out and run down it with a highlighter.

Or if you want to be green open it in your favorite image editor and run the eraser across each line.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440-449-1106 I:
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Comparing VTPro projects


Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references, and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip




------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

Not that it really helps, but what I typically do is open Project #1, expand out the project tree, and use SnagIt to capture the (scrolling) workspace window... I then print it out and run down it with a highlighter.

Or if you want to be green open it in your favorite image editor and run the eraser across each line.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Silver)
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 F: 440-449-1106 I:
Crestron Services Provider

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of Chip
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 9:38 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Comparing VTPro projects


Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references, and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip




------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links

Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two projects where I
want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references, and the Workspace window just
doesn't help...

- Chip

Anyone else wish you could launch two instances of VTPro? I have two projects where I want to A/B the list of subpages and subpage references, and the Workspace window just doesn't help...

- Chip