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Time Controlled Shutdown

wanderingpoet79
 

Is there anyway to shutdown a system time wise. For example I would like an MPS shutdown every night at exactly 1:00 am. What symbols would I need?


Thanks


Feliz Natal!

 

Merry Christmas for everybody!

Signed,
Rafael Costa
iPhone


Re: Crestron 2 series processor

 

Anything specific you are looking for? I have a cp2e plus some other stuff
I bought off a client that was going under.

Pat M


From: jbudz1977 <jbudz1977@...>
Reply-To: <Crestron@...>
Date: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:15 AM
To: <Crestron@...>
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Crestron 2 series processor






I would look at Ebay, lots of nice deals there.

--- In Crestron@... <mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> ,
"steve_advanced" <maverick2112@...> wrote:

I am looking for a used 2 series processor to be used to drive some lighting
at my house. I f anyone has a unit laying around an is in need of some quick
cash, drop me a noe and we can discuss.

Thanks

Steve








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Re: Crosspoints..... Commerical Guy trying to do first Resi

 

Thanks a lot Neil.

I think I am going in the right direction, but I need to expand what I have.

I have one ccross from the kitchen panel connecting to multiple ecrosses.

Splitting it up to a ccross per av logic group and ccrosses for lighting, havc, etc., might do the trick.

I'm just glad I don't have to rewrite everything, just expand what I've done so far.

Thanks again, I might post again after some testing tonight.
Sean

--- In Crestron@..., Neil Dorin <neildorin@...> wrote:

You best bet is to use parallel sets of crosspoints a for different kinds of logic (AV, lighting, HVAC, etc.)

That means a separate ECCONNECT for each set of crosspoints. I typically use a CCROSS for each type of logic with its own ECCONNECT and as many ECROSSes as devices/zones/rooms as the CCROSS should control.

For grouping, I find It best to use a "group" ECROSS that handles the FB back to the CCROSS and then use either a subset of crosspoints or buffers to have devices/rooms/zones follow the "group" ECROSS.

While you can have a one to many relationship it's difficult to manage feedback correctly as all of ECROSS FB will get jammed together on the CCROSS they all connect to. .

Also, when you have undefined FB joins on an ECROSS they are forced to 0 on connect effectively clearing your feedback on the CCROSS.

Keeping parallel logic separated avoids these issues. I only allow a 1 to 1 CCROSS to ECROSS relationship, but because you can have an AV CCROSS, lighting CCROSS, HVAC CCROSS, etc you can e controlling the theatre AV, games room lighting and basement HVAC all at the same time with correct feedback.

-Neil Dorin

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-12-24, at 11:35 AM, "Sean" <seanzombie56@...> wrote:

I'm trying to figure out if my issues are in my theory, programming, or both.

I use crosspoints well in a one to one situation. My question is, can I use one ccross to connect to a few ecross connections with fb staying along the way.

My system seems to work fine controlling devices, but when I connect to another ecross, I lose FB from my original ecross.

Hope this explanation helps....

From my main room, I connect to the theater via ecross for lights, etc., while keeping that connection alive, I connect to a blu-ray player via ecross. Now my commands seem to work, but what happens is....when I connect to the second ecross, my display fb drops and only comes back when I select theater again.

In watching simpl debugger, ids dont change or get disconnected from my "room ccross" after selecting blu-ray.

Does that fb get dropped when connecting to another ecross without fb across that join, or is there something missing in my program?

A side note, volume seems to stay when connecting from a room with volume to a room without volume, so I assumed fb would stay if nothing is on that attached join.

Happy Holidays, thanks in advance for any help.

Sean


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Re: Crosspoints..... Commerical Guy trying to do first Resi

 

You best bet is to use parallel sets of crosspoints a for different kinds of logic (AV, lighting, HVAC, etc.)

That means a separate ECCONNECT for each set of crosspoints. I typically use a CCROSS for each type of logic with its own ECCONNECT and as many ECROSSes as devices/zones/rooms as the CCROSS should control.

For grouping, I find It best to use a "group" ECROSS that handles the FB back to the CCROSS and then use either a subset of crosspoints or buffers to have devices/rooms/zones follow the "group" ECROSS.

While you can have a one to many relationship it's difficult to manage feedback correctly as all of ECROSS FB will get jammed together on the CCROSS they all connect to. .

Also, when you have undefined FB joins on an ECROSS they are forced to 0 on connect effectively clearing your feedback on the CCROSS.

Keeping parallel logic separated avoids these issues. I only allow a 1 to 1 CCROSS to ECROSS relationship, but because you can have an AV CCROSS, lighting CCROSS, HVAC CCROSS, etc you can e controlling the theatre AV, games room lighting and basement HVAC all at the same time with correct feedback.

-Neil Dorin
On 2012-12-24, at 11:35 AM, "Sean" <seanzombie56@...> wrote:

I'm trying to figure out if my issues are in my theory, programming, or both.

I use crosspoints well in a one to one situation. My question is, can I use one ccross to connect to a few ecross connections with fb staying along the way.

My system seems to work fine controlling devices, but when I connect to another ecross, I lose FB from my original ecross.

Hope this explanation helps....

From my main room, I connect to the theater via ecross for lights, etc., while keeping that connection alive, I connect to a blu-ray player via ecross. Now my commands seem to work, but what happens is....when I connect to the second ecross, my display fb drops and only comes back when I select theater again.

In watching simpl debugger, ids dont change or get disconnected from my "room ccross" after selecting blu-ray.

Does that fb get dropped when connecting to another ecross without fb across that join, or is there something missing in my program?

A side note, volume seems to stay when connecting from a room with volume to a room without volume, so I assumed fb would stay if nothing is on that attached join.

Happy Holidays, thanks in advance for any help.

Sean


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Crosspoints..... Commerical Guy trying to do first Resi

 

I'm trying to figure out if my issues are in my theory, programming, or both.

I use crosspoints well in a one to one situation. My question is, can I use one ccross to connect to a few ecross connections with fb staying along the way.

My system seems to work fine controlling devices, but when I connect to another ecross, I lose FB from my original ecross.


Hope this explanation helps....

From my main room, I connect to the theater via ecross for lights, etc., while keeping that connection alive, I connect to a blu-ray player via ecross. Now my commands seem to work, but what happens is....when I connect to the second ecross, my display fb drops and only comes back when I select theater again.

In watching simpl debugger, ids dont change or get disconnected from my "room ccross" after selecting blu-ray.

Does that fb get dropped when connecting to another ecross without fb across that join, or is there something missing in my program?

A side note, volume seems to stay when connecting from a room with volume to a room without volume, so I assumed fb would stay if nothing is on that attached join.

Happy Holidays, thanks in advance for any help.

Sean


Re: Share gateways between programs on 3-Series?

 

The built in gateway can be shared; each program can reference it's own set of RF ID's (can't use the same RF ID between programs).

External gateways are unique to a given program. Can't be shared (No Cresnet or Ethernet devices can be shared).

--- In Crestron@..., "jcdigitalmethod" <j.j.cunningham@...> wrote:

Can I share gateways between programs in 3 series processors?

Scenario 1: (2) MLX-3's (each running on different programs in the MC3)from the built in gateway, with different RF-IDs.

Scenario 2: (2) TPS-6X's (each running on different programs in the MC3)from a single shared CEN-HPRFGW, with different RF-IDs.


Share gateways between programs on 3-Series?

 

Can I share gateways between programs in 3 series processors?

Scenario 1: (2) MLX-3's (each running on different programs in the MC3)from the built in gateway, with different RF-IDs.

Scenario 2: (2) TPS-6X's (each running on different programs in the MC3)from a single shared CEN-HPRFGW, with different RF-IDs.


Re: Simpl Windows Freezes

 

Make sure you have the latest released firmware for the DMPS-300 and the latest released databases as well.


John Pavlik
Crestron Electronics, Inc.
Director, Architecture & Design

From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of touchpanelprogrammer
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2012 8:17 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Re: Simpl Windows Freezes



Does anyone know if the freezing issues have been fixed? I have been programming quite a lot of DMPS-300 and I am noticing long lengths of freezing when opening, compiling, saving etc.

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, "matt57585758" <crestron5758@...<mailto:crestron5758@...>> wrote:

We have also discovered the freeze issues when working with the DMPS-300. We have concluded that it's caused by the OOTBF. I've also noticed that back in the day when working with the MPS-300 (QM), Simpl would also freeze since that also had OOTBF.

Matt

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, "Bobis" <msnsugerpurjo@> wrote:

Is it only when working with DPMS-300?

Have had similar problems with my computer with programs freezing for some time.
After removing all the printers I had installed (2 on network) i cut the coffebreak from 15s to about 3s

--- In Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

It's the DPMS-300.

SIMPL Windows goes into "take a coffee break mode" on open, save, autosave, and if you're lucky even on close.

It may be my PTSD but every time it does that I start to worry about how current the .ASV...

If you're feeling lucky, you can turn Autosave off but that is at your own peril.

Various people at various levels of Crestron have been promising a fix "soon" since October.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of wretaudio
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:11 AM
To: Crestron@...<mailto:Crestron%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Crestron] Simpl Windows Freezes

I have started working on my first DMPS-300 Simpl Windows project. While I am not at all a fan of this piece of hardware, I have started having Simpl Windows freeze up for several seconds and then start working again. Just wondering if this is something to do with the latest version of Simpl, or is this particular to a Simpl project involving the DMPS-300?



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Re: Crestron 2 series processor

 

I would look at Ebay, lots of nice deals there.

--- In Crestron@..., "steve_advanced" <maverick2112@...> wrote:

I am looking for a used 2 series processor to be used to drive some lighting at my house. I f anyone has a unit laying around an is in need of some quick cash, drop me a noe and we can discuss.

Thanks

Steve


Crestron 2 series processor

steve_advanced
 

I am looking for a used 2 series processor to be used to drive some lighting at my house. I f anyone has a unit laying around an is in need of some quick cash, drop me a noe and we can discuss.

Thanks

Steve


Re: Simpl Windows Freezes

 

Does anyone know if the freezing issues have been fixed? I have been programming quite a lot of DMPS-300 and I am noticing long lengths of freezing when opening, compiling, saving etc.

--- In Crestron@..., "matt57585758" <crestron5758@...> wrote:

We have also discovered the freeze issues when working with the DMPS-300. We have concluded that it's caused by the OOTBF. I've also noticed that back in the day when working with the MPS-300 (QM), Simpl would also freeze since that also had OOTBF.

Matt

--- In Crestron@..., "Bobis" <msnsugerpurjo@> wrote:

Is it only when working with DPMS-300?

Have had similar problems with my computer with programs freezing for some time.
After removing all the printers I had installed (2 on network) i cut the coffebreak from 15s to about 3s

--- In Crestron@..., Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@> wrote:

It's the DPMS-300.

SIMPL Windows goes into "take a coffee break mode" on open, save, autosave, and if you're lucky even on close.

It may be my PTSD but every time it does that I start to worry about how current the .ASV...

If you're feeling lucky, you can turn Autosave off but that is at your own peril.

Various people at various levels of Crestron have been promising a fix "soon" since October.

--
Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Programmer (Silver)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
V: 440.449.1100 x1107 | F: 440.449.1106 | I:
Crestron Authorized Independent Programmer


-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf Of wretaudio
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 9:11 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Simpl Windows Freezes

I have started working on my first DMPS-300 Simpl Windows project. While I am not at all a fan of this piece of hardware, I have started having Simpl Windows freeze up for several seconds and then start working again. Just wondering if this is something to do with the latest version of Simpl, or is this particular to a Simpl project involving the DMPS-300?



------------------------------------



Check out the Files area for useful modules, documents, and drivers.

A contact list of Crestron dealers and programmers can be found in the Database area.
Yahoo! Groups Links


Re: Ethernet Intersystem Communication question (yay!... right?)

 

Yes, this works without any problems.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of metdeathx
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 7:12 PM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Ethernet Intersystem Communication question (yay!...
right?)





In my personal system I have a MC3 that controls two rooms, each have some
"local" sources, and there are some shared sources (BDP-7000ES, Roku, analog
video switcher).

I'm thinking about adding a third room using a PMC3 and EIC, will that
actually work? I can add the EIC symbol to the PMC3 system, and to the MC3.
However, before I go about the ardous task of adding the handlers for those
sources to the EIC, has anyone done anything similar?

If so, any pitfalls I should look out for? I'm not likely to run 1000s of
symbols between the systems, just basic things like play/pause/stop, a few
feedback and interlock states for the shared devices.


Re: Suggestion for a 65" LED flatscreen with serial control

 

Samsung UN65ES8000

--- In Crestron@..., "stefuel2" <stefuel@...> wrote:

My 42" LG has it and the protocol works well enough. I want to put a 65" in the family room and would like serial for that also. I don't see any new ones that list that they have it even if it's there.
I don't think my LG listed a serial port. I discovered that when I took it out of the box.

Chip


Re: Using a C2N-IIF as a doorbell - problem with audio

 

Which DI box do you have?

Are you using a balanced output? How are you wiring that to an RCA?
Typically you'd tie - and ground (pins 1 & 3 in an XLR) together for the
RCA ground.

Chris
On Dec 23, 2012 4:48 PM, "mrtgilberty" <mrtgilbert@...> wrote:

**


I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell
speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the
C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the
audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a
Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going
through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd
sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK
+/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct
Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds
into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none
however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in
question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell
button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station
speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some
sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and
AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom



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Suggestion for a 65" LED flatscreen with serial control

 

My 42" LG has it and the protocol works well enough. I want to put a 65" in the family room and would like serial for that also. I don't see any new ones that list that they have it even if it's there.
I don't think my LG listed a serial port. I discovered that when I took it out of the box.

Chip


Re: Using a C2N-IIF as a doorbell - problem with audio

 

I would say start trouble shooting the audio playing first. Plug the output
Into something you know works to make sure it plays your wav then once that
is good then troubleshoot timing issues.

Nick

Sent from my iBerryRex. RAWR

On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:48 PM, mrtgilberty <mrtgilbert@...> wrote:



I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell
speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the
C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the
audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a
Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going
through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd
sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK
+/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct
Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds
into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none
however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in
question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell
button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station
speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some
sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and
AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom




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Re: Using a C2N-IIF as a doorbell - problem with audio

 

Yes. There is a delay. I just did this with AAE's instead of bipad but I
had to put 2 seconds of dead air at the beginning of my mp3. I played mine
off of an mc3.

Sent from my iBerryRex. RAWR

On Dec 23, 2012, at 5:48 PM, mrtgilberty <mrtgilbert@...> wrote:



I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell
speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the
C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the
audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a
Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going
through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd
sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK
+/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct
Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds
into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none
however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in
question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell
button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station
speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some
sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and
AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom




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Using a C2N-IIF as a doorbell - problem with audio

mrtgilberty
 

I'm using a C2N-IIF loaded with a WAV file to drive the local doorbell speaker of the C2N-IIF as well as feeding the speaker audio from the C2N-IIF back into the house into a BIPAD.

On my test bench this works fine, running into two amps to generate the audio, so the audio generates fine.

However when installed at the customer site, the local doorbell (a Holovision door entry system) plays the audio fine, however the audio going through the BIPAD doesn't work and makes a very quiet muffled 'odd sounding' noise.

The audio out from the C2N-IIF (via the Speaker outputs) - I have the SPK +/- wires going into the local speaker as well as feeding into a Direct Injection box to take the speaker level down to line level. This then feeds into one of the RCA stereo inputs of the BIPAD and into a AMPX.

I've adjusted the impedence of the Direct Injection box from full to none however I can't seem to get anything to work.

The levels of the AMPX are set to a sensible level and the rooms in question are 'activated' when the audio is playing after the doorbell button is pressed. The doorbell sound then plays on the local door-station speaker but not over the speakers in the house (ie via the BIPAD / AMP).

Could there be a delay in the AMPX turning on each zone, or is there some sort of incompatibility of using a WAV file to play through the BIPAD and AMPX? (I'm beginning to clutch at straws as to what could be wrong!)

Thanks

Tom


MTX-3 Rendering performance

 

Page rendering performance seems to be lacking, so I am looking at ways to make page flips faster.

To get this out of the way...I never use page transitions so that is not the problem.

I've noticed that graphics unfortunately seem to be the fastest way the MTX-3 can display a button. I can work with that if that is the best option. It's more work, but they look great visually and display almost instantly.

Buttons with aliased text created in VTPro render more slowly but look crappy because they are obviously ...aliased...ha.

Buttons with Anti-aliased text look good, but for me are unusable because they display so slowly. It's like watching text come up on a 300 baud modem connection to a BBS.

Did I get the above correct or is there something I am missing that will allow me use MTX-3 rendered text, look good and render quickly?

Thank you!