I'm excited!? I doubt I'll get in in tonight.?
On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 4:57 AM jerry freedomev via <freedomev= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dave and All, ? ?? They come vented with an internal fan and have blower port options to attach a hose to. They build these custom to each customer so you can order about anything you want.? Just ask. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Jerry
On Friday, April 24, 2020, 09:06:49 PM EDT, Tony399 < tony_399@...> wrote:
Dave,?
? ? ? ?Sorry for the slow response, I was not ready to pay the $800.?
? ? ? ?How are you going to connect the air port? Or does it have it's own cooling??--
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Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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Hi Dave and All, ? ?? They come vented with an internal fan and have blower port options to attach a hose to. They build these custom to each customer so you can order about anything you want.? Just ask. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Jerry
On Friday, April 24, 2020, 09:06:49 PM EDT, Tony399 <tony_399@...> wrote:
Dave,?
? ? ? ?Sorry for the slow response, I was not ready to pay the $800.?
? ? ? ?How are you going to connect the air port? Or does it have it's own cooling??--
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Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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Also, depending? on where you live... I'm expecting? about $625?+100 shipping. Approximately. based on the quote.?
It has venting, but I'm likely going to loose my heat. I may be able to plumb it, but I'm not totally sure at this point. With that said, it will have no issue cooling itself, just maybe not providing heat. I may be able to tap the case to fit the ge cooling.?
Dave,?
? ? ? ?Sorry for the slow response, I was not ready to pay the $800.?
? ? ? ?How are you going to connect the air port? Or does it have it's own cooling??--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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It has venting, but I'm likely going to loose my heat. I may be able to plumb it, but I'm not totally sure at this point. With that said, it will have no issue cooling itself, just maybe not providing heat. I may be able to tap the case to fit the ge cooling.?
Dave,?
? ? ? ?Sorry for the slow response, I was not ready to pay the $800.?
? ? ? ?How are you going to connect the air port? Or does it have it's own cooling??--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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Dave,?
? ? ? ?Sorry for the slow response, I was not ready to pay the $800.?
? ? ? ?How are you going to connect the air port? Or does it have it's own cooling??--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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I should also mention I asked to leave the tail shaft to be left on to allow speedometer to be installed if I figure out how to do that. I'm excited. they should start on it monday if all goes well.?
Ok I had to make an order so I can get rolling. My car gets a new model number from d&d? es40c-56. My centering ring is off from their common motors, and that model number is a combo of a couple models together.? When ordering,? make sure you have your splines measured as well as this ring. For reference,? my car is a 77 citicar. Transition? "a" model with the standard dana axle as far as I can tell.? I spoke with vic de john at d&d.?
Thanks Nicholas and Dave,
? ? ? ? I'm interested in getting the the forced air option done too. Is the citi car connection to the Dana the same as the 1980 Comuta-car? If so I'd like to get the sales number of the D&D motor. I've emailed them in the past but having the air port in the motor is a great option. Please send pictures when you get a chance.?
? ? ? ?The Plum motors look impressive but I have not heard of anyone in the c-car group talk about them.
? ? ? Thanks again for the information.
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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Ok I had to make an order so I can get rolling. My car gets a new model number from d&d? es40c-56. My centering ring is off from their common motors, and that model number is a combo of a couple models together.? When ordering,? make sure you have your splines measured as well as this ring. For reference,? my car is a 77 citicar. Transition? "a" model with the standard dana axle as far as I can tell.? I spoke with vic de john at d&d.?
Thanks Nicholas and Dave,
? ? ? ? I'm interested in getting the the forced air option done too. Is the citi car connection to the Dana the same as the 1980 Comuta-car? If so I'd like to get the sales number of the D&D motor. I've emailed them in the past but having the air port in the motor is a great option. Please send pictures when you get a chance.?
? ? ? ?The Plum motors look impressive but I have not heard of anyone in the c-car group talk about them.
? ? ? Thanks again for the information.
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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The Dana axle mounts the motor on the front of the axle, being towards the interior of the car. The cars with the Dana have a different designed battery box to fit the motor position. I also think the splines are different too.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Brice <dbrice3721@...> Date: 4/20/20 7:15 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [c-car] Replacement motor
?I'd be interested in a group buy if that happens. I have a similar 600a alltrax, and 2 ga wires.? I have not yet verified my axle ratio as 5.17 or my tires rolling radius somewhere around 10 in. Maybe this week.? Nick, I see you have a Terrell axle, is the motor mounting the same across both dana and terrell? I have the alltrax 48v 600a controller. 2/0 wiring. I use a kilo vac 500a 320v disconnect if it all hits the fan.? The sales order from D&D is 16000434 invoice is INV1600457 the motor is the ES-85A-42. It is a 48v motor, I believe you can run it as 36v as well.?
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-------- Original message -------- Date: 4/20/20 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [c-car] Replacement motor
? ? ? ? Hi All, ? ? ? ? ?? Just got through talking to Eric at D+D and motor cost about $565 depending which model and 500 amp 72vdc controller about the same. 1 315 701 0635 ? ? ? ? ?? To order have your motor model? number, axle type ready so he knows which one to build.? . ? ? ? ? ? ? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 03:13:46 PM EDT, jerry freedomev via <freedomev= [email protected]> wrote:
? ?? Hi Tony and All, ? ? ? ?? Very likely they will do a group order discount. ? ? ? ? ?? I'd suggest going the next size up motor, 150-175 amp as stock was a little light especially if you have the highway gearing instead of hill gearing option on the CC.? It doesn't cost that much more. ? ? ? ? ? Get those wanting motors together with what they want with 3 or more and you should get a 15% or so discount. Almost all D+D motors are made to order so you can order cooling hose bibs, extra brushes,more power/amps, etc. ? ? ? ? ?? They have good deals on 72vdc 450amp? and 48vdc 600amp controllers if anyone wants one get in on the deal. ? ? ? ? ? ?? They have done a good number of CC motors over the yrs.? You'd get the same discount as EV Performance so no need to add them into it as just raises costs. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 02:32:54 PM EDT, Tony399 < tony_399@...> wrote:
Crazy idea All,
? ? ? ? Could we get a discount for a group order? I wonder if EV Performance site could stock them?
? ? ? ? ?I know I would have already purchased one if I knew it was a perfect fit upgrade.?
? ? ? ? Let me know who is interested and I'll coordinate the buy.
? ? ? ? Nicholas, may need your order info.?
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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?I'd be interested in a group buy if that happens. I have a similar 600a alltrax, and 2 ga wires.? I have not yet verified my axle ratio as 5.17 or my tires rolling radius somewhere around 10 in. Maybe this week.? Nick, I see you have a Terrell axle, is the motor mounting the same across both dana and terrell?
I have the alltrax 48v 600a controller. 2/0 wiring. I use a kilo vac 500a 320v disconnect if it all hits the fan.? The sales order from D&D is 16000434 invoice is INV1600457 the motor is the ES-85A-42. It is a 48v motor, I believe you can run it as 36v as well.?
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-------- Original message -------- Date: 4/20/20 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [c-car] Replacement motor
? ? ? ? Hi All, ? ? ? ? ?? Just got through talking to Eric at D+D and motor cost about $565 depending which model and 500 amp 72vdc controller about the same. 1 315 701 0635 ? ? ? ? ?? To order have your motor model? number, axle type ready so he knows which one to build.? . ? ? ? ? ? ? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 03:13:46 PM EDT, jerry freedomev via <freedomev= [email protected]> wrote:
? ?? Hi Tony and All, ? ? ? ?? Very likely they will do a group order discount. ? ? ? ? ?? I'd suggest going the next size up motor, 150-175 amp as stock was a little light especially if you have the highway gearing instead of hill gearing option on the CC.? It doesn't cost that much more. ? ? ? ? ? Get those wanting motors together with what they want with 3 or more and you should get a 15% or so discount. Almost all D+D motors are made to order so you can order cooling hose bibs, extra brushes,more power/amps, etc. ? ? ? ? ?? They have good deals on 72vdc 450amp? and 48vdc 600amp controllers if anyone wants one get in on the deal. ? ? ? ? ? ?? They have done a good number of CC motors over the yrs.? You'd get the same discount as EV Performance so no need to add them into it as just raises costs. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 02:32:54 PM EDT, Tony399 < tony_399@...> wrote:
Crazy idea All,
? ? ? ? Could we get a discount for a group order? I wonder if EV Performance site could stock them?
? ? ? ? ?I know I would have already purchased one if I knew it was a perfect fit upgrade.?
? ? ? ? Let me know who is interested and I'll coordinate the buy.
? ? ? ? Nicholas, may need your order info.?
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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I have the alltrax 48v 600a controller. 2/0 wiring. I use a kilo vac 500a 320v disconnect if it all hits the fan.? The sales order from D&D is 16000434 invoice is INV1600457 the motor is the ES-85A-42. It is a 48v motor, I believe you can run it as 36v as well.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "jerry freedomev via groups.io" <freedomev@...> Date: 4/20/20 3:34 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [c-car] Replacement motor
? ? ? ? Hi All, ? ? ? ? ?? Just got through talking to Eric at D+D and motor cost about $565 depending which model and 500 amp 72vdc controller about the same. 1 315 701 0635 ? ? ? ? ?? To order have your motor model? number, axle type ready so he knows which one to build.? . ? ? ? ? ? ? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 03:13:46 PM EDT, jerry freedomev via groups.io <freedomev@...> wrote:
? ?? Hi Tony and All, ? ? ? ?? Very likely they will do a group order discount. ? ? ? ? ?? I'd suggest going the next size up motor, 150-175 amp as stock was a little light especially if you have the highway gearing instead of hill gearing option on the CC.? It doesn't cost that much more. ? ? ? ? ? Get those wanting motors together with what they want with 3 or more and you should get a 15% or so discount. Almost all D+D motors are made to order so you can order cooling hose bibs, extra brushes,more power/amps, etc. ? ? ? ? ?? They have good deals on 72vdc 450amp? and 48vdc 600amp controllers if anyone wants one get in on the deal. ? ? ? ? ? ?? They have done a good number of CC motors over the yrs.? You'd get the same discount as EV Performance so no need to add them into it as just raises costs. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 02:32:54 PM EDT, Tony399 <tony_399@...> wrote:
Crazy idea All,
? ? ? ? Could we get a discount for a group order? I wonder if EV Performance site could stock them?
? ? ? ? ?I know I would have already purchased one if I knew it was a perfect fit upgrade.?
? ? ? ? Let me know who is interested and I'll coordinate the buy.
? ? ? ? Nicholas, may need your order info.?
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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? ? ? ? Hi All, ? ? ? ? ?? Just got through talking to Eric at D+D and motor cost about $565 depending which model and 500 amp 72vdc controller about the same. 1 315 701 0635 ? ? ? ? ?? To order have your motor model? number, axle type ready so he knows which one to build.? . ? ? ? ? ? ? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 03:13:46 PM EDT, jerry freedomev via groups.io <freedomev@...> wrote:
? ?? Hi Tony and All, ? ? ? ?? Very likely they will do a group order discount. ? ? ? ? ?? I'd suggest going the next size up motor, 150-175 amp as stock was a little light especially if you have the highway gearing instead of hill gearing option on the CC.? It doesn't cost that much more. ? ? ? ? ? Get those wanting motors together with what they want with 3 or more and you should get a 15% or so discount. Almost all D+D motors are made to order so you can order cooling hose bibs, extra brushes,more power/amps, etc. ? ? ? ? ?? They have good deals on 72vdc 450amp? and 48vdc 600amp controllers if anyone wants one get in on the deal. ? ? ? ? ? ?? They have done a good number of CC motors over the yrs.? You'd get the same discount as EV Performance so no need to add them into it as just raises costs. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 02:32:54 PM EDT, Tony399 <tony_399@...> wrote:
Crazy idea All,
? ? ? ? Could we get a discount for a group order? I wonder if EV Performance site could stock them?
? ? ? ? ?I know I would have already purchased one if I knew it was a perfect fit upgrade.?
? ? ? ? Let me know who is interested and I'll coordinate the buy.
? ? ? ? Nicholas, may need your order info.?
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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? ?? Hi Tony and All, ? ? ? ?? Very likely they will do a group order discount. ? ? ? ? ?? I'd suggest going the next size up motor, 150-175 amp as stock was a little light especially if you have the highway gearing instead of hill gearing option on the CC.? It doesn't cost that much more. ? ? ? ? ? Get those wanting motors together with what they want with 3 or more and you should get a 15% or so discount. Almost all D+D motors are made to order so you can order cooling hose bibs, extra brushes,more power/amps, etc. ? ? ? ? ?? They have good deals on 72vdc 450amp? and 48vdc 600amp controllers if anyone wants one get in on the deal. ? ? ? ? ? ?? They have done a good number of CC motors over the yrs.? You'd get the same discount as EV Performance so no need to add them into it as just raises costs. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? Jerry Dycus
On Monday, April 20, 2020, 02:32:54 PM EDT, Tony399 <tony_399@...> wrote:
Crazy idea All,
? ? ? ? Could we get a discount for a group order? I wonder if EV Performance site could stock them?
? ? ? ? ?I know I would have already purchased one if I knew it was a perfect fit upgrade.?
? ? ? ? Let me know who is interested and I'll coordinate the buy.
? ? ? ? Nicholas, may need your order info.?
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
|
Crazy idea All,
? ? ? ? Could we get a discount for a group order? I wonder if EV Performance site could stock them?
? ? ? ? ?I know I would have already purchased one if I knew it was a perfect fit upgrade.?
? ? ? ? Let me know who is interested and I'll coordinate the buy.
? ? ? ? Nicholas, may need your order info.?
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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https://ddmotorsystems.com/
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Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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Thank you for tip on replacement Comutacar motor. Does d&d have a website ? Telephone contact? Regards?
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Thanks Nicholas and Dave,
? ? ? ? I'm interested in getting the the forced air option done too. Is the citi car connection to the Dana the same as the 1980 Comuta-car? If so I'd like to get the sales number of the D&D motor. I've emailed them in the past but having the air port in the motor is a great option. Please send pictures when you get a chance.?
? ? ? ?The Plum motors look impressive but I have not heard of anyone in the c-car group talk about them.
? ? ? Thanks again for the information.
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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My D&D motor was custom made from a stock citicar Terrell axle motor. They actually had 2 in stock. But mine was milled on the shaft side to vent and on the far side to allow a 2" hose for forced air cooling by a 12v blower motor. If I remember right it was 750 or so. I want to say the motor was 600 and the machining was 150. I would highly reccomend this. I can go the full 35 miles flat out in hills in summer, max temp was 185f. They don't have a concern till I believe 220f, so I can run the motor with no worry. Would highly recommend this if you have an alltrax and upgraded wiring. If anyone is interested I will post pics, and give you the sales number so D&D can make you one like mine. I had to have them make another head I put on to get the motor perfect. Might be able to save you some hassle if they can find my sales number since it was a custom job.?
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-------- Original message -------- From: Dave Brice <dbrice3721@...> Date: 4/19/20 9:39 PM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [c-car] Replacement motor
Tony, I dont know all the answers. However there are some "newer" motors that may be sepex or ac that use 10 spline. It is a different 10 spline!
However,? many older carts took a 10 spline, on the Dana axle that will fit, but most were significantly less horsepower than ours like 2hp vs 6. I have a few more measurements to take for my quote sheet to d&d. I'll let you know what their price is. I might quote plum quick too, however I suspect d&d is the better option.? I'm expecting? a quote under $1000?but over 700? Maybe.? Good morning all,?
? ? ? I believe a similar thing happened to me, but I have a question that may or may not have been covered.?
? ? ? ?Will any club car 10 tooth spline motor fit a 1980? I want to replace the 40 year old motor instead of working on it, again lol.?
? ? ? ?Looking for direction and hoping for more hill climbing capability.?
Cheers,
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Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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Tony, I dont know all the answers. However there are some "newer" motors that may be sepex or ac that use 10 spline. It is a different 10 spline!
However,? many older carts took a 10 spline, on the Dana axle that will fit, but most were significantly less horsepower than ours like 2hp vs 6. I have a few more measurements to take for my quote sheet to d&d. I'll let you know what their price is. I might quote plum quick too, however I suspect d&d is the better option.? I'm expecting? a quote under $1000?but over 700? Maybe.?
Good morning all,?
? ? ? I believe a similar thing happened to me, but I have a question that may or may not have been covered.?
? ? ? ?Will any club car 10 tooth spline motor fit a 1980? I want to replace the 40 year old motor instead of working on it, again lol.?
? ? ? ?Looking for direction and hoping for more hill climbing capability.?
Cheers,
--
Cheers
Tony P
1980 Orange Comuta-car
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Good morning all,?
? ? ? I believe a similar thing happened to me, but I have a question that may or may not have been covered.?
? ? ? ?Will any club car 10 tooth spline motor fit a 1980? I want to replace the 40 year old motor instead of working on it, again lol.?
? ? ? ?Looking for direction and hoping for more hill climbing capability.?
Cheers,
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