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IPGATEWAY with existing ampr-ripd gateway #bpqconfig #network


 

Hi All,

I have a BPQ32 install that I would like to get on the 44Net.? I also have an existing ampr-ripd gateway on a seperate Linux box.? I've done some research and come up with the following IPGATEWAY definition.? Before I actually add this to my config file, I'd like those that know this stuff better than I do, to eyeball it and let me know if it is (likely) correct.? I tried a few other IPGATEWAY configs and broke things pretty badly (fortunately I was able to recover from them quickly).? So now, I want to check with you all.

IPGATEWAY
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Adapter \Device\NPF_{ECDB1154-982B-48D3-A394-785AC42588E3}? # Windows adapter from bpqadapters.exe
IPAddr 10.1.10.12? ? ? ? ? ?# IP address of the BPQ32 switch on my LAN (I do have an allocated 44Net address [44.52.67.2], should this be that or the actual IP?)
IPNetmask 255.255.255.248? ? # Netmask of my AMPRNet allocation
IPPorts 1? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? # BPQ Port I will use for links to IP systems.
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ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.52.67.1 #With no "local" encap file, I think i need to add this route.? 44.52.67.1 is my 44Net gateway, or do I use it's local LAN address of 10.1.10.5?
ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.52.67.1 #Same here, which IP do I use?
****

Do I need a NAT statement for the BPQ box to translate the 44Net address to the LAN address??
If the above is correct (or when the above is correct), I assume it will allow me to make AX/IP connections to other 44Net addresses.

Your expert guidance is appreciated!
--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net
https://www.we1h.com


 

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Why do you want to run IPGATEWAY? If it is only to allow you to access 44 NET addresses you should only need to add routes to 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10 to your windows machine pointing to your 44 Gateway machine.

IPGATEWAY is needed to route IP packets over your RF links, and/or to run an AMPRNET gateway if you don't already have one.

73,
John

On 30/04/2023 20:46, Matt Atwood, WE1H wrote:

Hi All,

I have a BPQ32 install that I would like to get on the 44Net.? I also have an existing ampr-ripd gateway on a seperate Linux box.? I've done some research and come up with the following IPGATEWAY definition.? Before I actually add this to my config file, I'd like those that know this stuff better than I do, to eyeball it and let me know if it is (likely) correct.? I tried a few other IPGATEWAY configs and broke things pretty badly (fortunately I was able to recover from them quickly).? So now, I want to check with you all.

IPGATEWAY
?
Adapter \Device\NPF_{ECDB1154-982B-48D3-A394-785AC42588E3}? # Windows adapter from bpqadapters.exe
IPAddr 10.1.10.12? ? ? ? ? ?# IP address of the BPQ32 switch on my LAN (I do have an allocated 44Net address [44.52.67.2], should this be that or the actual IP?)
IPNetmask 255.255.255.248? ? # Netmask of my AMPRNet allocation
IPPorts 1? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? # BPQ Port I will use for links to IP systems.
?
ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.52.67.1 #With no "local" encap file, I think i need to add this route.? 44.52.67.1 is my 44Net gateway, or do I use it's local LAN address of 10.1.10.5?
ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.52.67.1 #Same here, which IP do I use?
****

Do I need a NAT statement for the BPQ box to translate the 44Net address to the LAN address??
If the above is correct (or when the above is correct), I assume it will allow me to make AX/IP connections to other 44Net addresses.

Your expert guidance is appreciated!
--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net


 

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Hi John,

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Thanks for the reply!? I didn’t include this in my original post (although I should have)…? my goal is to set up my BPQ Node to use AX/IP links to both “internet” and 44Net connected stations, and my understanding is that to do so requires an IPGATEWAY config section.? If I just need to set up routes in Windows, then I should be good.? Is that the case?

?

73,

?

Matt, WE1H

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John G8BPQ
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 3:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] IPGATEWAY with existing ampr-ripd gateway #bpqconfig #network

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Why do you want to run IPGATEWAY? If it is only to allow you to access 44 NET addresses you should only need to add routes to 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10 to your windows machine pointing to your 44 Gateway machine.

IPGATEWAY is needed to route IP packets over your RF links, and/or to run an AMPRNET gateway if you don't already have one.

73,
John

On 30/04/2023 20:46, Matt Atwood, WE1H wrote:

Hi All,

I have a BPQ32 install that I would like to get on the 44Net.? I also have an existing ampr-ripd gateway on a seperate Linux box.? I've done some research and come up with the following IPGATEWAY definition.? Before I actually add this to my config file, I'd like those that know this stuff better than I do, to eyeball it and let me know if it is (likely) correct.? I tried a few other IPGATEWAY configs and broke things pretty badly (fortunately I was able to recover from them quickly).? So now, I want to check with you all.

IPGATEWAY

?

Adapter \Device\NPF_{ECDB1154-982B-48D3-A394-785AC42588E3}? # Windows adapter from bpqadapters.exe

IPAddr 10.1.10.12? ? ? ? ? ?# IP address of the BPQ32 switch on my LAN (I do have an allocated 44Net address [44.52.67.2], should this be that or the actual IP?)

IPNetmask 255.255.255.248? ? # Netmask of my AMPRNet allocation

IPPorts 1? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? # BPQ Port I will use for links to IP systems.

?

ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.52.67.1 #With no "local" encap file, I think i need to add this route.? 44.52.67.1 is my 44Net gateway, or do I use it's local LAN address of 10.1.10.5?

ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.52.67.1 #Same here, which IP do I use?

****

Do I need a NAT statement for the BPQ box to translate the 44Net address to the LAN address??
If the above is correct (or when the above is correct), I assume it will allow me to make AX/IP connections to other 44Net addresses.

Your expert guidance is appreciated!

--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net

?


--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net
http://www.we1h.com


 

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Yes, it should work with the Windows routes and no IPGATEWAY.

73,
John

On 01/05/2023 12:54, Matt Atwood, WE1H wrote:

Hi John,

?

Thanks for the reply!? I didn’t include this in my original post (although I should have)…? my goal is to set up my BPQ Node to use AX/IP links to both “internet” and 44Net connected stations, and my understanding is that to do so requires an IPGATEWAY config section.? If I just need to set up routes in Windows, then I should be good.? Is that the case?

?

73,

?

Matt, WE1H

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John G8BPQ
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 3:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] IPGATEWAY with existing ampr-ripd gateway #bpqconfig #network

?

Why do you want to run IPGATEWAY? If it is only to allow you to access 44 NET addresses you should only need to add routes to 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10 to your windows machine pointing to your 44 Gateway machine.

IPGATEWAY is needed to route IP packets over your RF links, and/or to run an AMPRNET gateway if you don't already have one.

73,
John

On 30/04/2023 20:46, Matt Atwood, WE1H wrote:

Hi All,

I have a BPQ32 install that I would like to get on the 44Net.? I also have an existing ampr-ripd gateway on a seperate Linux box.? I've done some research and come up with the following IPGATEWAY definition.? Before I actually add this to my config file, I'd like those that know this stuff better than I do, to eyeball it and let me know if it is (likely) correct.? I tried a few other IPGATEWAY configs and broke things pretty badly (fortunately I was able to recover from them quickly).? So now, I want to check with you all.

IPGATEWAY

?

Adapter \Device\NPF_{ECDB1154-982B-48D3-A394-785AC42588E3}? # Windows adapter from bpqadapters.exe

IPAddr 10.1.10.12? ? ? ? ? ?# IP address of the BPQ32 switch on my LAN (I do have an allocated 44Net address [44.52.67.2], should this be that or the actual IP?)

IPNetmask 255.255.255.248? ? # Netmask of my AMPRNet allocation

IPPorts 1? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? # BPQ Port I will use for links to IP systems.

?

ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.52.67.1 #With no "local" encap file, I think i need to add this route.? 44.52.67.1 is my 44Net gateway, or do I use it's local LAN address of 10.1.10.5?

ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.52.67.1 #Same here, which IP do I use?

****

Do I need a NAT statement for the BPQ box to translate the 44Net address to the LAN address??
If the above is correct (or when the above is correct), I assume it will allow me to make AX/IP connections to other 44Net addresses.

Your expert guidance is appreciated!

--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net

?


--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net


 

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Thanks John,

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I added the two routes suggested, and? a second NIC to the Windows box and gave it my allocated 44Net address for the node.? I had to delete the default route for the 44 network, then all worked as expected.? Now just awaiting my AX/IP partner to add me to his config.

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Thanks!

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  • Matt, WE1H

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John G8BPQ
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 11:07 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] IPGATEWAY with existing ampr-ripd gateway #bpqconfig #network

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Yes, it should work with the Windows routes and no IPGATEWAY.

73,
John

On 01/05/2023 12:54, Matt Atwood, WE1H wrote:

Hi John,

?

Thanks for the reply!? I didn’t include this in my original post (although I should have)…? my goal is to set up my BPQ Node to use AX/IP links to both “internet” and 44Net connected stations, and my understanding is that to do so requires an IPGATEWAY config section.? If I just need to set up routes in Windows, then I should be good.? Is that the case?

?

73,

?

Matt, WE1H

?

?

?

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of John G8BPQ
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 3:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] IPGATEWAY with existing ampr-ripd gateway #bpqconfig #network

?

Why do you want to run IPGATEWAY? If it is only to allow you to access 44 NET addresses you should only need to add routes to 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10 to your windows machine pointing to your 44 Gateway machine.

IPGATEWAY is needed to route IP packets over your RF links, and/or to run an AMPRNET gateway if you don't already have one.

73,
John

On 30/04/2023 20:46, Matt Atwood, WE1H wrote:

Hi All,

I have a BPQ32 install that I would like to get on the 44Net.? I also have an existing ampr-ripd gateway on a seperate Linux box.? I've done some research and come up with the following IPGATEWAY definition.? Before I actually add this to my config file, I'd like those that know this stuff better than I do, to eyeball it and let me know if it is (likely) correct.? I tried a few other IPGATEWAY configs and broke things pretty badly (fortunately I was able to recover from them quickly).? So now, I want to check with you all.

IPGATEWAY

?

Adapter \Device\NPF_{ECDB1154-982B-48D3-A394-785AC42588E3}? # Windows adapter from bpqadapters.exe

IPAddr 10.1.10.12? ? ? ? ? ?# IP address of the BPQ32 switch on my LAN (I do have an allocated 44Net address [44.52.67.2], should this be that or the actual IP?)

IPNetmask 255.255.255.248? ? # Netmask of my AMPRNet allocation

IPPorts 1? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? # BPQ Port I will use for links to IP systems.

?

ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.52.67.1 #With no "local" encap file, I think i need to add this route.? 44.52.67.1 is my 44Net gateway, or do I use it's local LAN address of 10.1.10.5?

ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.52.67.1 #Same here, which IP do I use?

****

Do I need a NAT statement for the BPQ box to translate the 44Net address to the LAN address??
If the above is correct (or when the above is correct), I assume it will allow me to make AX/IP connections to other 44Net addresses.

Your expert guidance is appreciated!

--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net

?


--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net

?


--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net
http://www.we1h.com


 

Just to close out on this topic.? I got AX/IP working with alot of help from Charles, N2NOV (Thanks Charles!).? Here's what worked.

Added a second adapter to the BPQ box and assigned my 44net address to it, but did not give it a gateway.
Delete all of my 44 net routes (including the default route) as I defined them incorrectly (wrong mask)
Added a persistent route to 44.0.0.0 mask 255.0.0.0 and bound it to my ethernet adapter with my 44 net address
Updated my BPQ config to include the AX/IP link I wanted
Waited a few minutes?
Connected

One gotcha though...? doing this seems to have disconnected my UDP connection to another partner with a 44 net address.? Now I can't reach him directly.? We'll solve that by changing to an AX/IP connection.? But that is a gotcha for sure.

Thanks for all the guidance.
--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net
http://www.we1h.com


 

44net is not 44.0.0.0/8 after the IP address sale a few years ago. Current proper routing netmask is a two parter - 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10


 

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Thanks for the heads up!

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73,

?

Matt, WE1H

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Matt Atwood

Merrimack, NH

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of kc9uhi@...
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 11:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] IPGATEWAY with existing ampr-ripd gateway #bpqconfig #network

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44net is not 44.0.0.0/8 after the IP address sale a few years ago. Current proper routing netmask is a two parter - 44.0.0.0/9 and 44.128.0.0/10


--
73,

- Matt, WE1H

we1h AT arrl.net
http://www.we1h.com