Re: Troubleshooting no run
If you have an original Citicar, there is a small #14 wire connected to the frame tubing back by the contactor box in the back grocery shelf area. There was a service bulletin issued to double the small wire to two pieces of #14 wire, so it might look like a double wire.? Tom Keenan
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On Jul 29, 2019, at 9:48 AM, mark.barbour@... [C-Car] < C-Car@...> wrote:
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It could be the ground to the plate where the contractor sits.? Where is the :
small #14 frame ground wire burned out (fused) or not connected from pack to frame ground location?
Thanks so much.? Driving me crazy.... Mark
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Re: Volt Meter /Fuel Gauge
All of my accessories are 12v, I have no 18v to the dash. One place in my
book it shows the 18awg white wire going to the neg on battery pack. Another
place shows?– to ground and + to 48v. Another place showes White ti fuse then to
battery + neg to ground.
Very Confusing.
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Re: Troubleshooting no run
It could be the ground to the plate where the contractor sits.? Where is the :
small #14 frame ground wire burned out (fused) or not connected from pack to frame ground location?
Thanks so much.? Driving me crazy.... Mark
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Re: Volt Meter /Fuel Gauge
The volt meter is powered by 18 volts. From the frame ground battery connection, go back in the pack until you get to 18 volts (nominal). That is where the E-F gauge volt meter should be connected (via the fuse box). There are two or three other 18v items that normally run off the same fuse, such as the horn and wipers.? Tom Keenan
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On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:55 AM, koaly@... [C-Car] < C-Car@...> wrote:
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I have a 48v Comutacar and would like to know if anyone knows the right way to connect to the battery system. My books show two different ways and I,m not sure which is right.
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I have a 48v Comutacar and would like to know if anyone knows the right way to connect to the battery system. My books show two different ways and I,m not sure which is right.
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Re: Troubleshooting no run
I’ve seen this issue caused by a couple of things, including: - Ground wires not attached to contactor , or ground not supplied to contactor mount plate.? - solenoid wires not attached properly. The contactor coil power connectors are in pairs, top two are connected together internally, bottom two are opposite polarity connected together internally.? - ?bad fuse - small #14 frame ground wire burned out (fused) or not connected from pack to frame ground location.?
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On Jul 29, 2019, at 5:30 AM, mark.barbour@... [C-Car] < C-Car@...> wrote:
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Looking in? the service manual for Fuse locations.? I think the main fuse in the fusebox is in position 5.? Where is the fuse in the Contactor area?? Is there a list of all the fuses in the car in one place?
Thanks, Mark
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Re: Troubleshooting no run
Looking in? the service manual for Fuse locations.? I think the main fuse in the fusebox is in position 5.? Where is the fuse in the Contactor area?? Is there a list of all the fuses in the car in one place?
Thanks, Mark
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Re: Troubleshooting no run
That tells me two things. One is that your f/r contacts are wired the "old" way, there was an update to change "down" to forward.? And two that your motor works.
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So still working on getting my c-car moving again.? Took of the F/R contactor.? Picture included.? Cleaned the contacts.? Put it back together.? Now when I turn the key to on, no clunk.? If I press down of the contactor spring closest to the seat the car lunges backwards.? Batteries are all charged,
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Re: Troubleshooting no run
So still working on getting my c-car moving again.? Took of the F/R contactor.? Picture included.? Cleaned the contacts.? Put it back together.? Now when I turn the key to on, no clunk.? If I press down of the contactor spring closest to the seat the car lunges backwards.? Batteries are all charged,
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Norman:
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Good to hear from you.? Are you on FaceBook or just by email through Yahoo?? Either way can you send some pictures of these van’s?? How are the bodies on them? Do they rolleasily or are the wheels stuck??
Have you tried starting the motors?? Do you know the serial numbers?? The tag from the PO should be on the dash to the left? with this information, if not readable there should be painted postal numbers on the front and back above the windshield and back door.?
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If you are on FaceBook, try connecting on one of the following pages.
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If not, you should be able to attach a picture to the Yahoo email.
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I have CC’d CB on this email as he is down there in FL and should be able to help you on a local level.
Hope to hear further from you.?
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Peter
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From: C-Car@... [mailto:C-Car@...]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2019 5:25 PM
To: C-Car@...
Subject: [C-Car] Postal Vehicles
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I am in possession of two postal vehicles made in 1980 by Commuter Vehicles, Inc., of Sebring, Florida.? I acquired these two cars 8-10 years with the grand intention
of making at least one of them drivable. I never did anything with either one.
I am looking for a new home for them. They are both mostly complete but certainly not anywhere near drivable. If anybody is interested or might know of someone interested
I would certainly like to find them a good home.?
They at located in Titusville, FL. I might be interested in delivering them for my expenses.
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Hello,
I am in possession of two postal vehicles made in 1980 by Commuter Vehicles, Inc., of Sebring, Florida.? I acquired these two cars 8-10 years with the grand intention of making at least one of them drivable. I never did anything with either one.
I am looking for a new home for them. They are both mostly complete but certainly not anywhere near drivable. If anybody is interested or might know of someone interested I would certainly like to find them a good home.?
They at located in Titusville, FL. I might be interested in delivering them for my expenses.
Let me know.
Norman
Lannee@...
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Was this forward email a hack or just reposting from someone you know? Everything good?
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Jacob Field jacobtimothyfield@... [C-Car]" <C-Car@...> Date: 7/22/19 12:30 PM (GMT-05:00) To: C-Car@... Subject: Re: [C-Car] I was thinking
I was thinking the same thing.
Please keep your messages on this forum relevant to CCars.
- Jacob Field 1980 Gold ComutaCar
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I was thinking:? If people on common-interest groups only posted messages relevant to that common interest, would the world be a better place?
I think maybe yes.
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-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: George <lexchiro@...>
>Sent: Jul 20, 2019 5:07 PM
>To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>Subject: Fwd: I was thinking
>
>SOME TIMES IT HURTS TO THINK!!
>
>I was thinking;
>If only 11 million people have Obama-Care, how will 24 million people
>die if it is repealed?
>Will an additional 13 million people be randomly shot?
>
>I was thinking;
>If Donald Trump deleted all of his emails, wiped his server with
>Bleachbit and destroyed all of his phones with a hammer, would the
>Mainstream Media suddenly lose all interest in the story and declare him
>innocent?
>
>I was thinking;
>If women do the same job for less money, why do companies hire men to do
>the same job for more money?
>
>I was thinking;
>Each ISIS attack now is a reaction to Trump policies, but all ISIS
>attacks during Obama’s term were due to Climate Change and a plea for jobs.
>
>I was thinking;
>We should stop calling them all ‘Entitlements’. Welfare, Food Stamps,
>WIC, ad nausea are not entitlements. They are taxpayer-funded handouts,
>and shouldn’t be called entitlements at all.
>Social Security and Veterans Benefits are Entitlements because the
>people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid
>for by the recipients.
>
>I was thinking;
>If Muslims want to run away from a Muslim country, does that mean
>they’re Islamophobic?
>
>I was thinking;
>If Liberals don’t believe in biological gender then why did they march
>for women’s rights?
>
>I was thinking;
>How did the Russians get Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to steal
>the Primary from Bernie Sanders?
>
>I was thinking;
>Why is it that Democrats think Super delegates are fine, but they have a
>problem with the Electoral College?
>
>I was thinking;
>If you don’t want the FBI involved in elections, don’t nominate someone
>who’s being investigated by the FBI.
>
>I was thinking;
>If Hillary’s speeches cost $250,000 an hour, how come no one shows up to
>her free ones?
>
>I was thinking;
>The DNC is mad at Russia because they ‘think’ they are trying to
>manipulate our election by exposing that the DNC is manipulating our
>election.
>
>I was thinking; (this was the best)
>If Democrats don’t want foreigners involved in our elections, why do
>they think it’s all right for illegals to vote?
>
>Now my head hurts, I’m going to quit thinking for a while.
>
>---
>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>
>
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I was thinking the same thing.
Please keep your messages on this forum relevant to CCars.
- Jacob Field 1980 Gold ComutaCar
?
I was thinking:? If people on common-interest groups only posted messages relevant to that common interest, would the world be a better place?
I think maybe yes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Visit my very own website at
.... or just photos and stuff at
?
-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: George <lexchiro@...>
>Sent: Jul 20, 2019 5:07 PM
>To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>Subject: Fwd: I was thinking
>
>SOME TIMES IT HURTS TO THINK!!
>
>I was thinking;
>If only 11 million people have Obama-Care, how will 24 million people
>die if it is repealed?
>Will an additional 13 million people be randomly shot?
>
>I was thinking;
>If Donald Trump deleted all of his emails, wiped his server with
>Bleachbit and destroyed all of his phones with a hammer, would the
>Mainstream Media suddenly lose all interest in the story and declare him
>innocent?
>
>I was thinking;
>If women do the same job for less money, why do companies hire men to do
>the same job for more money?
>
>I was thinking;
>Each ISIS attack now is a reaction to Trump policies, but all ISIS
>attacks during Obama’s term were due to Climate Change and a plea for jobs.
>
>I was thinking;
>We should stop calling them all ‘Entitlements’. Welfare, Food Stamps,
>WIC, ad nausea are not entitlements. They are taxpayer-funded handouts,
>and shouldn’t be called entitlements at all.
>Social Security and Veterans Benefits are Entitlements because the
>people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid
>for by the recipients.
>
>I was thinking;
>If Muslims want to run away from a Muslim country, does that mean
>they’re Islamophobic?
>
>I was thinking;
>If Liberals don’t believe in biological gender then why did they march
>for women’s rights?
>
>I was thinking;
>How did the Russians get Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to steal
>the Primary from Bernie Sanders?
>
>I was thinking;
>Why is it that Democrats think Super delegates are fine, but they have a
>problem with the Electoral College?
>
>I was thinking;
>If you don’t want the FBI involved in elections, don’t nominate someone
>who’s being investigated by the FBI.
>
>I was thinking;
>If Hillary’s speeches cost $250,000 an hour, how come no one shows up to
>her free ones?
>
>I was thinking;
>The DNC is mad at Russia because they ‘think’ they are trying to
>manipulate our election by exposing that the DNC is manipulating our
>election.
>
>I was thinking; (this was the best)
>If Democrats don’t want foreigners involved in our elections, why do
>they think it’s all right for illegals to vote?
>
>Now my head hurts, I’m going to quit thinking for a while.
>
>---
>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>
>
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I was thinking:? If people on common-interest groups only posted messages relevant to that common interest, would the world be a better place?
I think maybe yes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Visit my very own website at
.... or just photos and stuff at
?
-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: George <lexchiro@...>
>Sent: Jul 20, 2019 5:07 PM
>To: undisclosed-recipients:;
>Subject: Fwd: I was thinking
>
>SOME TIMES IT HURTS TO THINK!!
>
>I was thinking;
>If only 11 million people have Obama-Care, how will 24 million people
>die if it is repealed?
>Will an additional 13 million people be randomly shot?
>
>I was thinking;
>If Donald Trump deleted all of his emails, wiped his server with
>Bleachbit and destroyed all of his phones with a hammer, would the
>Mainstream Media suddenly lose all interest in the story and declare him
>innocent?
>
>I was thinking;
>If women do the same job for less money, why do companies hire men to do
>the same job for more money?
>
>I was thinking;
>Each ISIS attack now is a reaction to Trump policies, but all ISIS
>attacks during Obama’s term were due to Climate Change and a plea for jobs.
>
>I was thinking;
>We should stop calling them all ‘Entitlements’. Welfare, Food Stamps,
>WIC, ad nausea are not entitlements. They are taxpayer-funded handouts,
>and shouldn’t be called entitlements at all.
>Social Security and Veterans Benefits are Entitlements because the
>people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid
>for by the recipients.
>
>I was thinking;
>If Muslims want to run away from a Muslim country, does that mean
>they’re Islamophobic?
>
>I was thinking;
>If Liberals don’t believe in biological gender then why did they march
>for women’s rights?
>
>I was thinking;
>How did the Russians get Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to steal
>the Primary from Bernie Sanders?
>
>I was thinking;
>Why is it that Democrats think Super delegates are fine, but they have a
>problem with the Electoral College?
>
>I was thinking;
>If you don’t want the FBI involved in elections, don’t nominate someone
>who’s being investigated by the FBI.
>
>I was thinking;
>If Hillary’s speeches cost $250,000 an hour, how come no one shows up to
>her free ones?
>
>I was thinking;
>The DNC is mad at Russia because they ‘think’ they are trying to
>manipulate our election by exposing that the DNC is manipulating our
>election.
>
>I was thinking; (this was the best)
>If Democrats don’t want foreigners involved in our elections, why do
>they think it’s all right for illegals to vote?
>
>Now my head hurts, I’m going to quit thinking for a while.
>
>---
>This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
>
>
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From: George <lexchiro@...>
Sent: Jul 20, 2019 5:07 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: Fwd: I was thinking
SOME TIMES IT HURTS TO THINK!!
I was thinking;
If only 11 million people have Obama-Care, how will 24 million people
die if it is repealed?
Will an additional 13 million people be randomly shot?
I was thinking;
If Donald Trump deleted all of his emails, wiped his server with
Bleachbit and destroyed all of his phones with a hammer, would the
Mainstream Media suddenly lose all interest in the story and declare him
innocent?
I was thinking;
If women do the same job for less money, why do companies hire men to do
the same job for more money?
I was thinking;
Each ISIS attack now is a reaction to Trump policies, but all ISIS
attacks during Obama’s term were due to Climate Change and a plea for jobs.
I was thinking;
We should stop calling them all ‘Entitlements’. Welfare, Food Stamps,
WIC, ad nausea are not entitlements. They are taxpayer-funded handouts,
and shouldn’t be called entitlements at all.
Social Security and Veterans Benefits are Entitlements because the
people receiving them are entitled to them. They were earned and paid
for by the recipients.
I was thinking;
If Muslims want to run away from a Muslim country, does that mean
they’re Islamophobic?
I was thinking;
If Liberals don’t believe in biological gender then why did they march
for women’s rights?
I was thinking;
How did the Russians get Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the DNC to steal
the Primary from Bernie Sanders?
I was thinking;
Why is it that Democrats think Super delegates are fine, but they have a
problem with the Electoral College?
I was thinking;
If you don’t want the FBI involved in elections, don’t nominate someone
who’s being investigated by the FBI.
I was thinking;
If Hillary’s speeches cost $250,000 an hour, how come no one shows up to
her free ones?
I was thinking;
The DNC is mad at Russia because they ‘think’ they are trying to
manipulate our election by exposing that the DNC is manipulating our
election.
I was thinking; (this was the best)
If Democrats don’t want foreigners involved in our elections, why do
they think it’s all right for illegals to vote?
Now my head hurts, I’m going to quit thinking for a while.
---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
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Re: Lost my hydraulic brakes
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Throwing a reminder out to you guys be familiar with how to use your handbrake and that it works. Going down a big hill I had a tourist slam on the brakes in front of me I had to hit the brakes hard and now my hydraulic brakes aren't working properly. I had to use the handbrake as my only break to get the car back home. I will be looking into tomorrow to see if it's low on fluid and maybe that's what happened is it sucked air or if the cylinder has an issue. I am getting minor breaking capabilities out of it right now but not nearly enough to stop the car. I'll keep you guys posted if it needs a rebuild or it was just low on fluid.
?The original C-car came with? single circuit brake system.? Indication is only one line coming from the master cylinder.? This is about as safe as a lit match and gasoline.
Most have been converted to 2 channel system with 2 lines coming out of the master cylinder.? If you don't have that, I'd park the car until you can fix it.? I think Pinto parts were usually used but as I hit my 65th birthday I'm suffering from rapid onset memory loss so don't rely on me for that.
John
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Re: Lost my hydraulic brakes
For the rear lights I just have a micro switch controlling them. My brake lines have a very minor leak somewhere I can tell from a stain in the place at parks on occasion they'll be I just coloring on the ground. I haven't popped open the top to see if that could have lost enough fluid to cause this problem. But I didn't notice anything funny leading up to it I've had a little bit farther of pedal depressing for breaking over the past couple of months then usual. I drive the car almost daily so I'm quite familiar with using it and using the handbrake if I needed to. It's always good to be prepared for a failure
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Dave Brice dbrice3721@... [C-Car]" <C-Car@...> Date: 7/15/19 6:37 AM (GMT-05:00) To: C-Car@... Subject: Re: [C-Car] Lost my hydraulic brakes
Glad you're ok after that experience! My first thought is that maybe you had a little air left, or low on fluid. and when the brakes were slammed the safety switch proportion valve blocked off your fronts or rears due to the pressure difference. Did your brake warning light illuminate?
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Throwing a reminder out to you guys be familiar with how to use your handbrake and that it works. Going down a big hill I had a tourist slam on the brakes in front of me I had to hit the brakes hard and now my hydraulic brakes aren't working properly. I had to use the handbrake as my only break to get the car back home. I will be looking into tomorrow to see if it's low on fluid and maybe that's what happened is it sucked air or if the cylinder has an issue. I am getting minor breaking capabilities out of it right now but not nearly enough to stop the car. I'll keep you guys posted if it needs a rebuild or it was just low on fluid.
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Re: Lost my hydraulic brakes
Glad you're ok after that experience! My first thought is that maybe you had a little air left, or low on fluid. and when the brakes were slammed the safety switch proportion valve blocked off your fronts or rears due to the pressure difference. Did your brake warning light illuminate?
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Throwing a reminder out to you guys be familiar with how to use your handbrake and that it works. Going down a big hill I had a tourist slam on the brakes in front of me I had to hit the brakes hard and now my hydraulic brakes aren't working properly. I had to use the handbrake as my only break to get the car back home. I will be looking into tomorrow to see if it's low on fluid and maybe that's what happened is it sucked air or if the cylinder has an issue. I am getting minor breaking capabilities out of it right now but not nearly enough to stop the car. I'll keep you guys posted if it needs a rebuild or it was just low on fluid.
Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android Device
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Throwing a reminder out to you guys be familiar with how to use your handbrake and that it works. Going down a big hill I had a tourist slam on the brakes in front of me I had to hit the brakes hard and now my hydraulic brakes aren't working properly. I had to use the handbrake as my only break to get the car back home. I will be looking into tomorrow to see if it's low on fluid and maybe that's what happened is it sucked air or if the cylinder has an issue. I am getting minor breaking capabilities out of it right now but not nearly enough to stop the car. I'll keep you guys posted if it needs a rebuild or it was just low on fluid.
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Re: ComutaCar in Montrose, CA [4 Attachments]
So I took off my F/R Contactor and this is what the contacts looked like.? Pretty bad.
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Peter Crisitello
Nicholas Gee
Richard Oleson
NeonJohn