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Hey guys,
I've been googling pictures for a dial indicator holder for the carriage with possibly a carriage stop as well.
I have seen to nice ideas and have a couple of my own but am wondering what you guys are using.
Thanks,
Jody
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Jody, I have both the original micrometer stop and the multi position stop offered on the turret setups, but I find myself using the micrometer stop the most.
Here is a real nice one I came across on Pinterest and plan on making someday. You could also use a micrometer head in it as a stop.
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If you zoom up on this image, you can see the micrometer stop parked at the far right.
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mrpete222 has videos of both. I've been saving 2" dial indicator for this purpose. I started a project to use it on the tailstock, but I need a magnet back.
Dan Coleman
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Jody:
Here is a photo of a carriage stop on my Atlas QC-42.? Built from plans available on Tom Technique's website.
I also show that same stop adapted to fit my Smithy 3-in-1 to include an indicator holder.
Bill
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 5:00:38 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
Hey guys,
I've been googling pictures for a dial indicator holder for the carriage with possibly a carriage stop as well.
I have seen to nice ideas and have a couple of my own but am wondering what you guys are using.
Thanks,
Jody
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Photos of OEM Atlas micrometer carriage stop, micrometer carriage stop I bought from an eBay seller years back, and 3D printed plastic indicator holder that I received for prototype trial about a year ago from a fellow that posts to this group. Pretty simple to make these if you need a project or find for sale on eBay. Have fun making chips.
Steve Haskell
Troy, MI
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I would not recommend a indicator in the front of the carriage do to all the swarf a carriage stop is ok. The holding bracket going across the bed is totally a no the amount of travel of the carriage is reduced
GP
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On Wed, 1/16/19, Bill Buckalew via Groups.Io <bill70j@...> wrote: Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Carriage Stop and Indicator To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 11:31 AM Jody: Here is a photo of a carriage stop on my Atlas QC-42.? Built from plans available on Tom Technique's website. I also show that same stop adapted to fit my Smithy 3-in-1 to include an indicator holder. Bill On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 5:00:38 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote: Hey guys, I've been googling pictures for a dial indicator holder for the carriage with possibly a carriage stop as well. I have seen to nice ideas and have a couple of my own but am wondering what you guys are using. Thanks, Jody
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Ok, thanks Dan, I'll look those up.? I picked up a 2" travel indicator and need something to put it on besides my Mighty Mag.
My biggest hurdle will be the lack of a mill.? I could use aluminum and any little pockets I might need to mill I might be able to get away with it on my drill press and x-y vice.
-Jody
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Bill,
Good job on the stops and indicator holder.? I saw those at Tall Grass.? Do you have an indexer or did you rig something on the lathe?
I like the idea of having a mounting stud for your dial.? I might rob that idea.? Maybe I'll hang the dial off the side so that it hits a spot on the carriage that is further out.
Thanks for the pics.
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The 2nd pic looks easy enough.? Without a mill that would be something I could handle, minus the indexing and stamping.? The idea on the printed is a pattern I've thought about.? I was thinking of having just a plain threaded stop between the ways and dial.? I would need to see what surfaces each would hit on.
Thank you for the pics, Steve.
-Jody
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Guenther,
You make a good point about the swarf.? I was using mine on a mighty mag and had it setup up behind the carriage.? It worked ok, with exception of the magnet part of it.? I'm thinking of doing something that can hold the indicator and have a stop between the indicator and the ways.? Doing this I can take my measurements with the dial and then set my stop and then take the dial out of the holder to keep it away from the swarf.
Thanks for mentioning that, I didn't think about that aspect of it yet.?
Maybe I just go all DRO and forget this...Haha!
Thanks for the input, swarf is now going to be taken into account.
-Jody
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Jody:
Agree.? I think you are right on point.? No need for an indicator if you have DRO.? But the stop comes in handy at times if you're in a hurry or are just lazy, like me.??
Adding XY DRO's (dumb, but effective and cheap I-Gaging DRO's) to the Atlas was one of the best upgrades I made, second only to the QCTP.
Bill
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 11:50:35 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
Guenther,
You make a good point about the swarf.? I was using mine on a mighty mag and had it setup up behind the carriage.? It worked ok, with exception of the magnet part of it.? I'm thinking of doing something that can hold the indicator and have a stop between the indicator and the ways.? Doing this I can take my measurements with the dial and then set my stop and then take the dial out of the holder to keep it away from the swarf.
Thanks for mentioning that, I didn't think about that aspect of it yet.?
Maybe I just go all DRO and forget this...Haha!
Thanks for the input, swarf is now going to be taken into account.
-Jody
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Jody, you should check out Rick Sparbers low cost DRO's Here is one of them:
Ken H in AZ
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Admittedly this is very crude but it stops the carriage where I need it to. I show it only to suggest that you can get work done without going overboard/over budget/over complicated. The adjustment bolt is 1/4 20 so each full turn is .05" so the adjustment is (again) crude but functional. I needed one in a hurry and built this in less than a 1/2 hour. It has been sufficient for my home shop purposes for several years now. It is just a scrap cut to a "C" shape on the power saw with 2 holes drilled and tapped, a toilet bolt, thumb screw and nut from my junk/bolt drawer. If Necessity is the mother of invention, a good junk drawer/scrap pile is the father! Cost $0.00, stopping the carriage from hitting the chuck, priceless ; )
Did I mention it is crude?
Ken H in AZ
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Jody:
I used a horizontal rotary table on the mill with a ground HSS tool in the spindle to cut the dial graduation lines.??
The bull gear on my Atlas is one that has the indexing holes, but it was easier done on the mill.
I rigged up a jig on the mill table to stamp the numbers.
HTH,? Bill
Bill,
Good job on the stops and indicator holder.? I saw those at Tall Grass.? Do you have an indexer or did you rig something on the lathe?
I like the idea of having a mounting stud for your dial.? I might rob that idea.? Maybe I'll hang the dial off the side so that it hits a spot on the carriage that is further out.
Thanks for the pics.
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 11:39:17 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
Bill,
Good job on the stops and indicator holder.? I saw those at Tall Grass.? Do you have an indexer or did you rig something on the lathe?
I like the idea of having a mounting stud for your dial.? I might rob that idea.? Maybe I'll hang the dial off the side so that it hits a spot on the carriage that is further out.
Thanks for the pics.
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Looks perfect Ken - I will probably steal a variant of the design.
God bless you all and best regards.
Roger F. Karl
Manchester, Maine
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From: Ken Harrington <dreamcrafters@...>
To: atlas-craftsman < [email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Jan 17, 2019 2:48 am
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Carriage Stop and Indicator
Admittedly this is very crude but it stops the carriage where I need it to. I show it only to suggest that you can get work done without going overboard/over budget/over complicated. The adjustment bolt is 1/4 20 so each full turn is .05" so the adjustment is (again) crude but functional. I needed one in a hurry and built this in less than a 1/2 hour. It has been sufficient for my home shop purposes for several years now. It is just a scrap cut to a "C" shape on the power saw with 2 holes drilled and tapped, a toilet bolt, thumb screw and nut from my junk/bolt drawer. If Necessity is the mother of invention, a good junk drawer/scrap pile is the father! Cost $0.00, stopping the carriage from hitting the chuck, priceless ; )
Did I mention it is crude?
Ken H in AZ
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Rick’s website is a great resource. Thanks for this!
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Jody, you should check out Rick Sparbers low cost DRO's Here is one of them:
Ken H in AZ
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Looks OK to me.? ^? ? Robert Downs ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ken Harrington
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 01:48
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Carriage Stop and Indicator? Admittedly this is very crude but it stops the carriage where I need it to. I show it only to suggest that you can get work done without going overboard/over budget/over complicated. The adjustment bolt is 1/4 20 so each full turn is .05" so the adjustment is (again) crude but functional. I needed one in a hurry and built this in less than a 1/2 hour. It has been sufficient for my home shop purposes for several years now. It is just a scrap cut to a "C" shape on the power saw with 2 holes drilled and tapped, a toilet bolt, thumb screw and nut from my junk/bolt drawer. If Necessity is the mother of invention, a good junk drawer/scrap pile is the father! Cost $0.00, stopping the carriage from hitting the chuck, priceless ; )
Did I mention it is crude?
Ken H in AZ
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Nicely done. Don't have either of these things unfortunately.? One day....
I seem to remember the indexing marks on my bull gear were not 100 but maybe 60 or something.? I'll go back and count.? -Jody
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-------- Original message -------- From: "Bill Buckalew via Groups.Io" <bill70j@...> Date: 1/17/19 9:54 AM (GMT-06:00) To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Carriage Stop and Indicator
Jody:
I used a horizontal rotary table on the mill with a ground HSS tool in the spindle to cut the dial graduation lines.??
The bull gear on my Atlas is one that has the indexing holes, but it was easier done on the mill.
I rigged up a jig on the mill table to stamp the numbers.
HTH,? Bill
Bill,
Good job on the stops and indicator holder.? I saw those at Tall Grass.? Do you have an indexer or did you rig something on the lathe?
I like the idea of having a mounting stud for your dial.? I might rob that idea.? Maybe I'll hang the dial off the side so that it hits a spot on the carriage that is further out.
Thanks for the pics.
On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 11:39:17 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote:
Bill,
Good job on the stops and indicator holder.? I saw those at Tall Grass.? Do you have an indexer or did you rig something on the lathe?
I like the idea of having a mounting stud for your dial.? I might rob that idea.? Maybe I'll hang the dial off the side so that it hits a spot on the carriage that is further out.
Thanks for the pics.
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Yes, there are 60 indexing holes in the bull gear. ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 12:42
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Carriage Stop and Indicator? Nicely done. Don't have either of these things unfortunately.? One day.... I seem to remember the indexing marks on my bull gear were not 100 but maybe 60 or something.? I'll go back and count.?
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From: "Bill Buckalew via Groups.Io" <bill70j@...>
Date: 1/17/19 9:54 AM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Carriage Stop and Indicator
I used a horizontal rotary table on the mill with a ground HSS tool in the spindle to cut the dial graduation lines.?? The bull gear on my Atlas is one that has the indexing holes, but it was easier done on the mill. I rigged up a jig on the mill table to stamp the numbers. Bill,
Good job on the stops and indicator holder.? I saw those at Tall Grass.? Do you have an indexer or did you rig something on the lathe?
I like the idea of having a mounting stud for your dial.? I might rob that idea.? Maybe I'll hang the dial off the side so that it hits a spot on the carriage that is further out.
Thanks for the pics. On Wednesday, January 16, 2019, 11:39:17 AM PST, Jody <jp4lsu@...> wrote: Bill,
Good job on the stops and indicator holder.? I saw those at Tall Grass.? Do you have an indexer or did you rig something on the lathe?
I like the idea of having a mounting stud for your dial.? I might rob that idea.? Maybe I'll hang the dial off the side so that it hits a spot on the carriage that is further out.
Thanks for the pics.
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Bill Buckalew
Steven H
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Roger F. R. Karl
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