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Body panels -- Vaccum forming?


 

Hi All,

Someone mentioned that they had body panels available (NOS) in another thread, which made me remember this, but I didn't want to hijack the topic with my off-topic idea.

I've been wondering if the body panels were originally vacuum-formed. ABS softens a little above 105C (221F). In addition, the body panels don't seem to have any sharp edges--looking at them, they seem the ideal shapes for vacuum-forming.

Does anyone know if this was how the originals were made? Has anyone tried making a new panel this way?

Thanks!
- Jacob Field
1980 Gold ComutaCar



 

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A few years back, I talked with the company that originally did the panels. From what I understand, they used a mold but no longer had it.?

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From: C-Car@... [mailto:C-Car@...]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 12:54 PM
To: C-Car@...
Subject: [C-Car] Body panels -- Vaccum forming?

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Hi All,

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Someone mentioned that they had body panels available (NOS) in another thread, which made me remember this, but I didn't want to hijack the topic with my off-topic idea.

?

I've been wondering if the body panels were originally vacuum-formed. ABS softens a little above 105C (221F). In addition, the body panels don't seem to have any sharp edges--looking at them, they seem the ideal shapes for vacuum-forming.

?

Does anyone know if this was how the originals were made? Has anyone tried making a new panel this way?

?

Thanks!

- Jacob Field

1980 Gold ComutaCar

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Good to know. It seems that it wouldn't be hard to make a mold, so long as you had a good car you could use. Of course, there might be differences between the Citi and Comuta cars, and the Vans will be different too¡ªbut it could be done.?

I don't need body panels, luckily¡ªbut I've been curious about this for a while.

- Jacob Field
1980 Gold ComutaCar


On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 1:57 PM Peter Crisitello crisitel@... [C-Car] <C-Car@...> wrote:
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A few years back, I talked with the company that originally did the panels. From what I understand, they used a mold but no longer had it.?

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??? Peter Crisitello

?????? Crisitel@...

?

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From: C-Car@... [mailto:C-Car@...]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 12:54 PM
To: C-Car@...
Subject: [C-Car] Body panels -- Vaccum forming?

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Hi All,

?

Someone mentioned that they had body panels available (NOS) in another thread, which made me remember this, but I didn't want to hijack the topic with my off-topic idea.

?

I've been wondering if the body panels were originally vacuum-formed. ABS softens a little above 105C (221F). In addition, the body panels don't seem to have any sharp edges--looking at them, they seem the ideal shapes for vacuum-forming.

?

Does anyone know if this was how the originals were made? Has anyone tried making a new panel this way?

?

Thanks!

- Jacob Field

1980 Gold ComutaCar

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As I recall, yes, the body panels were vacuum formed ABS.
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On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 4:57 PM Peter Crisitello crisitel@... [C-Car] <C-Car@...> wrote:
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A few years back, I talked with the company that originally did the panels. From what I understand, they used a mold but no longer had it.?

?

?

??? Peter Crisitello

?????? Crisitel@...

?

?

?

From: C-Car@... [mailto:C-Car@...]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 12:54 PM
To: C-Car@...
Subject: [C-Car] Body panels -- Vaccum forming?

?

?

Hi All,

?

Someone mentioned that they had body panels available (NOS) in another thread, which made me remember this, but I didn't want to hijack the topic with my off-topic idea.

?

I've been wondering if the body panels were originally vacuum-formed. ABS softens a little above 105C (221F). In addition, the body panels don't seem to have any sharp edges--looking at them, they seem the ideal shapes for vacuum-forming.

?

Does anyone know if this was how the originals were made? Has anyone tried making a new panel this way?

?

Thanks!

- Jacob Field

1980 Gold ComutaCar

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yes the panels i have ware the nos panels from sebring from when the plant closed down thar are abs vacum formed

In a message dated 4/29/2019 12:55:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, C-Car@... writes:

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Hi All,

Someone mentioned that they had body panels available (NOS) in another thread, which made me remember this, but I didn't want to hijack the topic with my off-topic idea.

I've been wondering if the body panels were originally vacuum-formed. ABS softens a little above 105C (221F). In addition, the body panels don't seem to have any sharp edges--looking at them, they seem the ideal shapes for vacuum-forming.

Does anyone know if this was how the originals were made? Has anyone tried making a new panel this way?

Thanks!
- Jacob Field
1980 Gold ComutaCar



 

Great to know, thanks for the input, all!

ABS is a common 3D printer plastic filament, but I suspect it will be a few decades at least until we have available 3D printers large enough to print entire body panels... In the mean time, we can buy them fron Christopher, or try making our own molds and vacuum-forming new panels.

- Jacob Field
1980 Gold ComutaCar


 

jacob thank you for the push i live in florida i do have c-car panel and postal van panels if you need a list of what i have in stock just shoot me a note i can send a fyler to you or who needs them ill ship them as cheep as i can i use fed x for shiping
thank you chris bonotto the VP of Florida Citicar EV Club?

In a message dated 4/29/2019 8:57:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, C-Car@... writes:

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Great to know, thanks for the input, all!

ABS is a common 3D printer plastic filament, but I suspect it will be a few decades at least until we have available 3D printers large enough to print entire body panels... In the mean time, we can buy them fron Christopher, or try making our own molds and vacuum-forming new panels.

- Jacob Field
1980 Gold ComutaCar


 

I just came across this spec sheet from the 1974 Citicar - it was the basis of an Industrial Design project in college.? We tried to establish some communication with Vanguard to share information and results but they weren't interested.



My redesign was very conservative, a couple in the class were very good.? The best one was done by Jon Albert, who ended up at General Motors for decades.


 

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Rick:

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Do you have any of the other project design alternatives??

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From: C-Car@... [mailto:C-Car@...]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:10 PM
To: C-Car@...
Subject: Re: [C-Car] Re: Body panels -- Vaccum forming?

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I just came across this spec sheet from the 1974 Citicar - it was the basis of an Industrial Design project in college.? We tried to establish some communication with Vanguard to share information and results but they weren't interested.

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My redesign was very conservative, a couple in the class were very good.? The best one was done by Jon Albert, who ended up at General Motors for decades.


 

I have some of my sketches but I don't think I have anything from the other students. I might have a few half frame kodachrome slides that would show some of them



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On Mon, Apr 29, 2019, 11:10 PM Peter Crisitello crisitel@... [C-Car] <C-Car@...> wrote:
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Rick:

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Do you have any of the other project design alternatives??

?

??? Peter Crisitello

????? ?Crisitel@...

?

?

?

?

From: C-Car@... [mailto:C-Car@...]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 10:10 PM
To: C-Car@...
Subject: Re: [C-Car] Re: Body panels -- Vaccum forming?

?

?

I just came across this spec sheet from the 1974 Citicar - it was the basis of an Industrial Design project in college.? We tried to establish some communication with Vanguard to share information and results but they weren't interested.

?

?

My redesign was very conservative, a couple in the class were very good.? The best one was done by Jon Albert, who ended up at General Motors for decades.