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AXTCP Links


 

Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.? Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.

Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this format if port 10200 were used:

MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B

Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.

Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..

73,
Lee K5DAT


 

Hi Lee - I had a similar experience when I switched to a wireless internet provider.? I found a simple way to tunnel through my ISP's CGNAT network architecture and it works very well with BPQ.? ??is a service that will permit you to expose up to 10 ports from your local host in your choice of protocols - TCP, UDP, HTTP, or TLS.? The cost is $5 per month for ten ports.? The service runs in PowerShell without a GUI so it is very light on resource use.? I run it on a Windows 10 machine and I do not know about options for other platforms.? I'll be glad to post my PowerShell scripts if others are interested.

73

Brian / W7BMH


 

Hi Lee

Same situation for YD0BCX which is the solution I implemented for him in Indonesia.

Dang typo monster ate your map line - for anyone reading its: TCP-Slave.

I have updated your maps on both my nodes (not sure if you had a link to -5 as its an auto udp-map node)

pe1rrr-5 rrrnet.ehvairport.com?
pe1rrr-7 static.ehvairport.com

73
Red


 

Thanks Red, yes, the keyboard on the laptop is getting worn out - a symptom of inheriting it from my wife.? I have a few links up now with others thus proving it works. :-)

I assume from your response that you used port 10200 (repeating the map below without the typo).

MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Slave 10200 B

For clarification, no one else can use that port to connect to K5DAT-7 now that I'm using it for a link to Red.

Lee K5DAT


On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 4:27?PM PacketCat Red PE1RRR <rrrtuby@...> wrote:
Hi Lee

Same situation for YD0BCX which is the solution I implemented for him in Indonesia.

Dang typo monster ate your map line - for anyone reading its: TCP-Slave.

I have updated your maps on both my nodes (not sure if you had a link to -5 as its an auto udp-map node)

pe1rrr-5 ?
pe1rrr-7

73
Red


 

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 04:08 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:
Thanks Red, yes, the keyboard on the laptop is getting worn out - a symptom of inheriting it from my wife.? I have a few links up now with others thus proving it works. :-)
?
I assume from your response that you used port 10200 (repeating the map below without the typo).
?
MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Slave 10200 B
?
For clarification, no one else can use that port to connect to K5DAT-7 now that I'm using it for a link to Red.

Hi Lee

Can you do an experiment to see if you can use 10200 outbound to my two nodes and see if they work. It is my limited understanding that when traversing NAT, the source port exiting the NAT is randomised, the destination is of course not. Theoretically unless BPQ is doing something unexpected, the two outbound links you make to two different designations on the same port would be treated as independent of each other. ?Good experiment to try, but if you do try it make sure there¡¯s traffic going through both at the same time.

If this works it could help simplify TCP-Slave setup for others.

It¡¯s 100% certain the destination host must have a unique port open just for your link on their end. 10200 was the actual upper end of my range I had open for TCP links on -7, I¡¯ve increased that to 10300 for the future.?

Ping me via email pe1rrr at amsat dot org to catch my attention as quick as possible to set another port in case it doesn¡¯t work.

73
Red


 


On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 6:17 PM PacketCat Red PE1RRR <rrrtuby@...> wrote:

Hi Lee

Can you do an experiment to see if you can use 10200 outbound to my two nodes and see if they work. It is my limited understanding that when traversing NAT, the source port exiting the NAT is randomised, the destination is of course not. Theoretically unless BPQ is doing something unexpected, the two outbound links you make to two different designations on the same port would be treated as independent of each other.? Good experiment to try, but if you do try it make sure there¡¯s traffic going through both at the same time.

If this works it could help simplify TCP-Slave setup for others.

It¡¯s 100% certain the destination host must have a unique port open just for your link on their end. 10200 was the actual upper end of my range I had open for TCP links on -7, I¡¯ve increased that to 10300 for the future.?

_.,
Great catch. I can use the same port to your -7? and -5. Both links are up. That does indeed simplify using AXTCP.? The map I posted can be used by multiple stations - contrary to what I said earlier.?

Lee K5DAT?
._,_


 

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 05:03 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 6:17 PM PacketCat Red PE1RRR <rrrtuby@...> wrote:

Hi Lee

Can you do an experiment to see if you can use 10200 outbound to my two nodes and see if they work. It is my limited understanding that when traversing NAT, the source port exiting the NAT is randomised, the destination is of course not. Theoretically unless BPQ is doing something unexpected, the two outbound links you make to two different designations on the same port would be treated as independent of each other.? Good experiment to try, but if you do try it make sure there¡¯s traffic going through both at the same time.

If this works it could help simplify TCP-Slave setup for others.

It¡¯s 100% certain the destination host must have a unique port open just for your link on their end. 10200 was the actual upper end of my range I had open for TCP links on -7, I¡¯ve increased that to 10300 for the future.?

_.,
Great catch. I can use the same port to your -7? and -5. Both links are up. That does indeed simplify using AXTCP.? The map I posted can be used by multiple stations - contrary to what I said earlier.?
?
Lee K5DAT?
._,_

?

?


Nice one Lee, thanks for confirming- gonna write this down/up somewhere!?
Would love to see some pics of your new place in rural area, sounds like a nice move despite the internet situation, lots of greenery I hope :-)

73
Red


 

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If you want to host more than one TCP-Slave links they must use different ports, but a TCP-Master can connect to more than one site using the one port.

73,
John


On 29/04/2023 01:11, PacketCat Red PE1RRR wrote:

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 05:03 PM, Lee Bengston wrote:

On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 6:17 PM PacketCat Red PE1RRR <rrrtuby@...> wrote:

Hi Lee

Can you do an experiment to see if you can use 10200 outbound to my two nodes and see if they work. It is my limited understanding that when traversing NAT, the source port exiting the NAT is randomised, the destination is of course not. Theoretically unless BPQ is doing something unexpected, the two outbound links you make to two different designations on the same port would be treated as independent of each other.? Good experiment to try, but if you do try it make sure there¡¯s traffic going through both at the same time.

If this works it could help simplify TCP-Slave setup for others.

It¡¯s 100% certain the destination host must have a unique port open just for your link on their end. 10200 was the actual upper end of my range I had open for TCP links on -7, I¡¯ve increased that to 10300 for the future.?

_.,
Great catch. I can use the same port to your -7? and -5. Both links are up. That does indeed simplify using AXTCP.? The map I posted can be used by multiple stations - contrary to what I said earlier.?
?
Lee K5DAT?
._,_

?

?


Nice one Lee, thanks for confirming- gonna write this down/up somewhere!?
Would love to see some pics of your new place in rural area, sounds like a nice move despite the internet situation, lots of greenery I hope :-)

73
Red


 

Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "g8pzt.noip.me" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.

Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
their side as the slave. In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
format if port 10200 were used:

MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B

Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.

Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..

73,
Lee K5DAT





 

Thanks Paula!? I'll try both BPQ and XRouter when I get a chance.

Lee K5DAT?

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023, 7:10 AM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>







 

On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 05:10 AM, Paula wrote:
Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "g8pzt.noip.me" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.

Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
their side as the slave. In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
format if port 10200 were used:

MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B

Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.

Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..

73,
Lee K5DAT





Hi Paula
I was also curious! - does not appear to work, I get an error message from BPQ and this is a packet trace:

15:55:13.375868 IP red.44243 > Paula.9393: Flags [S], seq 653775634, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 2610925710 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
0x0000: ?4500 003c 4c2f 4000 4006 994e c0a8 012a ?E..<L/@[email protected]...*
0x0010: ?5221 414b acd3 24b1 26f7 d312 0000 0000 ?R!AK..$.&.......
0x0020: ?a002 faf0 556d 0000 0204 05b4 0402 080a ?....Um..........
0x0030: ?9b9f 908e 0000 0000 0103 0307 ? ? ? ? ? ?............
15:55:13.415116 IP Paula.9393 > red.44243: Flags [R.], seq 0, ack 653775635, win 0, length 0
0x0000: ?4500 0028 dac7 0000 7406 16ca 5221 414b ?E..(....t...R!AK
0x0010: ?c0a8 012a 24b1 acd3 0000 0000 26f7 d313 ?...*$.......&...
0x0020: ?5014 0000 8f02 0000 0000 0000 0000 ? ? ? P.............


Any clues in this??
73
Red


 

Hi Paula,

I am not using Xrouter here but do have several active BPQ AXTCP links where my end is the slave. Outside of my own lab testing I have not had an opportunity to test an external AXTCP link with my end being the master but was intrigued to try given the info you provided. Initial testing shows an exchange of traffic but no BPQ link is established.

Tcpdump on the BPQ system here shows:

09:51:03.600102 IP 192.168.1.139.33155 > brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393: Flags [S], seq 3045083897, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 1072902549 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
09:51:03.718534 IP brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393 > 192.168.1.139.33155: Flags [R.], seq 0, ack 3045083898, win 0, length 0

And on my router shows:

13:51:03.596673 IP c-73-165-23-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net.33155 > brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393: Flags [S], seq 3045083897, win 64240, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 1072902549 ecr 0,nop,wscale 7], length 0
13:51:03.712663 IP brom-11-b2-v4wan-165874-cust330.vm31.cable.virginm.net.9393 > c-73-165-23-36.hsd1.pa.comcast.net.33155: Flags [R.], seq 0, ack 3045083898, win 0, length 0

So we are exchanging packets but BPQ so far does not like something...

73 de Rich WA3WLH


 

Hi Red, thank you for the test. I haven't yet decoded the packet, but I think there's a major difference between how xrouter and bpq do axtcp.?

I don't know how bpq does it, but in xrouter the server and client first exchange 17 byte packets to "register" their callsign and aliases with each other.?

I'd forgotten about that. Doh!?


 

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Yes, I just send kiss encapsulated packets.

73,
John

On 29/04/2023 17:52, Paula via groups.io wrote:

Hi Red, thank you for the test. I haven't yet decoded the packet, but I think there's a major difference between how xrouter and bpq do axtcp.?

I don't know how bpq does it, but in xrouter the server and client first exchange 17 byte packets to "register" their callsign and aliases with each other.?

I'd forgotten about that. Doh!?



 

Oh well, at least I now know that it doesn't work, and why it doesn't.?

Sent from my Huawei tablet


-------- Original message --------
From: John G8BPQ <john.wiseman@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 19:01
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Yes, I just send kiss encapsulated packets.

73,
John

On 29/04/2023 17:52, Paula via groups.io wrote:
Hi Red, thank you for the test. I haven't yet decoded the packet, but I think there's a major difference between how xrouter and bpq do axtcp.?

I don't know how bpq does it, but in xrouter the server and client first exchange 17 byte packets to "register" their callsign and aliases with each other.?

I'd forgotten about that. Doh!?



 

Hi Paula,

As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.

Thanks for the info,
Lee K5DAT



On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:10?AM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>







 

Hi Lee,?

I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?

I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?

Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!

Regards?
Paula?



-------- Original message --------
From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hi Paula,

As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.

Thanks for the info,
Lee K5DAT



On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:10?AM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>







 

Doh, that was supposed to be private mail, sorry everyone for the spam!!?

Sent from my Huawei tablet


-------- Original message --------
From: "Paula via groups.io" <g8pzt@...>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023, 02:35
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hi Lee,?

I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?

I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?

Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!

Regards?
Paula?



-------- Original message --------
From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hi Paula,

As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.

Thanks for the info,
Lee K5DAT



On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:10?AM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>







 

Hmm, it's also possible to set up KISS over TCP interfaces in BPQ - either as client or server.? Given the KISS over TCP clients of both BPQ and XR work with software such as SoundModem and Dire Wolf, I'm betting they are compatible with each other. Off the top of my head it seems those would be AX25 only, i.e. no netrom, but that would be "better than nada".

73,
Lee K5DAT


On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 8:35?PM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,?

I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?

I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?

Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!

Regards?
Paula?



-------- Original message --------
From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hi Paula,

As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.

Thanks for the info,
Lee K5DAT



On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:10?AM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>







Virus-free.


 

Hi Lee, I've just checked the code and it seems xrouter can do "ax25kisstcp" as either server or client, and the full networking stack is available. So it looks like bpq and xrouter might be able to interconnect after all.?

The trouble is, I can't remember how to set it up, and the documentation never got done (I don't think). It needs someone with more patience than me to try it.?

Regards?
Paula?



-------- Original message --------
From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...>
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2023, 03:17
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hmm, it's also possible to set up KISS over TCP interfaces in BPQ - either as client or server.? Given the KISS over TCP clients of both BPQ and XR work with software such as SoundModem and Dire Wolf, I'm betting they are compatible with each other. Off the top of my head it seems those would be AX25 only, i.e. no netrom, but that would be "better than nada".

73,
Lee K5DAT


On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 8:35?PM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,?

I'm glad you were able to link up using axtcp, and I'm happy to say that my connection still works :-)?

I have the port quality set low on the axtcp port so that my mobile node doesn't upset the netrom network too much when it comes and goes. It's also a good test of inp3.?

Now I know thay xrouter and bpq's axtcp implementations are different, I can work towards adding bpq's method without breaking mine. It is already possible for xr to do ax/kiss/tcp using a 'tcp' interface with protocol=kiss, but I expect that mine and John's framing methods are different!!

Regards?
Paula?



-------- Original message --------
From: Lee Bengston <kilo5dat@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023, 23:14
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [bpq32] AXTCP Links
Hi Paula,

As we found out, the XR and BPQ TCP implementations are different/incompatible.? Just to let you know, I do have a link up with G8PZT using AXTCP (client) on XRLin, K5DAT-5 using port 9394 per your private correction.

Thanks for the info,
Lee K5DAT



On Sat, Apr 29, 2023 at 7:10?AM Paula via <g8pzt=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Lee,

In case you (or anyone else :-) are interested, my XRPi node G8PZT:KIDDER in
the middle of England has an open AXTCP server on "" port 9393.

It has been in use for many years with Xrouter clients, but as far as I know
never with BPQ.

So if you want to try it, I'd be interested to know how you get on.

73, Paula

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Bengston" <kilo5dat@...>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2023 2:43 PM
Subject: [bpq32] AXTCP Links


> Hello to those on the list. I've just moved to new rural location, and it
> appears my wireless based internet service does not pass any unsolicited
> communication from the Internet to me. Even though I am using my own
> router, the port forwarding and ampr-ripd configurations are moot.
> Therefore I have no AXUDP using 10093, etc. and no ampret.
>
> Anyone interested in restoring their link with K5DAT-7 can use AXTCP with
> their side as the slave.? In that case the map for K5DAT-7 would use this
> format if port 10200 were used:
>
> MAP K5DAT-7 0.0.0.0 TCP-Save 10200 B
>
> Each AXTCP link must use a unique TCP port, and the slave side, i.e. your
> side, must forward the TCP port in the local router to the BPQ host. Feel
> free to email me directly to work things out. If there are further
> questions in general about AXTCP, feel free to ask them on list.
>
> Unfortunately I don't have a solution for JNOS and URONODE currently. As I
> recall XRouter supports AXTCP, so it may be a solution there. When I get
> some time I may try an AXTCP link across the LAN between BPQ and XRouter..
>
> 73,
> Lee K5DAT
>
>
>
>
>
>







Virus-free.