Re: identification numbers location [3 Attachments]
With the first pic that shows the wiper and the radio antenna, the vin tag would be under the windshield on the dash between the wiper blade and the antenna.
Mark
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The body of one of them look in very good shape. Nice examples of comutacar’s!!
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I have some pictures there not very good.
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Look under drivers side windshield
I'm in Buena Park and would like so picture of what you got
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Where are the identification numbers located to find out what year and the serial number of citicar or comutacar? I think there is one
of each but i do not know enough about the cars to tell them apart. ihave two i want to sell in the long beach area of California. I will need the information for the bill of sale.?
Thanks for your time and help,
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Re: identification numbers location [3 Attachments]
They are both comutacars . The batteries would be in the bumpers.
Mark
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I have some pictures there not very good.
Both cars are complete.
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Look under drivers side windshield
I'm in Buena Park and would like so picture of what you got
Bart?
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Re: identification numbers location
I have some pictures there not very good. Both cars are complete.
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Look under drivers side windshield
I'm in Buena Park and would like so picture of what you got
Bart?
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Re: identification numbers location
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The ID tag [VIN plate] for both the CitiCar and the Comuta-Car are normally located on the top of the dash in front of the steering wheel [similar location
to all of today’s cars].? Looking in through the windshield you should see it down near the bottom.? If it is missing, than look for a paper tag attached to the side of the dash that can be viewed with the driver’s door opened.? If both of these are missing,
than remove the right side rear wheel and look for numbers engraved [etched into] the frame.? Depending on the year either the full number or the last four digits will be there.? 74, 75, and early 1976’s should have the full number.? 1976 ? , “A” model, and
Comuta Car’s should only have the last four digits engraved. [some 1979’s may not have the correct number, though].? If you find only the last four digits, let me know and I should be able to figure out the full number.?
Your CitiCar should have the batteries under the seat.? The Comuta-Car should have battery boxes behind the front and back bumper.? This is the easy way to
tell one from the other.?
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Where are the identification numbers located to find out what year and the serial number of citicar or comutacar? I think there is one of each but i do
not know enough about the cars to tell them apart. ihave two i want to sell in the long beach area of California. I will need the information for the bill of sale.?
Thanks for your time and help,
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i wonder, is there a way to move the original decals from the original hubcaps? my decals look great but chrome doesn't....
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Try Amazon.? They have several varieties of 12” hubcaps
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Does anyone know where I can get chrome after market hub caps for my Comutacar.
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Re: Just bought a 1970 something Citicar!
Also you can check the drivers side door up near the windshield. ?Mine had a paper with the vin # in it
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Sure, here is some more information:
- Previous Owner: Allan Weiner in Deland FL.
- He said it was purchased and sold a number of time since it was last on the road
- The last time it appears it was registered was in 1989 in Georgia. Plate number EFC-256. It appears the plate was used from 1983-1989, however who knows if it was on this car the whole time.
- Other than the batteries and parking brake lever, it appears to be all there the best I can tell.
- The body is in decent shape with only a couple of cracks in it.
- I paid $900 for it on 3/18/18
I'll take some pictures this weekend.
Harry - Orlando FL
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Re: identification numbers location
Look under drivers side windshield
I'm in Buena Park and would like so picture of what you got
Bart?
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Where are the identification numbers located to find out what year and the serial number of citicar or comutacar? I think there is one of each but i do not know enough about the cars to tell them apart. ihave two i want to sell in the long beach area of California. I will need the information for the bill of sale.?
Thanks for your time and help,
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Try Amazon.? They have several varieties of 12” hubcaps
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Does anyone know where I can get chrome after market hub caps for my Comutacar.
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identification numbers location
Where are the identification numbers located to find out what year and the serial number of citicar or comutacar? I think there is one of each but i do not know enough about the cars to tell them apart. ihave two i want to sell in the long beach area of California. I will need the information for the bill of sale.?
Thanks for your time and help,
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Does anyone know where I can get chrome after market hub caps for my Comutacar.
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Re: Just bought a 1970 something Citicar!
Sure, here is some more information: - Previous Owner: Allan Weiner in Deland FL. - He said it was purchased and sold a number of time since it was last on the road - The last time it appears it was registered was in 1989 in Georgia. Plate number EFC-256. It appears the plate was used from 1983-1989, however who knows if it was on this car the whole time. - Other than the batteries and parking brake lever, it appears to be all there the best I can tell. - The body is in decent shape with only a couple of cracks in it. - I paid $900 for it on 3/18/18 I'll take some pictures this weekend.
Harry - Orlando FL
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Re: Just bought a 1970 something Citicar!
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Thank you for this information.? Your 1974 is the 356th C-Car in my master file, now.? Any information on the previous owner would help me for my
archive file as well.? Also, the date you purchased it.? If you don’t mind sharing, could you tell me how much you purchased it for, to help with my Price guide information.? Thanks
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Peter Crisitello
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Rahway, NJ? 07065-2831
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Peter, thank you for the information and your work on the roster file. Here is some more information on the car and me:
Color Yellow (it is currently painted gold but the original color was yellow and I plan to repaint it)
I'll roll it out of the garage and take a decent picture in a couple of days.
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Re: Just bought a 1970 something Citicar!
Peter, thank you for the information and your work on the roster file. Here is some more information on the car and me:
Harry Armstrong Orlando, FL 32810 48 volt Color Yellow (it is currently painted gold but the original color was yellow and I plan to repaint it) Condition PR1
I'll roll it out of the garage and take a decent picture in a couple of days.
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Re: Just bought a 1970 something Citicar!
Harry:
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Welcome to the group.? Your serial number indicates you have CitiCar #117 built in June of 1974.? This is a new number to my master file.? However, I do have
#118 and it also was a June built vehicle.? For program purposes, I will give this vehicle my C-Car Code of 74S-1117.? That VIN index chart you referenced is somewhat misleading at times as the serial number pattern changed in January of 1976.? ??The SV/48
is your model name which also indicates the voltage as 48 Volts DC.? ?This was the upgraded model from the earlier SV/36 which was the initial 36 Volt model.? Most 1974 and all of the 1975 built CitiCar’s fall into this model range.? You can find some more
information on your CitiCar at the following URL’s.?
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If possible can you send me more information [on you, the car, & who you purchased it from] with a picture so I will add you to my Master file for the next
update of the online Roster of owners and their C-Car’s.?
If you have any questions or comments feel free to contact me.? Thank you for your time.?
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Peter Crisitello
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I just bought a Citicar to restore and have a huge list of questions. I'll just start with trying to figure out what year it is.
- The VIN number is 64SR1117.
- The labels on the side are SV48 (it has no batteries in it)
- The motor is parallel with the rear axle
- It has front disc brakes.
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If the 1117 in the VIN corresponds to the vehicle number, it doesn't jive with some of the information I have been able to obtain. I understand the 48 volts didn't start until car number 1501 (124SR1501). Also not sure why mine has the "64" in the VIN and
others have "124".
Can anyone help with more information?
Also, does anyone on the list with a Citicar live in the Orlando, FL area? I would love to see another one to see what parts I am missing. Other than the batteries, the only thing I know I am missing is the parking brake lever.?
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Harry - Orlando FL.
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I just bought a Citicar to restore and have a huge list of questions. I'll just start with trying to figure out what year it is. - The VIN number is 64SR1117.
- The labels on the side are SV48 (it has no batteries in it) - The motor is parallel with the rear axle - It has front disc brakes.
If the 1117 in the VIN corresponds to the vehicle number, it doesn't jive with some of the information I have been able to obtain. I understand the 48 volts didn't start until car number 1501 (124SR1501). Also not sure why mine has the "64" in the VIN and others have "124". Can anyone help with more information? Also, does anyone on the list with a Citicar live in the Orlando, FL area? I would love to see another one to see what parts I am missing. Other than the batteries, the only thing I know I am missing is the parking brake lever.?
Thanks, Harry - Orlando FL.
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Re: Just bought a 1970 something Citicar!
-SAMPLE VIN-
84SR1358
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-|-|--|--|--- 8 ........ August ............ Manufactured in August
--|--|--|--- 4 ........ 1974 .............. Manufactured in 1974
?? ---|--|--- SR ....... Sebring Vanguard .. Maufactured by Sebring Vanguard
????? ---|--- 1358 ..... 1358 .............. Serial number 1358
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So you have a June 1974 Citicar with a serial number 1117
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I just bought a Citicar to restore and have a huge list of questions. I'll just start with trying to figure out what year it is.
- The VIN number is 64SR1117.
- The labels on the side are SV48 (it has no batteries in it)
- The motor is parallel with the rear axle
- It has front disc brakes.
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If the 1117 in the VIN corresponds to the vehicle number, it doesn't jive with some of the information I have been able to obtain. I understand the 48 volts didn't start until car number 1501 (124SR1501). Also not sure why mine has the "64" in the VIN and
others have "124".
Can anyone help with more information?
Also, does anyone on the list with a Citicar live in the Orlando, FL area? I would love to see another one to see what parts I am missing. Other than the batteries, the only thing I know I am missing is the parking brake lever.?
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Thanks,
Harry - Orlando FL.
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Just bought a 1970 something Citicar!
I just bought a Citicar to restore and have a huge list of questions. I'll just start with trying to figure out what year it is. - The VIN number is 64SR1117.
- The labels on the side are SV48 (it has no batteries in it) - The motor is parallel with the rear axle - It has front disc brakes.
If the 1117 in the VIN corresponds to the vehicle number, it doesn't jive with some of the information I have been able to obtain. I understand the 48 volts didn't start until car number 1501 (124SR1501). Also not sure why mine has the "64" in the VIN and others have "124". Can anyone help with more information? Also, does anyone on the list with a Citicar live in the Orlando, FL area? I would love to see another one to see what parts I am missing. Other than the batteries, the only thing I know I am missing is the parking brake lever.?
Thanks, Harry - Orlando FL.
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Re: Posible EV Museum Display
There was both a?Tropica and a Zebra for sale in Laguna Beach. They went to a collector in San Diego. Look at the old posts for his contact information if you want to find them.? ?
From: "NeonJohn jgd@... [C-Car]"
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On 03/19/2018 01:58 AM, Peter Crisitello crisitel@...
[C-Car] wrote:
> All:
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> As some of you may remember, I have been looking to set up a deal for
> some type of Display of our C-Cars & if possible at least one Tropica
> at a museum somewhere in the country. While I have nothing currently
> planned, I would like to get together a list of owners who might be
> interested in loaning their vehicles for a limited display at some
> time in the future!? One possibility on the horizon is working with
> a newly form museum to bolster their foot traffic. I have a
> possibility here in NJ with such an entity. What I would like is a
> time line display of C-Cars leading to the Tropica [or Zebra if I
> ever get mine in a more presentable condition]. While the display
> vehicles do not need to be in running condition I would like them to
> look as original as possible. My 1977 ?�?A?�? Model would all into
> this category.
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hI Peter,
I think NuJoesy would be a horrible place to do this. After all, who
wants to go there unless they have to.
There is a fabulous museum called the Floyd Garrett's Muscle Car Museum
in Sevierville,TN. He has a section set aside for quaint little cars
like the Izetta and some I've never heard of.
Sevierville would be an ideal place. Right off the interstate.
Millions of people pass through there every year on the way to
Gatlinburg, TN's huge tourist trap, and to the Smoky Mountains National
Park.
The guy originally built the museum to display his own collection. He's
expanded at least twice and is reported to have the largest collection
of muscle cars on display in America. He loves to display loaners.
http://www.musclecarmuseum.com/
This area is centrally located for traffic in the eastern US which is
why nearby Knoxville, TN is a huge transportation hum.
John
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Re: Posible EV Museum Display
On 03/19/2018 01:58 AM, Peter Crisitello crisitel@... [C-Car] wrote: All:
As some of you may remember, I have been looking to set up a deal for
some type of Display of our C-Cars & if possible at least one Tropica
at a museum somewhere in the country. While I have nothing currently
planned, I would like to get together a list of owners who might be
interested in loaning their vehicles for a limited display at some
time in the future!? One possibility on the horizon is working with
a newly form museum to bolster their foot traffic. I have a
possibility here in NJ with such an entity. What I would like is a
time line display of C-Cars leading to the Tropica [or Zebra if I
ever get mine in a more presentable condition]. While the display
vehicles do not need to be in running condition I would like them to
look as original as possible. My 1977 ?�?A?�? Model would all into
this category.
hI Peter, I think NuJoesy would be a horrible place to do this. After all, who wants to go there unless they have to. There is a fabulous museum called the Floyd Garrett's Muscle Car Museum in Sevierville,TN. He has a section set aside for quaint little cars like the Izetta and some I've never heard of. Sevierville would be an ideal place. Right off the interstate. Millions of people pass through there every year on the way to Gatlinburg, TN's huge tourist trap, and to the Smoky Mountains National Park. The guy originally built the museum to display his own collection. He's expanded at least twice and is reported to have the largest collection of muscle cars on display in America. He loves to display loaners. This area is centrally located for traffic in the eastern US which is why nearby Knoxville, TN is a huge transportation hum. John -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains, Occupied TN <-- THE source for induction heaters <-- email from here <-- Best damned Blog on the net PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77
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I'm all for whatever it takes for anyone to enjoy their citicar. Do it your way, just save your parts to help out another needy Citi.? Any driving Citi has to be better than one rotting away forgotten. If more than one gets saved in the process, that's great!
Motorcycle engines generally do not have reverse. Some atv/quad things might work.? Lawnmower engines are usually vertical shaft which may be a pain.? Adding a clutch pedal may prove difficult. Rear end gearing is not great for gas.? Adding a fuel tank will probably put it somewhere less than awesome.? Gas engine may not prove legal on roads.?
If you go nuts I want to see a Mazda rotary in it. They are tiny, and cool, but not good on gas. Just a thought ;)
For me, there is no option besides electric, but I fit what the citicar was designed for just right. If I needed to go beyond it's range daily, I'd still want to enjoy my car too, and would be looking to extend is range.?
With that said, it seems easier to take the route of improving your electric range. I think it's your most viable option, unless you have a whole donor gas cart just sitting.?
But, do what you like. It's your car. I'll be cheering you on whatever you choose. Just do a good safe job, take lots of pictures, and enjoy it.?
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Peter Crisitello
NeonJohn