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EUCARA25 Save the date.....

 

We are pleased to announce the date of the 2025 EU Conference on Amateur Radio Astronomy (EUCARA25)? - Friday September 5th - Sunday 7th.? This will be held at the Visitor Center on the Harwell Campus.? Further details will be published soon on our the website - eucara.org.?
We are honored that Professor Jocelyn Bell Burnell will be our key note speaker.
When registration is open we will let you know via the forums.??
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Re: Assistance with Graphic Art

 

Pleas feel free to share, the wider the net is cast the better.
Andrew


Re: Assistance with Graphic Art

 

Is it ok to share this message with other astronomy groups or clubs.
Cheers
Keith Butterworth


Assistance with Graphic Art

 

My apologies that this post is a little off topic but the UK Radio Astronomy Association needs your help.
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We are a volunteer organisation which promotes all aspects of radio astronomy encourages amateur scientists to participate in observing the universe.

We are seeking the assistance of a graphic artist to assist in the preparation of artwork for roller banners, posters, presentations and our website. The graphics will illustrate the science of astronomy and physics and be used at exhibitions and talks.

We are a group of engineers who know our limitations and appreciate that this is not our area of expertise or talents! We have a vision of what we need but no ability to realise our goal.

As a charity we do not have a large budgets to commission this work, but we appreciate that expenses need to be covered. An interest in astronomy would be helpful but is not necessary.

If you are interested,? or know somebody who may able to assist please contact me on andrew.thomas@....

Andrew Thomas

UKRAA Trustee


RAZoom Fri. Dec. 6th 19:30 GMT Cosmic ray muon measurement at a global scale

 

Professor???Department of Physics & Astronomy, Georgia State University
The development of a global network for Cosmic ray muon detection is described.?
The focus of the presentation will be on the detector development and the expansion of the detector network worldwide which will be mainly used for monitoring the dynamic changes in the space and terrestrial weather in real-time at global scale.
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The Zoom link for this seminar has been posted.? If you have not received it or want to be added to the distribution list please contact me.
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Re: Wandering Radio Signal - ~370 to 390MHz - what is it?

 

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Hi Andrew,

The signal you are observing is most certainly not of astronomical origin. There is no spectral line from a known astronomical source at the frequency you mentioned. The sun is a broadband emitter and will not show a distinct frequency.

Best regards,

Wolfgang

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I have been expreimenting with Radio Astronomy observing the hydrogen line using conical feedhorns using both gnuradio and sdrangel software. In the SDR angel software there is the star tracker which has 'heat' maps of the Milky way one of which is recorded at 480MHz. So I thought it would be interesting to see what 408MHz looks like locally, obviously its pretty busy. So using a V antenna (two concertina areial at 120 degree angle) going into a Noolec broadband amplifier feeding an Airspy R2 with 10 MHz bandwidth and sample rate I have been looking at 10 Mhz regions < 410 MHz. I have noticed that there is a signal which in the morning moves to lower frequency numbers and then around 2 pm starts to move back up to high frequency numbers. I have observerd, and continue to observe this signal over several days. I was wondering whether it was something to do with the sun, as by around 2 pm the sun is due south where the antenna is roughly pointing (at and angle of 40 - 50 degrees elevation). In the attachment you can see two examples of the peak of interest at 13:30 and 15:00 where the signal has moved frequency. At the end of the attachment is an excel plot of the data over several days, is some of the plot the signal went out of the observing frequnecy range, but overal you can see it is repetetive but perhaps the signal is moving slowly to high frequencies. As I say I though it might be the sun, and it was the doppler effect I was observing. It has been suggested that this might be a satellite and that I should lok for modulation in the signal. That is something I will try to do on Friday when I can get to the observatory.

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Can anyone help identify what it is I am observing here?


Wandering Radio Signal - ~370 to 390MHz - what is it?

 

I have been expreimenting with Radio Astronomy observing the hydrogen line using conical feedhorns using both gnuradio and sdrangel software. In the SDR angel software there is the star tracker which has 'heat' maps of the Milky way one of which is recorded at 480MHz. So I thought it would be interesting to see what 408MHz looks like locally, obviously its pretty busy. So using a V antenna (two concertina areial at 120 degree angle) going into a Noolec broadband amplifier feeding an Airspy R2 with 10 MHz bandwidth and sample rate I have been looking at 10 Mhz regions < 410 MHz. I have noticed that there is a signal which in the morning moves to lower frequency numbers and then around 2 pm starts to move back up to high frequency numbers. I have observerd, and continue to observe this signal over several days. I was wondering whether it was something to do with the sun, as by around 2 pm the sun is due south where the antenna is roughly pointing (at and angle of 40 - 50 degrees elevation). In the attachment you can see two examples of the peak of interest at 13:30 and 15:00 where the signal has moved frequency. At the end of the attachment is an excel plot of the data over several days, is some of the plot the signal went out of the observing frequnecy range, but overal you can see it is repetetive but perhaps the signal is moving slowly to high frequencies. As I say I though it might be the sun, and it was the doppler effect I was observing. It has been suggested that this might be a satellite and that I should lok for modulation in the signal. That is something I will try to do on Friday when I can get to the observatory.
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Can anyone help identify what it is I am observing here?


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

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Inspire works very well detecting lightning and I am in UK so they sent it internationally to me without problem. Only issue is it also picks up mains hum which can be quite loud......but if you can get some distance from power cables then then won't be issue and anyway you can hear the lightning in spite of mains hum.
Andy

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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2024 11:13:10 AM
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Cc: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [baa-rag] Radio Lightning Detector
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Hi?

I have one of the Inspire kits that I ordered from the US ( into the UK ) approx 3 years ago.
It took an afternoon to assemble and it seems to work very well.

Regards?

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On 25 Nov 2024, at 10:34, Gabriel via groups.io <07gabriel.j.m@...> wrote:

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Hello Andrew, I'm interested in the fact you say it works well as this seems to be my best chance yet!! they still have the option on the website to order internationally. where did you see that it says otherwise. may I also ask what sort of range are you getting distance wise from the lightning?

Thanks
Gabriel?

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 at 11:03, Andrew Thornett via <andrew=[email protected]> wrote:
NASA had project called INSPIRE which developed a receiver for picking up lightning. I have one of the receivers. Works well apart from terrible interference from power lines at 50 Hz!


Andy

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian via <brian=[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 9:27:23 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [baa-rag] Radio Lightning Detector
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Hello. Take a look at . I Googled "blitzortung receivers" and found lots of ideas there. When you start building I'm sure people on this group will have some stuff that is helpful at no cost.

Good luck Brian

On 19/11/2024 08:28, 07gabriel.j.m via wrote:
Hello, so I am new to radio and am a student. I have a project to create a radio receiver that can detect lightning strikes. The idea sparked after my tutor mentioned how you could hear radio static on an old am radio when a strike happened. but now I am quite stuck on how to achieve this. at first I though I would just use an old am radio but have found I may get far more effective results using a low frequency receiver. my main constraint is budget as mentioned I am a student so can be quite difficult to work around that! I was just wondering if anyone may have some helpful advice on this topic, as seems like the right place to put it.


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

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Hi?

I have one of the Inspire kits that I ordered from the US ( into the UK ) approx 3 years ago.
It took an afternoon to assemble and it seems to work very well.

Regards?

5

On 25 Nov 2024, at 10:34, Gabriel via groups.io <07gabriel.j.m@...> wrote:

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Hello Andrew, I'm interested in the fact you say it works well as this seems to be my best chance yet!! they still have the option on the website to order internationally. where did you see that it says otherwise. may I also ask what sort of range are you getting distance wise from the lightning?

Thanks
Gabriel?

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 at 11:03, Andrew Thornett via <andrew=[email protected]> wrote:
NASA had project called INSPIRE which developed a receiver for picking up lightning. I have one of the receivers. Works well apart from terrible interference from power lines at 50 Hz!


Andy

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian via <brian=[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 9:27:23 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [baa-rag] Radio Lightning Detector
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Hello. Take a look at . I Googled "blitzortung receivers" and found lots of ideas there. When you start building I'm sure people on this group will have some stuff that is helpful at no cost.

Good luck Brian

On 19/11/2024 08:28, 07gabriel.j.m via wrote:
Hello, so I am new to radio and am a student. I have a project to create a radio receiver that can detect lightning strikes. The idea sparked after my tutor mentioned how you could hear radio static on an old am radio when a strike happened. but now I am quite stuck on how to achieve this. at first I though I would just use an old am radio but have found I may get far more effective results using a low frequency receiver. my main constraint is budget as mentioned I am a student so can be quite difficult to work around that! I was just wondering if anyone may have some helpful advice on this topic, as seems like the right place to put it.


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

Hello Andrew, I'm interested in the fact you say it works well as this seems to be my best chance yet!! they still have the option on the website to order internationally. where did you see that it says otherwise. may I also ask what sort of range are you getting distance wise from the lightning?

Thanks
Gabriel?

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 at 11:03, Andrew Thornett via <andrew=[email protected]> wrote:
NASA had project called INSPIRE which developed a receiver for picking up lightning. I have one of the receivers. Works well apart from terrible interference from power lines at 50 Hz!


Andy

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian via <brian=[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 9:27:23 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [baa-rag] Radio Lightning Detector
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Hello. Take a look at . I Googled "blitzortung receivers" and found lots of ideas there. When you start building I'm sure people on this group will have some stuff that is helpful at no cost.

Good luck Brian

On 19/11/2024 08:28, 07gabriel.j.m via wrote:
Hello, so I am new to radio and am a student. I have a project to create a radio receiver that can detect lightning strikes. The idea sparked after my tutor mentioned how you could hear radio static on an old am radio when a strike happened. but now I am quite stuck on how to achieve this. at first I though I would just use an old am radio but have found I may get far more effective results using a low frequency receiver. my main constraint is budget as mentioned I am a student so can be quite difficult to work around that! I was just wondering if anyone may have some helpful advice on this topic, as seems like the right place to put it.


Meteor Beacon Server

 

While the beacon is operating OK after the week end storm the server providing the live stream is OFF.? A site visit is due at the end of the week so we hope to fix it then.

Brian


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

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My recording of lightning was just chance as I was really looking for SIDs,

which of course the lightning obscured. I can't remember where the lightning was,

but as I'm in the Midlands I think anywhere in southernEngland usually shows up.

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Cheers,

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Mark


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

Hello! Thank you this is quite interesting! I assume you specifically did this when there was a storm in your area, just curious what sort of distance were you from it??

And yes I’ve seen a a lot of people use their PC’s!! ideally I will need it to be a standalone device with a simple output like an LED for every Spike.?

But this gave me a very good idea of what frequencies I will look into?

Thanks!?
Gabriel?

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 at 4:50?PM, Mark Edwards via <mark=[email protected]> wrote:

Hi,

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The attached plots shows plenty of noise spikes at VLF caused by lightning.

So the easiest way to record them is to do as I do and just use a PC with a multi-turn

loop plugged into its soundcard. With back-to-back diodes across it to stop any lightning damage!

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Then just run spectrum lab and monitor a quiet frequency without any VLF transmitters on it.

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Cheers,

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Mark


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

I was interested and checked out the website. Inspire will not ship kits or the detector outside the USA.?
Andrew?


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

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Hi,

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The attached plots shows plenty of noise spikes at VLF caused by lightning.

So the easiest way to record them is to do as I do and just use a PC with a multi-turn

loop plugged into its soundcard. With back-to-back diodes across it to stop any lightning damage!

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Then just run spectrum lab and monitor a quiet frequency without any VLF transmitters on it.

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Cheers,

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Mark


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

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So far only ever used it alone

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Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 11:54:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [baa-rag] Radio Lightning Detector
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Hi Andy
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Interesting do you use this standalone or do you contribute to
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Kind Regards
John B


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

Hi Andy
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Interesting do you use this standalone or do you contribute to
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Kind Regards
John B


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

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NASA had project called INSPIRE which developed a receiver for picking up lightning. I have one of the receivers. Works well apart from terrible interference from power lines at 50 Hz!


Andy

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brian via groups.io <brian@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2024 9:27:23 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [baa-rag] Radio Lightning Detector
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Hello. Take a look at . I Googled "blitzortung receivers" and found lots of ideas there. When you start building I'm sure people on this group will have some stuff that is helpful at no cost.

Good luck Brian

On 19/11/2024 08:28, 07gabriel.j.m via groups.io wrote:
Hello, so I am new to radio and am a student. I have a project to create a radio receiver that can detect lightning strikes. The idea sparked after my tutor mentioned how you could hear radio static on an old am radio when a strike happened. but now I am quite stuck on how to achieve this. at first I though I would just use an old am radio but have found I may get far more effective results using a low frequency receiver. my main constraint is budget as mentioned I am a student so can be quite difficult to work around that! I was just wondering if anyone may have some helpful advice on this topic, as seems like the right place to put it.


Re: Radio Lightning Detector

 

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Hello. Take a look at . I Googled "blitzortung receivers" and found lots of ideas there. When you start building I'm sure people on this group will have some stuff that is helpful at no cost.

Good luck Brian

On 19/11/2024 08:28, 07gabriel.j.m via groups.io wrote:

Hello, so I am new to radio and am a student. I have a project to create a radio receiver that can detect lightning strikes. The idea sparked after my tutor mentioned how you could hear radio static on an old am radio when a strike happened. but now I am quite stuck on how to achieve this. at first I though I would just use an old am radio but have found I may get far more effective results using a low frequency receiver. my main constraint is budget as mentioned I am a student so can be quite difficult to work around that! I was just wondering if anyone may have some helpful advice on this topic, as seems like the right place to put it.


Radio Lightning Detector

 

Hello, so I am new to radio and am a student. I have a project to create a radio receiver that can detect lightning strikes. The idea sparked after my tutor mentioned how you could hear radio static on an old am radio when a strike happened. but now I am quite stuck on how to achieve this. at first I though I would just use an old am radio but have found I may get far more effective results using a low frequency receiver. my main constraint is budget as mentioned I am a student so can be quite difficult to work around that! I was just wondering if anyone may have some helpful advice on this topic, as seems like the right place to put it.