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Re: SystemBuilder / MC3 programming issues

 

Sorry, I can't resist jumping on this soap box, I really hate SB. I have had so many bad experiences with it, just like this one, I hope I never again have to touch it. I have been there with the customer wanting their stuff working and me going (after half a day on the phone with TB) sorry it is out of my control, their are issues with the compiler and crestron is trying to resolve it.(or some BS like that)I also have no idea when I can give you a functioning system, but I will call you as soon as I find out. I do not miss those days. Simpl may take longer than SB, but I can always fix what I have screwed up and get the system functioning for the customer.

--- In Crestron@..., "xylantech@..." <xti@...> wrote:

Anyone having multiple problems with trying to get SystemBuilder created programs for MC3's to work properly - or to even get two builds that have the same problems (instead of a fresh batch of problems with every new build) - should note that your efforts will be in vain.

Especially if you're using RSD's.

Stop. Your only choices (at the moment) are to create your programs in SIMPL, or abandon the MC3 and go back to a 2 Series processor.

Tech support has indicated to me that they have no timeline as to when this will be rectified. The number of issues they have to deal with to fix this indicates to me that this may take quite a while.

Go have a beer. It may not be good for you, but at least it's soothing.


Re: iPad and Animations and other questions..

 

If you want to make an iPad *work* like an iPad with Crestron software....


Don't use Crestron software :)


You're not going to be able to do it with Mobile Pro G, save yourself the grief and deploy Command Fusion, it will be far closer to what you're looking for than Mobile Pro G.

--- In Crestron@..., "waltonad0283" <waltonad0283@...> wrote:

Hey Guys, Am I missing something or is there not a way to do a page flip animation with the Crestron Mobile - or Mobile Pro? (slide in/out left right, fold in half vertical/horizontal, book page turn, zoom in/out from middle, you know, all the transitions we have come to know and love on the iphone. I have some projects that a bare minimum would look really good with some animations. Or better yet expanded gesture control

My personal cool thought - have a page flip effect like when changing screens on the iphone/ipad (left/Right gesture) that as you flips changes pages/sub pages, and when the user stops on a particular page, it activates/routes the video to the display.

Anyways, if I am missing something, please let me know.

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to access the built in keyboard, rather than having to create one myself. I would love to Skin an P-IpodV Doc search page to look like you were browsing your own iDevice.

Thanks for the help!!


Re: Cannot compile file

 

Make sure you don't have any of your modules in the folder where you have your program. The newest version of simpl seems to dislike modules that are in the job folder if they are also in your database folders.

--- In Crestron@..., "Audible Solutions" <crestronprogrammer.1@...> wrote:

The ush, usp and umc macros are all within the directories specificied in user preferences. Nonetheless, I am getting an error each time I try to compile that the compiler cannot locate the ush files. I've recompiled the usp. No difference.

Any suggestions?

TIA


Re: Controllable Sonos style iTunes media player

 

Autonomic has a client program called "Mirage Media Sync" that you would run on the PC's or Mac's that house the iTunes libraries that you would load music into.

(PS forgot to mention in my earlier post that Autonomic supports multiple iTunes music libraries, a rarely used but very cool feature)

I find that a single song updates within a few minutes at worst, and if you're importing a huge amount of data/songs it can take a little while, but it will do it without any outside intervention.

--- In Crestron@..., "floyd1212" <floyd1212@...> wrote:

Will the MMS-2 see the new content "as soon as they add an audio file in iTunes by any method?" Or do you have to tell the MMS-2 to re-index the library before it will see the new content?

Just as an FYI, you have to re-index the library on the Sonos before it will see the new content as well. This can be triggered manually through the Sonos interface, or can be setup to happen on a fixed schedule.



--- In Crestron@..., "wretaudio" <wretaudio@> wrote:

I am a little wary of the AppleTV route incase of a firmware update that kills the control functionality. If I need their MMS-2 box to make this work reliably, then that's fine.

--- In Crestron@..., "Ted" <ted_brincka@> wrote:

The Autonomics MMS-2 or their Apple TV module to control iTunes right from a PC.

--- In Crestron@..., "wretaudio" <wretaudio@> wrote:

Basically a hardware device that can go through a network to find and play music files in an iTunes library. Sonos player can do this, but they do not have any control features. I need to design a system for a cutover that as soon as they add an audio file in iTunes by any method, it is available to be played for a player that is controllable from a Crestron touch panel.

Thanks again for your help.

--- In Crestron@..., "Paul Cunningham" <paul.cunningham@> wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by "Sonos style" but the Autonomic MMS-2
sounds about right.

-----Original Message-----
From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On
Behalf Of wretaudio
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2012 8:19 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] Controllable Sonos style iTunes media player

Is there a Sonos style player out there that can play iTunes music files
that is RS-232 or IP controllable? All I need is to be able to play
audio files in one zone or area of a building.

Thanks.



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Re: CHV-TSTAT with Mini-split HVAC system

 

There's a Crestron module for the Mitsubishi GB-24 and GB-50 controllers, if one
of them can be used with that unit.

--- On Thursday, March 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Chris Anello wrote:

Thanks, found some of this info out...
It would be awesome to buy a $6K interface controller and $6K BMS for a
$2.5K mini-split, but i dont think even just one of these is a viable
option

--- In Crestron@..., "mrmondegreen" <mrmondegreen@...> wrote:

Some of the Mitsubishi units work with BACnet (which uses RS-485). I've
seen the protocol specification or a module on here (if you don't see it,
e-mail me), so you may be able to roll-your-own solution. Crestron also has
a specific device to interface with BACnet (GLS-BMA).

Chris W.

--- In Crestron@..., "Chris Anello" <chris.anello@> wrote:

Have a client with a pool house.
Stage one heating done with radiant from geothermal (same as system
in house where we currently use, but has geo cooling, too) Secondary
heating and first stage cooling are spec'd to be controlled by a Mitsubishi
MSZ/MUZ (MSZ-FE18NA indoor/MUZ-FE18NA outdoor) single-room mini-split heat
pump. The unit has an RF remote and optional wired control, but does not
use typical Tstat wiring (relays).
Has anyone dealt with controlling this via a Crestron CHV-TSTAT so
that the HVAC can be properly staged and controlled (they currently
have compteing heating sources.)

We have the option to replace the system with something if we know it
can be easily integrated. Anyone use anything like this (18,000 BTU) and
can control from Crestron.
Maybe even something that has another form of interface or com port
(RS232/485)

Any help would be appreciated.

-C


Re: Cannot compile file

goofy_1562
 

Try reinstallling Cross Compiler

--- In Crestron@..., "Audible Solutions" <crestronprogrammer.1@...> wrote:

The ush, usp and umc macros are all within the directories specificied in user preferences. Nonetheless, I am getting an error each time I try to compile that the compiler cannot locate the ush files. I've recompiled the usp. No difference.

Any suggestions?

TIA


Cannot compile file

 

The ush, usp and umc macros are all within the directories specificied in user preferences. Nonetheless, I am getting an error each time I try to compile that the compiler cannot locate the ush files. I've recompiled the usp. No difference.

Any suggestions?

TIA


How do you locate the projects folder in Simpl Windows?

 

Seem to have double databases and want to remove those that are in the projects folder. It seems as if my usrmacro folder has replicated itself within the projects module folder. I cannot locate this to remove the duplicate macros.

TIA.

Alan


Re: I need help with Windows 7 fonts please....

 

if you still have access to the old XP computer, just copy the fonts to a
thumb drive and move them over to your new computer font folder.



From: Crestron@... [mailto:Crestron@...] On Behalf
Of kaurindragan
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 9:18 AM
To: Crestron@...
Subject: [Crestron] I need help with Windows 7 fonts please....





I upgraded to Windows 7 from XP last week, and this weekend I noticed that
all my work in Vt-pro has some buttons in Hieroglyphics now...I figured that
most likely Windows 7 doesn't recognize the fonts it was written in, and
I'll have to download missing fonts and save them. At least I hope so, or
else I'll have to go over all the projects button by button.
Did anyone come across the issue before, and how to go about it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.


Re: Onsite HELP with Panasonic AW-HE50SN

 

You have to send to TCP/IP client something like this:

GET /cgi-bin/aw_cam?cmd=HZT&res=1 HTTP/1.1&#92;nHost:
192.168.0.6&#92;n&#92;n

Just read a post from Javier carefully...

Do you need to login to camera when you open the browser first time? If the answer is Yes, you have to add to headers an authorization - it is this part from Javier's headers: "Authorization: Basic YWRtaW4xOnBhbmFzb25pYw==" - of course this authorization string will not work for you.
This is one of the reasons You need to see what exactly is send by your browser to the camera. So it's time to run "Developer Tools" (Chrome) or HTTP HEADERS (Firefox) as has been said.

--- In Crestron@..., "serge" <sbgtech@...> wrote:

HI Javier,
I am am having the same issue as Brandon. I am sure I am close but just can't seem to get the camera to respond via the crestron connection. The commands are working in my browser. Not sure what I am missing.
The TCPIP client is set to the proper address, it is showing connected in debugger. But my commands don't seem to get thru.
Here is a sample command for the camera:



this string works in my browser but does not in my Serial I/O to my tcpip client.
Any words of wisdome or hint would help.

Thanks,
Serge
serge@...

--- In Crestron@..., "javiermazon_com" <javier@> wrote:

What you have to do is create a TCP/IP Client on your program with the IP of the camera to the port 80 and then capture the HTTP-HEADERS with some extension and send them as tx$ to the TCP/IP Symbol

In Firefox you have an HTTP HEADERS extension
In Chrome you have Developer Tools to inspect, under NETWORK, directly the HTTP queries. All you have to do is see what is the "command" sent from your browser to perform the desired action (Ex. Zoom, Pan, etc..) and copy that HTTP HEADER query, full to an SIO connected to the TCP/IP ts$.

If the HTTP HEADER requires more than one line (almost always) just copy all the lines in a single one and add "&#92;n" to each part that needs to be a different line.

For example, to turn on a Projector that has IP capabilities, I used:
"GET /cgi-bin/proj_ctl.cgi?key=video&lang=e&osd=on HTTP/1.1&#92;nHost: 10.1.133.21&#92;nConnection: keep-alive&#92;nAuthorization: Basic YWRtaW4xOnBhbmFzb25pYw==&#92;n&#92;n"

This is a real example, try experimenting with Firefox extensions or Chrome developer tools to capture what string triggers which action.

Best regards,

Javier Mazon
www.JavierMazon.com

--- In Crestron@..., "brandon" <brandonanchor@> wrote:

I am trying to control 4 Panasonic AW-HE50SN Camera's through IP communications. I talked to Panasonic and they said it could be done using a HTTP Protocol with a TCPIP Client on port 80
example: (power on)

I receive a 408 Request time out error.

What am i missing here?
I can send the control document if you need it.
I am on site and it is D Day as usual so some help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Brandon


Re: Onsite HELP with Panasonic AW-HE50SN

 

HI Javier,
I am am having the same issue as Brandon. I am sure I am close but just can't seem to get the camera to respond via the crestron connection. The commands are working in my browser. Not sure what I am missing.
The TCPIP client is set to the proper address, it is showing connected in debugger. But my commands don't seem to get thru.
Here is a sample command for the camera:



this string works in my browser but does not in my Serial I/O to my tcpip client.
Any words of wisdome or hint would help.

Thanks,
Serge
serge@...

--- In Crestron@..., "javiermazon_com" <javier@...> wrote:

What you have to do is create a TCP/IP Client on your program with the IP of the camera to the port 80 and then capture the HTTP-HEADERS with some extension and send them as tx$ to the TCP/IP Symbol

In Firefox you have an HTTP HEADERS extension
In Chrome you have Developer Tools to inspect, under NETWORK, directly the HTTP queries. All you have to do is see what is the "command" sent from your browser to perform the desired action (Ex. Zoom, Pan, etc..) and copy that HTTP HEADER query, full to an SIO connected to the TCP/IP ts$.

If the HTTP HEADER requires more than one line (almost always) just copy all the lines in a single one and add "&#92;n" to each part that needs to be a different line.

For example, to turn on a Projector that has IP capabilities, I used:
"GET /cgi-bin/proj_ctl.cgi?key=video&lang=e&osd=on HTTP/1.1&#92;nHost: 10.1.133.21&#92;nConnection: keep-alive&#92;nAuthorization: Basic YWRtaW4xOnBhbmFzb25pYw==&#92;n&#92;n"

This is a real example, try experimenting with Firefox extensions or Chrome developer tools to capture what string triggers which action.

Best regards,

Javier Mazon
www.JavierMazon.com

--- In Crestron@..., "brandon" <brandonanchor@> wrote:

I am trying to control 4 Panasonic AW-HE50SN Camera's through IP communications. I talked to Panasonic and they said it could be done using a HTTP Protocol with a TCPIP Client on port 80
example: (power on)

I receive a 408 Request time out error.

What am i missing here?
I can send the control document if you need it.
I am on site and it is D Day as usual so some help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Brandon


Re: iPad & camera video

Mark
 

thanks, i was looking for a mjpeg viewer, didn't even think about drawing a video window & setting the source!

mark

--- In Crestron@..., "Mark" <markrkaye@...> wrote:

is it possible to get a video window inside the Crestron app?

mark


Re: Comcast (Motorola) cable box & HD-DA-2?

mrmondegreen
 

FYI... Spoke with TB and they indicated that future firmware may become available to handle this situation. For now, though, the answer is to use a midpoint (MD).

CW

--- In Crestron@..., "mrmondegreen" <mrmondegreen@...> wrote:

Does the HD-DA-2 'manage' the HDCP keys in the same way DM does, particularly as it concerns connecting two TVs to one Motorola cable box? Anyone tried this successfully/unsuccessfully?

Thanks,
Chris W.


iPad and Animations and other questions..

 

Hey Guys, Am I missing something or is there not a way to do a page flip animation with the Crestron Mobile - or Mobile Pro? (slide in/out left right, fold in half vertical/horizontal, book page turn, zoom in/out from middle, you know, all the transitions we have come to know and love on the iphone. I have some projects that a bare minimum would look really good with some animations. Or better yet expanded gesture control

My personal cool thought - have a page flip effect like when changing screens on the iphone/ipad (left/Right gesture) that as you flips changes pages/sub pages, and when the user stops on a particular page, it activates/routes the video to the display.

Anyways, if I am missing something, please let me know.

Also, does anyone know if there is a way to access the built in keyboard, rather than having to create one myself. I would love to Skin an P-IpodV Doc search page to look like you were browsing your own iDevice.

Thanks for the help!!


Re: SystemBuilder / MC3 programming issues

 

Ok, that's good news, now let's hope it works the first time :)

--- In Crestron@..., "Tony Golden" <mrgolden@...> wrote:

FYI, the Release Notes of the beta Database posted last week state it adds
System Builder support for the MLX-3. So, it shouldn't be long now...


--- On Thursday, March 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM, rogiervs wrote:

Oh, and I have a useless MLX3 here, which Crestron told me would be SB
compatible in January, but still isn't... really really need to get up-to-
date with SIMPL...


Re: SystemBuilder / MC3 programming issues

Dave James
 

Just don¡¯t try using an MLX-3 (or anything else, for that matter) with an MC3 in SB. At least not unless you like questioning your sanity.

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]


Re: Dynamic Graphics

Witmarquzot
 

Or make sure you are send the dynamic graphic via serial join and make sure it has an extension that is known to work (JPG/GIF/BMP/PNG). Else the xpanel seems to take a while to make sure of what it is.

--- In Crestron@..., "Anthony Desimone" <anthony_desimone@...> wrote:

Yea, use a non-local server. Processors really are not building for serving files; they just kind of happen to do it.

--- In Crestron@..., Eric Walters <sentry07@> wrote:

Messing with an XPanel that has dynamic graphics on it. It takes
foreeeeever for the graphics to load and the graphics are from a local
server. Anyone know how to speed it up? :)




Re: Dynamic Graphics

Anthony Desimone
 

Yea, use a non-local server. Processors really are not building for serving files; they just kind of happen to do it.

--- In Crestron@..., Eric Walters <sentry07@...> wrote:

Messing with an XPanel that has dynamic graphics on it. It takes
foreeeeever for the graphics to load and the graphics are from a local
server. Anyone know how to speed it up? :)




Re: SystemBuilder / MC3 programming issues

 

FYI, the Release Notes of the beta Database posted last week state it adds
System Builder support for the MLX-3. So, it shouldn't be long now...

--- On Thursday, March 29, 2012 at 3:52 PM, rogiervs wrote:

Oh, and I have a useless MLX3 here, which Crestron told me would be SB
compatible in January, but still isn't... really really need to get up-to-
date with SIMPL...


Re: SystemBuilder / MC3 programming issues

 

Yes! I actually had an issue after copying some programming from one keypad button to another. After I changed the logic, it would still control the lighting as programmed on the first one, whatever I did (removed the keypad from SB completely and reprogrammed).
What I ended up doing was rebuilding the complete project... for one button. Yeah, I know, I should have backed up, but for one simple copy-paste action?
Oh, and I have a useless MLX3 here, which Crestron told me would be SB compatible in January, but still isn't... really really need to get up-to-date with SIMPL...

--- In Crestron@..., "xylantech@..." <xti@...> wrote:

Anyone having multiple problems with trying to get SystemBuilder created programs for MC3's to work properly - or to even get two builds that have the same problems (instead of a fresh batch of problems with every new build) - should note that your efforts will be in vain.

Especially if you're using RSD's.

Stop. Your only choices (at the moment) are to create your programs in SIMPL, or abandon the MC3 and go back to a 2 Series processor.

Tech support has indicated to me that they have no timeline as to when this will be rectified. The number of issues they have to deal with to fix this indicates to me that this may take quite a while.

Go have a beer. It may not be good for you, but at least it's soothing.