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Re: Certified Drivers

 

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?For me, the key is using what has worked forever.
That means not using CCDs, and don't update a working system.¡°

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Well, sounds good, but I think that?s not possible anymore today.

I?m not so long in the integration business by now, but I think the times where systems have been installed once and then run untouched for the next couple of years are gone.

In the residential market new music or other software/cloud based services are popping up every day, in the commercial market it?s similar with video conferencing services. A couple of years ago, you connected a vc system via RS232, do the programming and then it would run forever.

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I think that?s sucking up a lot of Crestron?s resources: keeping up with all these new software based services (which often don?t care much about being integrated into another system).

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Cheers, Thorsten

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Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> Im Auftrag von Brian Matson
Gesendet: Freitag, 26. Februar 2021 17:42
An: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [crestron] Certified Drivers

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That's kind of getting off of the real topic a bit.? Although, we all like to rant against Crestron sometimes.
In reality, most of us that have been in the industry since the '90s have many Crestron systems that have been running 24/7 since the '90s.
They rarely have a hiccup, and if they do, it's quite often just a power supply or something simple.
Typically, a well designed and programmed system is solid after the initial debug phase is complete.
Crestron will still service and support a Pro2 that was installed over 20 years ago.? They'll even still try to help with a CNMSX-Pro (1-series) processor.
Ask Lutron to support one of their older system iterations?!
Lately, it's Crestron adding something via firmware or DB updates that breaks other things.? That is where we loose the most billable time.
They really need to slow the update release schedule and alpha/beta test things properly!

For me, the key is using what has worked forever.
That means not using CCDs, and don't update a working system.
Also, if it has RS-232, use that first over IP control.
I agree with using an SIO.? It doesn't fail.
If it doesn't need feedback and has a hardwired IR connection, use it before IP control.
If at all possible, avoid the "Cloud" like the plague.? Relying on the Internet for control is even worse than the local network.

However, it is quite interesting that Crestron Home uses those same CCDs.
I've never had a Crestron Home system have a driver failure that wasn't related to the device it was controlling.
Also, when the Sonos debacle happened recently, our Crestron Home systems still worked or at least were the first to get a resolution.
Can we unlock prog slot 0 and reverse engineer?? Probably not!

Studio - Scrollbar appearance

 

Hello
I want to change the look of Scrollbar in Black Glass 2.0 theme. On Dynamic Button List it's black and hardly visible.?
Could anyone tell me if its possible and in which section of Crestron Studio I should look?
I looked in ControlStyles and ImageMaps but couldn't find it.

Regards
Re: Certified Drivers

 

That's kind of getting off of the real topic a bit.? Although, we all like to rant against Crestron sometimes.
In reality, most of us that have been in the industry since the '90s have many Crestron systems that have been running 24/7 since the '90s.
They rarely have a hiccup, and if they do, it's quite often just a power supply or something simple.
Typically, a well designed and programmed system is solid after the initial debug phase is complete.
Crestron will still service and support a Pro2 that was installed over 20 years ago.? They'll even still try to help with a CNMSX-Pro (1-series) processor.
Ask Lutron to support one of their older system iterations?!
Lately, it's Crestron adding something via firmware or DB updates that breaks other things.? That is where we loose the most billable time.
They really need to slow the update release schedule and alpha/beta test things properly!

For me, the key is using what has worked forever.
That means not using CCDs, and don't update a working system.
Also, if it has RS-232, use that first over IP control.
I agree with using an SIO.? It doesn't fail.
If it doesn't need feedback and has a hardwired IR connection, use it before IP control.
If at all possible, avoid the "Cloud" like the plague.? Relying on the Internet for control is even worse than the local network.

However, it is quite interesting that Crestron Home uses those same CCDs.
I've never had a Crestron Home system have a driver failure that wasn't related to the device it was controlling.
Also, when the Sonos debacle happened recently, our Crestron Home systems still worked or at least were the first to get a resolution.
Can we unlock prog slot 0 and reverse engineer?? Probably not!
Re: Certified Drivers

 

It¡¯s threads like this that make me wonder how many tradesmen Crestron has sunk because of their horrific software architecture and implementation. All the while their lawyers and marketing team hold a knife at everyone¡¯s ?throat, demanding a brand image that is impossible to maintain due to their own unusable software. ?


As a tradesman, how much billable time have you lost due to these avoidable complications?
Alexa - A few things share the name...

 

i was playing around with the voice modules
did a remove/discover, now all my lights won't work due to 'a few things share...'
put back old code, remove/discover - same error
generic things seem to be OK, just the lights are messed up
my device list shows unique names, no duplicates
Re: Where to Sell Crestron Gear?

 

Yeah, offering things here (and obviously taking any follow-ups offline) and selling them on eBay are pretty much the best 2 options.? You might get more money for some things on ebay since most people here can presumably buy stuff at dealer cost, but the eBay buyers will rarely pay close to MSRP and you have to factor in the eBay fees.

Geoff


On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:04 AM scates98 <ccates@...> wrote:

Hey Everyone,

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I have some newish and gently used Crestron gear that I¡¯m looking to sell.? Just wondering where to list them?? Is Ebay still the place to list this hardware?? Anyone here interested?

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1 x - 6 Room + 2 Audio System (New & never used, but not in original box)

1 x - Network Stream Player (New & never used, in box)

1 x - Extended Range RF Wireless Gateway (used, gently)

1 x - 3-Series Control System w/infiNET EX & ER Wireless Gateway (used, no box, no antenna)

1 x - Handheld Touch Screen Remote, Black (used, no box)

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Shoot me a message if you¡¯re interested.? Looking forward to suggestions on where I can sell this.?

?

TIA,

?

Chris Cates
Creative Programming Inc.

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Cheers,

?

Chris Cates
Creative Programming Inc.
Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron

 

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In Europe we have Saint-Gobain Priva-Lite:

Easy to control with a relay.

Jarle


On 26.02.2021 04:43, paul lipp wrote:

Snap glass works great and is easily controlled.?


On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

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If you¡¯re referring to electochromic glass, usually (the good stuff, at least, and in my experience) is part of the glass manufacture process and it¡¯s actually sandwiched between two panes of glass rather than added after the fact and while it¡¯s never as clear as plain glass it¡¯s pretty non-noticeable if you aren¡¯t looking for it. I haven¡¯t seen any that are color changing.

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It¡¯s just voltage control ¨C so you just need a relay rated for whatever the glass is expecting as far as voltage and current. Frequently (IME) it just winds up as a switched (non-dim) circuit on the lighting control system .

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(The way it works, at least the implementations I¡¯m most familiar with and that I first saw [in a Hometime ¡°House of the Future¡± episode from 1992 ¨C wow how that project help set the career trajectory while I was still in elementary school] it¡¯s essentially a monochrome LCD display with no backlight. When there is no power all of the millions of liquid crystals orient themselves randomly making the glass ¡°opaque¡±; when you apply power the crystals all wind up point the same direction making it ¡°clear¡±)

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Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Diamond)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Direct: (+1)440.771.4807 | Cleveland: (+1)440.449.1100? | Boston: (+1)508.695.0188 | DC: (+1)202.381.9070? | Fax: (+1)440.449.1106
Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Authorized Independent Programmers | Extron Qualified Independent Programmer

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of adamzatorski
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron

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Does anyone have good experience controlling Switchable Privacy Glass films?? We want a reliable product that can just go from see thru to opaque.? I don't have any color changing requirements at the moment but the clarity when it is in see-thru mode is very important.

Thanks,


Virus-free.

Where to Sell Crestron Gear?

 

Hey Everyone,

?

I have some newish and gently used Crestron gear that I¡¯m looking to sell.? Just wondering where to list them?? Is Ebay still the place to list this hardware?? Anyone here interested?

?

1 x - 6 Room + 2 Audio System (New & never used, but not in original box)

1 x - Network Stream Player (New & never used, in box)

1 x - Extended Range RF Wireless Gateway (used, gently)

1 x - 3-Series Control System w/infiNET EX & ER Wireless Gateway (used, no box, no antenna)

1 x - Handheld Touch Screen Remote, Black (used, no box)

?

Shoot me a message if you¡¯re interested.? Looking forward to suggestions on where I can sell this.?

?

TIA,

?

Chris Cates
Creative Programming Inc.

?

Cheers,

?

Chris Cates
Creative Programming Inc.
Re: Adagio internal power supply

 

If no one responds tonight I will get you the info in the morning. My colleague just had to replace the power supplies in our owners Adagios. He has two and both power supplies had to be replaced. I will ask my colleague tomorrow for the information and who we bought the power supplies from.?



B
Re: Adagio internal power supply

 

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Here is the power supply used in the PWS-75 and AV-2s and Pro-2s. It might be the same:
LPS65 Artesyn Embedded Technologies Switching Power Supplies 60W 24V 2.5A datasheet, inventory, & pricing.
www.mouser.com


OP
Re: Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron

 

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Snap glass works great and is easily controlled.?


On Feb 24, 2021, at 7:26 PM, Lincoln King-Cliby <lincoln@...> wrote:

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If you¡¯re referring to electochromic glass, usually (the good stuff, at least, and in my experience) is part of the glass manufacture process and it¡¯s actually sandwiched between two panes of glass rather than added after the fact and while it¡¯s never as clear as plain glass it¡¯s pretty non-noticeable if you aren¡¯t looking for it. I haven¡¯t seen any that are color changing.

?

It¡¯s just voltage control ¨C so you just need a relay rated for whatever the glass is expecting as far as voltage and current. Frequently (IME) it just winds up as a switched (non-dim) circuit on the lighting control system .

?

(The way it works, at least the implementations I¡¯m most familiar with and that I first saw [in a Hometime ¡°House of the Future¡± episode from 1992 ¨C wow how that project help set the career trajectory while I was still in elementary school] it¡¯s essentially a monochrome LCD display with no backlight. When there is no power all of the millions of liquid crystals orient themselves randomly making the glass ¡°opaque¡±; when you apply power the crystals all wind up point the same direction making it ¡°clear¡±)

?

--

Lincoln King-Cliby, CTS, DMC-E-4K/T/D
Commercial Market Director
Sr. Systems Architect | Crestron Certified Master Programmer (Diamond)
ControlWorks Consulting, LLC
Direct: (+1)440.771.4807 | Cleveland: (+1)440.449.1100? | Boston: (+1)508.695.0188 | DC: (+1)202.381.9070? | Fax: (+1)440.449.1106
Crestron Services Provider | Biamp Authorized Independent Programmers | Extron Qualified Independent Programmer

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of adamzatorski
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 7:04 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [crestron] Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron

?

Does anyone have good experience controlling Switchable Privacy Glass films?? We want a reliable product that can just go from see thru to opaque.? I don't have any color changing requirements at the moment but the clarity when it is in see-thru mode is very important.

Thanks,

Re: Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron

 


Thanks.?

A couple of points. I look at smart glass as a luxury product. So I really don¡¯t see the power usage as a barrier to purchase by the intended audience. In addition, power consumption is going to be based on use.? What I mean by that is if smart glass is going to be used in a window where you are primarily interested in privacy and just want a quick view outdoors every once in a while (maybe a bathroom window) then power consumption will be very low.? Of corse if the opposite is true then consumption will be much higher

Thanks?

Jay


On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 7:25 PM <spannertech@...> wrote:
Really interesting article thanks for sharing Jay.? Too bad they use so much energy to make them transparent....

OP

Re: IR Pulsing for a certain time & NVRAM #simplwindows #crestron #programming #lighting #lutron

 

Spacer has scene 1-5, brighter, dimmer, on and off. ?IR is one way control with no feedback. ?What you are describing is not possible nor reliable with IR.
Re: Switchable Privacy Glass - Works well with Crestron

 

Really interesting article thanks for sharing Jay.? Too bad they use so much energy to make them transparent....

OP
Re: Certified Drivers

 

I've used CCD's myself with quite a fair amount of success. There were various DB releases that broke some things, but the RAD framework should've been updated to use isolated AppDomains...

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Crestron Service Provider - TBD Enterprises Inc.
Re: Certified Drivers

 

I have done several large projects with ccd's.
For the amount of effort, I wish I had just went with regular old sio.
I really like the idea but everytime I use them something happens that causes issues.
IR Pulsing for a certain time & NVRAM #simplwindows #crestron #programming #lighting #lutron

 

Hello,
? ? How can a IR controlled?Lutron Spacer light switch be pulsed for a certain length of time and stored?

The Lutron Spacer module has brightness, dim, Off/On. What I would like to have is 10 presets labeled 10% - 100% which is the brightness level going up the scale and vice versa.

What I can't figure out is:
1) If the lights are at 40% and I press 80%, the brightness goes up to 80%, store this value, and if I press 20%, the lights dim and store this value. I don't understand the NVRAM stuff.
2) I think it would be handy on the touch panel that if I press the 40% button that it stays illuminated until I press another percentage value
3) If I press brightness or dim, the percentage button goes off until I get to the next highest or lowest percentage.

Thanks for your help and if you think that I'm out of my mind, I can take it. :)

dsmithp233
Re: Certified Drivers

 

all of what i am doing are RS-232
Re: Certified Drivers

[email protected]
 

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Are they all IP based control modules?


On Feb 25, 2021, at 6:06 PM, Scott via groups.io <bluegauges@...> wrote:

?These things are giving me all kinds of grief.? They just stop working.? I had one job with 3 rooms....all 3 rooms stopped working on the same day after about 5 or 6 weeks of working fine.? These are all with planar displays.?? I have other jobs with samsung displays and same thing -? the driver just stops working until i reboot the processor.? I tried reloading the driver at regular intervals and a few other things to try to keep it alive but i am about to give up on certified drivers altogether.

Re: Samsung Ambient Mode Serial

 

How about a code for ¡°play/pause¡±? I would be most grateful for that

Jake Klingler
Pro Audio Design

On Feb 23, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Tony Golden <mrgolden@...> wrote:

?Ambient Mode On = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x10\x01\xAF
Ambient Mode Off = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x10\x00\xB0

Art Mode On = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x0E\x01\xB1
Art Mode Off = \x08\x22\x0B\x0B\x0E\x00\xB2

I don't know why Samsung has two different names, and two different commands, for what appears to be the same feature :-)


--- On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 2:55 PM, TRoberts wrote:

Hey All,
Just wondering if anyone has the command for Ambient mode (discrete if
available) for a Samsung TV. I have a xls doc that has a bunch of serial
commands, but the doc is a few years old and does not have the command for
ambient. Any help is appreciated.
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