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Chat Server Config

 

Hello All,
I just discovered some strange behavior with 6.0.23.1 on Windows 10.
If you start the Chat Server first it complains of not finding its config in Appdata\Roaming\BPQ32 but instead works with a config in Appdata\Local\VirtualStore\Program File(x86)\BPQ32. If I start the Mail Server first, then the Chat Server, all is well and the config in Appdata\Roaming\BPQ32 is used as it should be.
Your mileage may vary...
Bob, NS2B


Re: IPGATEWAY, 44ENCAP and actual AMPRGW on remote wireguard host

 

Hi John,

Well yea I wanted to do encap routing back to my main encap termination point in that case.
It may not be as doable on bpq as I thought, i dont know.?

AFAIK, you cant tell bpq in the config to only use a virtual ip assigned to a aliased network nic in linux.
There is no way to specify source ips for tunnel endpoints?? Does it have to use whatever main ip that traffic exits on from the NIC perspective in linux?
Did i overlook something?


Re: IPGATEWAY, 44ENCAP and actual AMPRGW on remote wireguard host

 

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What do you want to use IPGATEWAY for? It's main purposes are to run IP over RF links or to provide an amprnet tunnel endpoint, but you already have the latter.

73,
John


On 16/07/2022 21:34, Kayne Kruse - N9SEO wrote:

Hi,

I am struggling to find a way to make linbpq work with IPGATEWAY.??? OS is Debian 10, kernel 4.19.0-16-686-pae patched with Marius' YO2LOJ AX25 "else" patch for linux ax25.

My IPIP endpoint is a linux box on the far end of a wireguard link and uses the main linux gw ip 44.76.0.193 as the routable wireguard ip and terminates to the linux host at 44.76.0.205
BPQ runs on top that linux box at 44.76.0.205, but I want to use 44.76.0.195 as the IPIP/amprnet ip on BPQ in IPGATEWAY.?

I cannot figure out the correct BPQ config to make it talk to linux routing table and sort the rest out.? The routes are all in linux on the device bpq runs on but since TAP wont talk to interface wg0 because it is not tappable, not sure what my option is.

Over the wire in a packet dump it should look like

44.76.0.205 -> 44.76.0.193 proto ipip
44.76.0.195 -> ANYTUNNELED_44_IP

vice versa on the return path.? Regardless IPIP packets need to get to 44.76.0.193 via linux kernel routing to work in wireguard.

I do this this way because at the linux amprnet gw its easily controls ingress to only allow amprnet ips to access my amprnet ips from a centralized firewall at the router gw.

I hope that makes sense, but perhaps I am not clear.?? Let me know if you need anything further.


IPGATEWAY
ADAPTER enp1s0
44ENCAP 192.168.200.205 ; or I can use 44.76.0.193 as the encap endpoint or an unused lan IP.? None seemed to do much usefulness.
IPADDR 44.76.0.195
IPNETMASK 255.255.255.255
NODEFAULTROUTE
IPPORTS 1
ROUTE 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.200.205
;ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.76.0.193 T? # dont use these, they override linux routes present from wireguard and tie them to LinBPQTAP interface, not desired - Using kernel routing is desired here, I use wireguard and freerrp's bgp to manage route tables and they write to linux routes.
;ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.76.0.193 T
***

I've tried various route's above but removed them as they werent helpful,

Is there any hope or am I completely out there due to my unique situation?

Thanks for reading this.

73 Kayne - n9seo




Re: IPGATEWAY, 44ENCAP and actual AMPRGW on remote wireguard host

 

IPGATEWAY
ADAPTER eth0
IPADDR 192.168.1.9
IPNETMASK 255.255.255.0
NODEFAULTROUTE
ENABLESNMP
****

It got cut off, here¡¯s the full paste.


Re: IPGATEWAY, 44ENCAP and actual AMPRGW on remote wireguard host

 

Hi Kayne

Here¡¯s my very minimal config:

IPGATEWAY
ADAPTER eth0
IPADDR 192.168.1.9
IPNETMASK 255.255.255.0
NODEFAULTROUTE
ENABLES

Before bullseye, the IP 192.168.1.9 would be ping-able even though it didnt show up on the interface in ifconfig for LinBPQTAP, after bullseye it was completely unresponsive until I added the routes on the host OS.

73
Red


On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 05:46 AM, Kayne Kruse - N9SEO wrote:

Hi Red,

I will have to experiment here on that.? It seems valid what you do.? Tho here IM sure if i went your route that you have a minimal ipgateway definition?
I am not certain that here that if i went your path, that the tap interface would actually work at all, even to the local linux box or lan.?? So think I am missing something here on what the issue is.

How does that IPGATEWAY section look on your side?

Kayne



Re: IPGATEWAY, 44ENCAP and actual AMPRGW on remote wireguard host

 

Hi Red,

I will have to experiment here on that.? It seems valid what you do.? Tho here IM sure if i went your route that you have a minimal ipgateway definition?
I am not certain that here that if i went your path, that the tap interface would actually work at all, even to the local linux box or lan.?? So think I am missing something here on what the issue is.

How does that IPGATEWAY section look on your side?

Kayne



Re: IPGATEWAY, 44ENCAP and actual AMPRGW on remote wireguard host

 

HI Kayne

Not sure if this is applicable to you but I had serious problems after changing from buster to bullseye where the TAP interface wouldn¡¯t respond to anything either, in the end the OS needed to have a route manually added after it was brought up so I added a background task with a sleep timer after linbpq launched to put the route back each time.


I don¡¯t run AMPR so mine is applicable to just getting the TAP device to talk to the OS interfaces so that I can pull SNMP stats from the BPQ node,

in my runbpq script that is called from systemd:

(sleep 25; /home/bpq/nodes/pe1rrr/LinBPQTAP-route) &


The LinBPQTAP-route:

!/bin/bash -x
sudo route del -host 192.168.1.9 dev LinBPQTAP metric 10
sudo route add -host 192.168.1.9 dev LinBPQTAP metric 10

the metric option was crucial in putting the route before any other default in the table.

I hope this sheds some light with some clues where it may be going wrong.

73 all the best
Red


On Sat, Jul 16, 2022 at 01:34 PM, Kayne Kruse - N9SEO wrote:

Hi,

I am struggling to find a way to make linbpq work with IPGATEWAY.??? OS is Debian 10, kernel 4.19.0-16-686-pae patched with Marius' YO2LOJ AX25 "else" patch for linux ax25.

My IPIP endpoint is a linux box on the far end of a wireguard link and uses the main linux gw ip 44.76.0.193 as the routable wireguard ip and terminates to the linux host at 44.76.0.205
BPQ runs on top that linux box at 44.76.0.205, but I want to use 44.76.0.195 as the IPIP/amprnet ip on BPQ in IPGATEWAY.?

I cannot figure out the correct BPQ config to make it talk to linux routing table and sort the rest out.? The routes are all in linux on the device bpq runs on but since TAP wont talk to interface wg0 because it is not tappable, not sure what my option is.

Over the wire in a packet dump it should look like

44.76.0.205 -> 44.76.0.193 proto ipip
44.76.0.195 -> ANYTUNNELED_44_IP

vice versa on the return path.? Regardless IPIP packets need to get to 44.76.0.193 via linux kernel routing to work in wireguard.

I do this this way because at the linux amprnet gw its easily controls ingress to only allow amprnet ips to access my amprnet ips from a centralized firewall at the router gw.

I hope that makes sense, but perhaps I am not clear.?? Let me know if you need anything further.


IPGATEWAY
ADAPTER enp1s0
44ENCAP 192.168.200.205 ; or I can use 44.76.0.193 as the encap endpoint or an unused lan IP.? None seemed to do much usefulness.
IPADDR 44.76.0.195
IPNETMASK 255.255.255.255
NODEFAULTROUTE
IPPORTS 1
ROUTE 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.200.205
;ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.76.0.193 T? # dont use these, they override linux routes present from wireguard and tie them to LinBPQTAP interface, not desired - Using kernel routing is desired here, I use wireguard and freerrp's bgp to manage route tables and they write to linux routes.
;ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.76.0.193 T
***

I've tried various route's above but removed them as they werent helpful,

Is there any hope or am I completely out there due to my unique situation?

Thanks for reading this.

73 Kayne - n9seo



?HI Kayne


EMAIL for G8BPQ

 

John

Sent you a couple of emails direct with a couple of problems in Version 6.0.23.4

No worries Guys I think this may be a isolated case related with the AMPR Network.

Mike Melnik-N9PMO
BPQ32 Group Moderator


IPGATEWAY, 44ENCAP and actual AMPRGW on remote wireguard host

 

Hi,

I am struggling to find a way to make linbpq work with IPGATEWAY.??? OS is Debian 10, kernel 4.19.0-16-686-pae patched with Marius' YO2LOJ AX25 "else" patch for linux ax25.

My IPIP endpoint is a linux box on the far end of a wireguard link and uses the main linux gw ip 44.76.0.193 as the routable wireguard ip and terminates to the linux host at 44.76.0.205
BPQ runs on top that linux box at 44.76.0.205, but I want to use 44.76.0.195 as the IPIP/amprnet ip on BPQ in IPGATEWAY.?

I cannot figure out the correct BPQ config to make it talk to linux routing table and sort the rest out.? The routes are all in linux on the device bpq runs on but since TAP wont talk to interface wg0 because it is not tappable, not sure what my option is.

Over the wire in a packet dump it should look like

44.76.0.205 -> 44.76.0.193 proto ipip
44.76.0.195 -> ANYTUNNELED_44_IP

vice versa on the return path.? Regardless IPIP packets need to get to 44.76.0.193 via linux kernel routing to work in wireguard.

I do this this way because at the linux amprnet gw its easily controls ingress to only allow amprnet ips to access my amprnet ips from a centralized firewall at the router gw.

I hope that makes sense, but perhaps I am not clear.?? Let me know if you need anything further.


IPGATEWAY
ADAPTER enp1s0
44ENCAP 192.168.200.205 ; or I can use 44.76.0.193 as the encap endpoint or an unused lan IP.? None seemed to do much usefulness.
IPADDR 44.76.0.195
IPNETMASK 255.255.255.255
NODEFAULTROUTE
IPPORTS 1
ROUTE 0.0.0.0/0 192.168.200.205
;ROUTE 44.0.0.0/9 44.76.0.193 T? # dont use these, they override linux routes present from wireguard and tie them to LinBPQTAP interface, not desired - Using kernel routing is desired here, I use wireguard and freerrp's bgp to manage route tables and they write to linux routes.
;ROUTE 44.128.0.0/10 44.76.0.193 T
***

I've tried various route's above but removed them as they werent helpful,

Is there any hope or am I completely out there due to my unique situation?

Thanks for reading this.

73 Kayne - n9seo



Re: 255 error

Richard Hendricks - KE0GB
 

Thanks, John.

73 - Rick


Re: 255 error

 

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I've seen this occasionally, but so far haven't managed to find where it is coming from. I'll keep looking.

73,
John

On 11/07/2022 20:32, Richard Hendricks - KE0GB wrote:

>From time-to-time, I see some nodes exhibiting what i call the "255 error".? ?I lose
without notice, an AXIP link to some of my partners, and see the link from my node
to my partner's node up, but on their end, I see this:

no ke0gb-7

QINOD:KQ0I-7} Routes to: COSCO:KE0GB-7

192 255 1 KE0GB-7? ? ? ? ?<-------? 255 in the second place

144 5 1 KM8V-7


Notice the "255" figure in the obsolescence place.? I've seen this on several nodes

going back several versions.? I've asked the partner to shut down their BPQ32,
remove the BPQNodes.dat file, and reboot.? This, of course, is a workaround,
but I'm wondering how this develops in the first place.

I recently started seeing W0ARP's BBS using his fallback routing over 2m
and checked his AXIP routing to AC0VC's BBS:

?no ac0vc-7

PHYLNS:W0ARP-7} Routes to: VCBPQ:AC0VC-7

192 255 1 AC0VC-7? ? ?<-----again, that 255 figure the obsolescence

144 5 1 N0HI-7

How is this 255 figure creeping into our nodes?


73 - Rick
KE0GB



Re: AXIP #bpq32

 

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:06 AM, Joey N4QMI wrote:
Hey Red, I only tried a couple for testing purposes only and I removed them. I was able to add N3HYM with no problem but W4GON gives the error.

BPQAXIP - Bad config record MAP W4GON-7 10093 B

Joel (W4GON) and I are corresponding by email as well trying to find the problem.?

Joey
Hi Joey
No worries, yeah some nodes do autoaddmap - I have a backup node that provides that, if you¡¯d like to link up with mine I¡¯ve got all the info posted here:

?password is ¡®matrix¡¯ (without quotes).

Glad to hear you got the UDP port info sorted with John, its easy to miss!

73
Red


Re: AXIP #bpq32

 

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 12:18 PM, Joey N4QMI wrote:
That was the problem John, but is weird is that N5MDT doesn't use UDP before 10094 and it works.. I tried his with UDP in it and it gave an error.. But it works so problem solved! Thanks!
We couldn't get the UDP working. We are connected via a TCP connection.

Mark,
N5MDT


Re: AXIP #bpq32

 

That was the problem John, but is weird is that N5MDT doesn't use UDP before 10094 and it works.. I tried his with UDP in it and it gave an error.. But it works so problem solved! Thanks!


Re: AXIP #bpq32

 

Hey Red, I only tried a couple for testing purposes only and I removed them. I was able to add N3HYM with no problem but W4GON gives the error.

BPQAXIP - Bad config record MAP W4GON-7 10093 B

Joel (W4GON) and I are corresponding by email as well trying to find the problem.?

Joey


Re: AXIP #bpq32

 

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Joey,

You need UDP before 10093

73,
John

On 14/07/2022 17:17, Joey N4QMI wrote:

Hey John, sorry to mention that in the original message. Here is the error messages I get..

BPQAXIP - Bad config record MAP W4GON-7 10093 B
BPQAXIP - Bad config record MAP KB9SOZ-7 10093 B
?
And a couple of others.. There are three that are working just fine including w9gm-7.



Re: AXIP #bpq32

 

Hey John, sorry to mention that in the original message. Here is the error messages I get..

BPQAXIP - Bad config record MAP W4GON-7 10093 B
BPQAXIP - Bad config record MAP KB9SOZ-7 10093 B
?
And a couple of others.. There are three that are working just fine including w9gm-7.


Re: AXIP #bpq32

 

Hey Mark, I had to restart computer. Sorry about that. Problem existed before computer locked went offline and problem is still there.

Joey


Re: Providing RMS via AREDN from LinBPQ

 

If you could answer a few questions it should help me understand exactly what you are trying to do.

Are you using Winlink Express as your client? If not, what client is being used?

Is your Winlink gateway on the same machine as your BBS, or somewhere else on the Mesh?

Do your clients connect directly via the Mesh to your BBS, or are there other BBS's on the Mesh that they connect to, then forward messages to the Winlink gateway?

Do you want all messages between clients to be routed via Winlink?

73,
John

On 14/07/2022 15:36, Heber Soto wrote:
My question was to broad, I do know on how to configure the Winlink client and the AREDN node on how to make the service available.

We were doing test yesterday and messages where being accepted by the BBS and routing them through our KP4DOG BPQ network as a BBS message.

Do we have to change something on the BPQ config to accept traffic via port 8772 or it will accept it natively to relay to the Winlink's CMS?

Or does de BBS respond to the Winlink client and sends the messages as a BBS message?

Or can both operation occurred?

Gracias 73,

Heber
NP4JN

On 7/14/2022 3:33 AM, John G8BPQ wrote:
Provided that somewhere on the ARDEN network there is a node with Internet to access an RMS Server then yes.

73, John

On 14/07/2022 03:15, Heber Soto wrote:
Hello

Can a LinBPQ connected to a AREDN node provide a RMS service via AREDN?





Re: Providing RMS via AREDN from LinBPQ

 

My question was to broad, I do know on how to configure the Winlink client and the AREDN node on how to make the service available.

We were doing test yesterday and messages where being accepted by the BBS and routing them through our KP4DOG BPQ network as a BBS message.

Do we have to change something on the BPQ config to accept traffic via port 8772 or it will accept it natively to relay to the Winlink's CMS?

Or does de BBS respond to the Winlink client and sends the messages as a BBS message?

Or can both operation occurred?

Gracias 73,

Heber
NP4JN

On 7/14/2022 3:33 AM, John G8BPQ wrote:
Provided that somewhere on the ARDEN network there is a node with Internet to access an RMS Server then yes.

73, John

On 14/07/2022 03:15, Heber Soto wrote:
Hello

Can a LinBPQ connected to a AREDN node provide a RMS service via AREDN?



--
Gracias 73,

Heber
NP4JN