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Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

 

Erm.... Maybe not....

When it wasn't working I suddenly remembered reading something about putting it in debug mode but just realised that that was for SammyGo. (which I have not actually applied)

Will switch it back....

--- In Crestron@..., "Chip" <cfm@...> wrote:


Was "debug" called out somewhere in the docs? I don't believe you want that. I haven't worked with one in a while, so I don't remember what the other options are. "Uart" comes to mind...

- Chip


--- In Crestron@..., "grumpy_cake" <crestron@> wrote:

Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me through this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a bit so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may not work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram in the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV responds to nothing¡­

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

 

Hmmm.... The main reason I was doing this was to try and make it a bit more reliable than the IR!

--- In Crestron@..., "Matt" <asmlw29@...> wrote:

For what its worth, I eventually got EX-Link working, but it was flaky at best. I was only using it for power and switching, and it worked about 70-80% of the time.

Since I was using DM products, I used the CEC codes and they are working great!


--- In Crestron@..., Ray Jain <rjain@> wrote:

One thing about Samsung I have noticed is rs-232 or IR you have to first turn the TV on or off woth a remote to get control over the display.

---------------------------------------
Ray Jain, Junior Programmer
(832) 618-9672
rjain@<mailto:rjain@>

SUMMIT INTEGRATION SYSTEMS

On Apr 28, 2013, at 6:27 PM, "grumpy_cake" <crestron@<mailto:crestron@>> wrote:



Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me through this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a bit so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may not work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram in the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV responds to nothing?€?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: How would you parse this data?

 

Hi Matt,

I'd lean towards a state machine as (personal opinion) I think they make for nice readable code, and easy to debug, with less repetition of "get this but, get the next bit, get the next bit..." where those hard-to-spot typos can creep in.

It takes a bit more thinking time though (to plan the various states and transitions), so you have to decide if that's worthwhile effort, or a quick (and possible dirtier) solution is best.

Like anything though - the more you do, the faster you get, and I'm very "pro" visual thinking, so I tend to sketch out a SM diagram on paper first. That makes implementing the solution almost automatic.

Go on... State Machines rule... do it... ;-)

ATB,
Ol

--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@...> wrote:

Thanks OP, that's exactly what I mean, is it worth the time to do that vs. just using remove. I know what you mean though...

The attenuation is taken as a string, and will have a space at the end, which isn't critical for me. But yes, if I wanted an integer I would have to check the first byte to see if it's 0x2D and then either -ATOI or just ATOI the group.

--- In Crestron@..., "olly_penguin" <oliver.hall@> wrote:

Hi Matt,

That looks like a classic candidate for a state machine.

I.e. rather that attempt to parse a complete message in one mouthful, implement a routine that eats numbers, delimited by white space or the lf/cr.

Lf/cr resets the state machine and spits out your interesting data, and for each "number" you maintain a couple of state variables (data chunk, sub element).

And Atoi won't work on negative numbers will it?

Sorry this is a bit brief/vague, but I hate typing on my phone :)
All the best,
Ol

--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@> wrote:

Yeah, right, the string is not always the same, like I said, the attenuation value can be from 1 to 4 bytes long, for each channel. I was thinking of getting the LEN of the attenuation data, then MID the string based on that but seems more work than the removes anyway.

--- In Crestron@..., "jrw_96" <jrw_96@> wrote:

Use a buffer and collect everything in said buffer. Then just break it down as necessary. Only if the incoming strings are predictable and/or the end of the string is always &#92;x0d&#92;x0a...

If the above is true then this should be gravy for you. It's when you do NOT have set points (delimiter(s) and actual sub-headers differentiating the substring/channel info) [always seems to be my case with crc's and what not] that you have to wonder "is this really worth it" imo...

JRW

--- In Crestron@..., "matt_rasmussen_2000" <mjrtoo@> wrote:

Here's the string

0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -44 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 -27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 -26 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0&#92;x0d&#92;x0a

The first three 0's are status of the device itself, then the next group of 9 (not including spaces) are individual channel data. So channel 1 = 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
channel 2 = -44 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
channel 3 = -27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1
channel 4 = -26 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

the first set of chars before the first space can be 0...-100, all the other data is a single byte.

My method is using REMOVE statements like below
status1 = ATOI(REMOVE("&#92;x20", rx$);
status2 = ATOI(REMOVE("&#92;x20", rx$);
status3 = ATOI(REMOVE("&#92;x20", rx$);

Attenuation[1] = REMOVE("&#92;x20", rx$);
ch1Clip[1] = ATOI(REMOVE("&#92;x20", rx$);
etc.,

all the way through the string. Not sure if it's even worth going through breaking up the string into channel groups and working on it that way. What do you think, splitting hairs?


Internet Radio - Control Via Touchpanels

tomasogmor
 

Hi,

Am looking to find a solution to get Internet Radio (for multi-room audio) controlled from the room touchpanels.

At Present we are using Rasberry Pi's running XBMC as the sources for the Crestron Multi-Room amps (2 x C2N-AMP-4x100) the Touchpanels range from TPS-4L's to TPMC-8X and a TSW-750. Running with a MC2E Processor.

I have the Crestron XBMC Module Running and it's fine for browsing MP3's etc. in the Library. But I cannot get the touchanels to control any of the Radio add-ons.

Is there any other way anyone can think of doing this, without have to purchase an Adagio system or something.

It doesn't have to be XBMC, I just want the user to be able to pick On-Line radio stations from the ouchpanel.

Thanks a mil,

Tomas


Re: Wireless battery powered wall mounted keypad?

 

Nice! I'm in the UK though, and the form factor is US, also voltage is 110 to 125.

--- In Crestron@..., "Block-O-Matic" <michael@...> wrote:


www.adhocelectronics.com for EnOcean products. Check out the wireless light switches. They don't need batteries ever- electricity is generated by the button press and release. I have several of them at home and they work great. There are several receivers to choose from including relay outputs and rs232. I have a module I can post if you need it.

You can find some more selection on amazon. Leviton is oem'ing the product and have some other products that are interesting. Anything EnOcean is compatible.

Mb


Re: Wireless battery powered wall mounted keypad?

 

Good one - I've not heard of that - I like the idea of pulling the internals out and attaching to a nicer keypad.

Didn't come up with anything on a quick google - have you got any details of the Crestron RF Hack for this??

--- In Crestron@..., "Kris" <kris.k@...> wrote:


Urc kp900 using the Crestron rf hack?
--- In Crestron@..., "Mark" <access@> wrote:


cant communicate with the system

thabith
 

when i connect with crestron tool bo it shows the system with this error log .

System log:

1. Notice: System startup: CslaveAV2 Cntrl Eng [v4.007.0004 (Mar 05 2012), #0890237E]
TimeStamp: 03:15:15 3-20-00 UpTime: 0 days 00:00:03.22 Task: IdleTask
Total Errors Logged = 1
End of System log

and i cant send program and vision pro design to module when i select it it shows message as the device does not support the required capabilities for the dialog to function .

my system is AV2 .


Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

Matt
 

For what its worth, I eventually got EX-Link working, but it was flaky at best. I was only using it for power and switching, and it worked about 70-80% of the time.

Since I was using DM products, I used the CEC codes and they are working great!

--- In Crestron@..., Ray Jain <rjain@...> wrote:

One thing about Samsung I have noticed is rs-232 or IR you have to first turn the TV on or off woth a remote to get control over the display.

---------------------------------------
Ray Jain, Junior Programmer
(832) 618-9672
rjain@...<mailto:rjain@...>

SUMMIT INTEGRATION SYSTEMS

On Apr 28, 2013, at 6:27 PM, "grumpy_cake" <crestron@...<mailto:crestron@...>> wrote:



Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me through this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a bit so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may not work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram in the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV responds to nothing?€?

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

Chip
 

Was "debug" called out somewhere in the docs? I don't believe you want that. I haven't worked with one in a while, so I don't remember what the other options are. "Uart" comes to mind...

- Chip

--- In Crestron@..., "grumpy_cake" <crestron@...> wrote:

Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me through this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a bit so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may not work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram in the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV responds to nothing¡­

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

Ray Jain
 

One thing about Samsung I have noticed is rs-232 or IR you have to first turn the TV on or off woth a remote to get control over the display.

---------------------------------------
Ray Jain, Junior Programmer
(832) 618-9672
rjain@...<mailto:rjain@...>

SUMMIT INTEGRATION SYSTEMS

On Apr 28, 2013, at 6:27 PM, "grumpy_cake" <crestron@...<mailto:crestron@...>> wrote:



Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me through this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a bit so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may not work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram in the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV responds to nothing¡­

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: Tesla Model S

bill_heil
 

Anyone take a crack at this? I am trying to figure out an approach here as well.

--- In Crestron@..., "jared_shapiro@..." <shapirja@...> wrote:

So i have a client that currently owns a Tesla Model S. Hes a tech junky and loves his iPhone app that controls his car. I thought it would be pretty cool if I could incorporate some of those controls into his touch panel. Anyone ever tried this?


Samsung UE55ES7000 - EX-Link

 

Hi,

I hope someone can have some patience and spoon feed me through this as I have sat here for hours and have got nowhere. I am guessing a bit so please let me know if I am doing something stupid.

Firstly this may all be down to me using a module that may not work as I can't find my TV.

I have a: UE55ES7000
Closest I can find is the UN55ES8000

I've made up a cable for EX-LINK control using the diagram in the module pdf

(integrated_partner_modules/help_files/959/samsung_un55es8000_v1_0_help.pdf)

Tested cable with multi-meter, seems fine.

I have set the value of the RS232 mode to Debug.

Tried a basic test with the module set up like this:



I'm getting nothing in debugger on Samsung_Rx$ and the TV responds to nothing¡­

Any help appreciated.

Thanks.


Re: Pleasant surprise with masterinstaller today.

 

Its Sunday, not many people online at Crestron :)

--- In Crestron@..., "Easton" <easton.altree@...> wrote:

I opened MasterInstaller today to update a few things. I was shocked at how fast the downloads occurred. I had a D3 template file that was 285meg, Crestron Database 152meg, and Toolbox 67meg. All 3 were done downloading within 90 seconds. This is a significant departure from anything I've seen in the last 9 years of downloading from there.


Pleasant surprise with masterinstaller today.

 

I opened MasterInstaller today to update a few things. I was shocked at how fast the downloads occurred. I had a D3 template file that was 285meg, Crestron Database 152meg, and Toolbox 67meg. All 3 were done downloading within 90 seconds. This is a significant departure from anything I've seen in the last 9 years of downloading from there.


Re: Discovery of idoc issue.

 

the IP in the table IP if from the Master processor (your system, for ex,
adagio) and the IP ID is the ID assigned to the CenIdoc in the program.
If the adagio cant find the cen idoc, check if the adagio is in the same
subnet (for ex. 192.168.0.100)

_____

De: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] En nombre de
jimathome80@...
Enviado el: s¨¢bado, 27 de abril de 2013 14:28
Para: Crestron@...
Asunto: [Crestron] Re: Discovery of idoc issue.






I have now made a connection to the idoc via serial cable and then by using
the toolbox device tree view and the correct com port.
I then right click on the idoc device and select functions.... Where do I go
from here to make this device discoverable via the composer wizard.
If I select Ethernet addressing it shows IP address as 192.168.0.4 with dhcp
not ticked.
Or if I select ip table setup it shows me ...
Ip Id 05. IP address 192.168.000.002
What and where do I need to enter this info
I've gone back into the adagio composer and made the idoc ipid 05 as it
originally said ip id 03 here then what should I do next?

Thanks to anybody that can point me in the right direction

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"jimathome80@..." <jimathome80@...> wrote:

I've not managed to set IP address yet. I have serial to rj11 cable from
pc to idoc and then using view port select the same connection that I
originally used to find IP address of aads then I run the wizard but the
next screen shows a yellow dot next to idoc saying that's its not
discovered! Could the com port setting have changed on my pc?

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> , Phil
Bridges <gravityhammer@> wrote:

Have you set an IP address in the iDoc? IIRC, you have to do that
manually
using the supplied serial cable.


On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 9:22 AM, jimathome80@ <
jimathome80@> wrote:

**


Hi
Can anyone help?
I'm trying to setup a simple system of an 1 x aads 1 x tps4l and 1 x
idoc
in adagio composer/system builder.
The problem I'm having is I'm unable to see the idoc when I use the
device
discovery wizard. I've set up ip communications between the aads and
then
crestnet commutation with the tps4l on an I'd of 03 but it asks for
the
serial number of idoc?
All equipment is connected to my router what am I missing or doing
wrong.
Sorry in advance for the basic question...



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Re: Touchpanel control from

 

Correction, this is more along the lines of Neil's suggestion, only using buffers on the output, as opposed to a bunch of ANDs.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@...> wrote:

I thought this sounded like a fun exercise, so I worked something up using Robbie's method mentioned above.

I broke it down into x and y coordinates for each button, tracking the value with analog signals. Pressing right/left will increment/decrement the x coordinate, and pressing down/up will increment/decrement the y coordinate. Using the Numeric Keypad symbol allows the analogs to wrap around in either direction.

Then, I took the x,y coordinates and converted them back to digitals for feedback of the grid of buttons on the panel using a pair of EQUs feeding into 3 buffers.

This is scalable to practically any uniform grid size consisting of x columns and y rows.

Here's a link to a .smw file along with a screen shot of the logic flow.





--- In Crestron@..., "rlf79cm" <rlf79cm@> wrote:

That sounds great! A little beyond my Simpl abilities at the moment but I'm going to start trawling through the Help files straight away!

Cheers


--- In Crestron@..., Davis Whitehurst <whitehurstd@> wrote:

How about an analog inc for left/right that increments by 1 and analog inc for up/down that increments by 3. Run them into a sum. Add conditional logic for a wrap around effect. Obviously there would be a lot of buffers, ors and nors, but I think it could be done.

If value = 1.
Left sets it 9 for full wrap, or 3 if you just want to horizontal wrap
Right goes to increment
Down goes to increment
Up sets it 9 for full wrap, or 7 if you just want to vertical wrap
If value = 2.
Left goes to inrement
Right goes to increment
Down goes to increment
Up sets it 9 for full wrap, or 8 if you just want to vertical wrap

ETC...


Davis


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Re: Touchpanel control from

 

I thought this sounded like a fun exercise, so I worked something up using Robbie's method mentioned above.

I broke it down into x and y coordinates for each button, tracking the value with analog signals. Pressing right/left will increment/decrement the x coordinate, and pressing down/up will increment/decrement the y coordinate. Using the Numeric Keypad symbol allows the analogs to wrap around in either direction.

Then, I took the x,y coordinates and converted them back to digitals for feedback of the grid of buttons on the panel using a pair of EQUs feeding into 3 buffers.

This is scalable to practically any uniform grid size consisting of x columns and y rows.

Here's a link to a .smw file along with a screen shot of the logic flow.

--- In Crestron@..., "rlf79cm" <rlf79cm@...> wrote:

That sounds great! A little beyond my Simpl abilities at the moment but I'm going to start trawling through the Help files straight away!

Cheers


--- In Crestron@..., Davis Whitehurst <whitehurstd@> wrote:

How about an analog inc for left/right that increments by 1 and analog inc for up/down that increments by 3. Run them into a sum. Add conditional logic for a wrap around effect. Obviously there would be a lot of buffers, ors and nors, but I think it could be done.

If value = 1.
Left sets it 9 for full wrap, or 3 if you just want to horizontal wrap
Right goes to increment
Down goes to increment
Up sets it 9 for full wrap, or 7 if you just want to vertical wrap
If value = 2.
Left goes to inrement
Right goes to increment
Down goes to increment
Up sets it 9 for full wrap, or 8 if you just want to vertical wrap

ETC...


Davis


________________________________

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(OT) ZigBee PAN Sniffing?

Brad Gibbs
 

Hi,

Does anyone have any experience with ZigBee PAN sniffing? I'd like to get codes for URC and / or RTI remotes to send signals directly to a BeagleBone or Arduino XBEE module for processing. I know WireShark has the ability to record the signals, but the hardware I've seen to capture them is $500. There is (was) a TI device that did the same thing for much less, but seems to be EOL'ed.

It might be possible to use an XBEE module connected directly to a PC's USB port, too. I'm still trying to get up to speed in this area. Just thought I'd check here before wasting more time Googling.

Thanks.

Brad


Re: Wireless battery powered wall mounted keypad?

 

www.adhocelectronics.com for EnOcean products. Check out the wireless light switches. They don't need batteries ever- electricity is generated by the button press and release. I have several of them at home and they work great. There are several receivers to choose from including relay outputs and rs232. I have a module I can post if you need it.

You can find some more selection on amazon. Leviton is oem'ing the product and have some other products that are interesting. Anything EnOcean is compatible.

Mb

--- In Crestron@..., "Mark" <access@...> wrote:

I've got a system with 4 zones of garden lighting which are controlled via Crestron primarily on Mobile & Mobile Pro G.

However, we need to fit a wall station of some description in a location where cabling is impossible to control them as well.

Something like a cameo keypad would be ideal, but they all need cabling of one sort or another (I know there's a battery powered infinet keypad on the cards, but it's not been released yet to my knowledge)

There is a Pro2 nearby, so I'm thinking of a battery powered wireless solution somehow connected to the versiport inputs of the Pro2 and go programatically from there.

Has anyone got any idea of any elegant hardware I could use?

Cheers.
Mark


Re: How would you parse this data?

 

Matt, What device is this, so we can think REALLY bad thoughts about its designer...

Chris K.......:)

It's a Lab Gruppen NLB-60E, there is a module on Crestron's site, but it's not even close to working correctly. The only thing I can think of is that the latest firmware drastically changed the command format, otherwise, the programmer was so high he couldn't comprehend anything. :)

I have 12 amps I need to monitor, so yeah, it's fun. :).