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I've noticed that messages from the List are accompanied by large amounts
of header material. Is this something I'm doing or is it just the list
program?

Regards,
Harry Wade
Nashville Tn

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I may be dumb, and probably am, but what in the thunder is this "code" number
used repletely by you and others, Marty, "#34"?
John

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Harry, I haven't seen any such "header" material...
Including this one from you. Did "your copy" of this message that
came back to you from the list server have it as well? Perhaps you
have your mailer set to "see" this information?

Marty

I've noticed that messages from the List are accompanied by large amounts
of header material. Is this something I'm doing or is it just the list
program?

Regards,
Harry Wade
Nashville Tn

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No, I don't think your dumb, hallucinogenic perhaps? :-)
Seriously, I'm not getting these odd headers or numbers...not to say
that you aren't. My guess is that some e-mail software either strips
or hides this non-useful information, while others "show" it. Might be
wrong though....

Marty

I may be dumb, and probably am, but what in the thunder is this "code"
number used repletely by you and others, Marty, "#34"? John

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I think the header stuff actually comes with all messages. A broser
preference option determines whether you see it or not. (I think!)
Skip
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On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:28:59 -0700, Marty Escarcega wrote:

Harry, I haven't seen any such "header" material...
Including this one from you. Did "your copy" of this message that
came back to you from the list server have it as well? Perhaps you
have your mailer set to "see" this information?

Well, whether you have your client set to "see" the headers or not, it
is there. I think that is what Harry was talking about.

In Marty's message, the headers look like:

|Received: from mh.findmail.com (mh.findmail.com [209.185.96.158])
| by loganact.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01407
| for <ssl@...>; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:28:04 -0600 (CST)
|Received: from [127.0.0.1] by mh.findmail.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 1999 02:26:16 -0000
|Mailing-List: contact atlas_craftsman-owner@...
|Precedence: list
|X-URL:
|X-Mailing-List: atlas_craftsman@...
|Reply-To: atlas_craftsman@...
|Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-atlas_craftsman@...
|Received: (qmail 28646 invoked by uid 7770); 23 Jan 1999 02:26:13 -0000
|Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (206.165.6.132)
| by vault.findmail.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 1999 02:26:13 -0000
|Received: (from daemon@localhost)
| by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22651;
| Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:26:09 -0700 (MST)
|Message-Id: <199901230226.TAA22651@...>
|Received: from ip-26-236.phx.primenet.com(206.165.26.236), claiming to be "family-pc"
| via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd022624; Fri Jan 22 19:26:02 1999
|From: "Marty Escarcega" <opencon@...>
|To: Harry Wade <hww@...>, atlas_craftsman@...
|Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:28:59 -0700
|MIME-Version: 1.0
|Priority: normal
|In-reply-to: <3.0.3.16.19990122142038.0dd7d77e@...>
|X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b)
|Subject: [atlas_craftsman] Re: Atlas/Craftsman Dates
|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|X-UIDL: 2930a0fbafc2c9ad285790567fdaeb01

I believe about half of that is added, as well as the message line at
the end of each message, by the egroup software. The other half of
the header information is standard to internet messaging.

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These headers may be of use in tracking spam?

Jack Reid

On Sat, 23 Jan 1999, Scott S. Logan wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:28:59 -0700, Marty Escarcega wrote:

Harry, I haven't seen any such "header" material...
Including this one from you. Did "your copy" of this message that
came back to you from the list server have it as well? Perhaps you
have your mailer set to "see" this information?

Well, whether you have your client set to "see" the headers or not, it
is there. I think that is what Harry was talking about.

In Marty's message, the headers look like:

|Received: from mh.findmail.com (mh.findmail.com [209.185.96.158])
| by loganact.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA01407
| for <ssl@...>; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 20:28:04 -0600 (CST)
|Received: from [127.0.0.1] by mh.findmail.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 1999 02:26:16 -0000
|Mailing-List: contact atlas_craftsman-owner@...
|Precedence: list
|X-URL:
|X-Mailing-List: atlas_craftsman@...
|Reply-To: atlas_craftsman@...
|Delivered-To: listsaver-egroups-atlas_craftsman@...
|Received: (qmail 28646 invoked by uid 7770); 23 Jan 1999 02:26:13 -0000
|Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (206.165.6.132)
| by vault.findmail.com with SMTP; 23 Jan 1999 02:26:13 -0000
|Received: (from daemon@localhost)
| by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA22651;
| Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:26:09 -0700 (MST)
|Message-Id: <199901230226.TAA22651@...>
|Received: from ip-26-236.phx.primenet.com(206.165.26.236), claiming to be "family-pc"
| via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd022624; Fri Jan 22 19:26:02 1999
|From: "Marty Escarcega" <opencon@...>
|To: Harry Wade <hww@...>, atlas_craftsman@...
|Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:28:59 -0700
|MIME-Version: 1.0
|Priority: normal
|In-reply-to: <3.0.3.16.19990122142038.0dd7d77e@...>
|X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01b)
|Subject: [atlas_craftsman] Re: Atlas/Craftsman Dates
|Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
|Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
|X-UIDL: 2930a0fbafc2c9ad285790567fdaeb01

I believe about half of that is added, as well as the message line at
the end of each message, by the egroup software. The other half of
the header information is standard to internet messaging.

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At 07:28 PM 1/22/99 -0700, you wrote:

Harry, I haven't seen any such "header" material...
Including this one from you. Did "your copy" of this message that
came back to you from the list server have it as well? Perhaps you
have your mailer set to "see" this information?

My Eudora program has an option "See all Headers Even the Ugly Ones"
when this is set I also get all the "extra" garbage. With this set not to
get them, I get just the standard From, To, Date etc.

Ronald Thibault
North Augusta, SC USA



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