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Re: Cross feed lever modification

 

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??? ??? You certainly do better than the factory bent sheet metal bracket! Works fine but looks--eech!

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On 2/23/19 11:03 AM, Dave Matticks wrote:

Don't know when they started, seen a couple videos but....

I'm with you, like it to look like it belongs there.?

Not at the top of the list of projects but if I come up with something cool I'll share it.

Dave

On February 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Kurt Sierens <ksierens@...> wrote:

I also think about this, but would want it to look like it came on the machine.

Kurt S.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>
Date: 2/23/19 12:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Cross feed lever modification

Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


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Re: Cross feed lever modification

 

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Dave,

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The following assumes that you were actually referring to a lever operated cross feed for the 3991.

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If you were actually referring to the lever actuated power crossfeed on the final version 12”, it can be retrofitted to the 3991.? You will need to drill and tap two holes in the apron plus acquire the necessary parts.? You might be able to buy them from Clausing.? And just ignore the rest of this.

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Otherwise,

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Up until about 1965, Atlas (or Clausing) sold what they called a Cross Slide Turret that replaced the standard cross slide and compound.? From the mid 1930’s until 1956, they sold a 10” and a 12” version (or they sold the 10” and Sears sold the 12”).? From 1957 until 1966 they sold a revised version for the 12” and although probably still available, the 10” wasn’t in the catalogs.? Anyway, as an option, they sold the No. 710 Lever Operator, which would fit your 3991.

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To see what it looks like, log into the A-C group on groups.io and go to Files.? Click on 28 Manuals, Atlas or Atlas-Craftsman Lathe Accessories.? Find and download Atlas Cross Slide Turret No. 6637 For Late12" .pdf?.? The lever and all of the parts associated with it are shown in there.? From the disassembly instructions prior to the lever assembly, I believe that one thing is missing.? I think that you will need to remove the spur gear and woodruff key that you will find on the cross-feed screw after you remove the bearing and then remove the screw.

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The link that ties the bottom of the lever to the apron attaches to an existing screw (or a slightly longer version of it) on the front of the apron.

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Probably the reason that the lever isn’t in the catalogs after 1965 is that the link would be in the way of the power cross feed lever that isn’t present on a 3991.

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Matticks
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 11:33
To: [email protected]
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Cross feed lever modification

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Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


Re: Cross feed lever modification

 

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Atlas offered them. I have mounted one on the production lathe I have assembled. I have it all documented on u-tube

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From: Dave Matticks
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 10:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Cross feed lever modification

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Don't know when they started, seen a couple videos but....

I'm with you, like it to look like it belongs there.?

Not at the top of the list of projects but if I come up with something cool I'll share it.

Dave

On February 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Kurt Sierens <ksierens@...> wrote:

I also think about this, but would want it to look like it came on the machine.

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Kurt S.

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Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone

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-------- Original message --------

From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>

Date: 2/23/19 12:32 PM (GMT-05:00)

Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Cross feed lever modification

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Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


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Re: Cross feed lever modification

 

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Charles, can you post some pictures?

Kurt S.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Charles <xlch58@...>
Date: 2/23/19 5:12 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Cross feed lever modification

I have done this to my 10 Atlas. ?I have a bed turret for it and a lever crossslide with turret toolpost.

Charles


On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


Re: Cross feed lever modification

 

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I have done this to my 10 Atlas. ?I have a bed turret for it and a lever crossslide with turret toolpost.

Charles


On Feb 23, 2019, at 11:32 AM, Dave Matticks <dpm100@...> wrote:

Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


Re: Cross feed lever modification

 

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Don't know when they started, seen a couple videos but....

I'm with you, like it to look like it belongs there.?

Not at the top of the list of projects but if I come up with something cool I'll share it.

Dave

On February 23, 2019 at 11:38 AM Kurt Sierens <ksierens@...> wrote:

I also think about this, but would want it to look like it came on the machine.

Kurt S.



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>
Date: 2/23/19 12:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Cross feed lever modification

Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


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Re: Cross feed lever modification

 

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I also think about this, but would want it to look like it came on the machine.

Kurt S.



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone


-------- Original message --------
From: Dave Matticks <dpm100@...>
Date: 2/23/19 12:32 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: [atlas-craftsman IO] Cross feed lever modification

Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


Cross feed lever modification

 

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Hi Guys,

Has anyone added/retrofitted a lever actuated cross feed to something similar to a 12X36 Atlas 3991?

I have thoughts, all easy but open to ideas. On small stuff I just feed by hand at home or at work but don't like the "yank the knob" engagement.

Thanks, Dave


mrpete222 just uploaded a video

 

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MrPete222 (YouTube) is having a sale on
all his great videos if anyone?
is interested. See below.

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Re: Faceplate & Dogs

 

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Duh!? I should have remembered that type, especially as I have one.? Those are specifically for square stock.

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The one that Andrei showed may have originally been for square also but it appears that someone has been at it with a disk grinder.

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:58
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs

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Sorry Robert, I should sent a link out.? And maybe this is for stock with flats.

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lathe-Clamp-Dog-1-1-2-Atlas-Craftsman-Logan-South-Bend/143140053369?hash=item2153cfe179:g:SsYAAOSw9nJca3Xj

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-------- Original message --------
From: "Robert Downs via Groups.Io" <wa5cab@...>
Date: 2/22/19 12:19 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs


Given that the standard set of dogs is “adjustable” (each one in the set covers a diameter range), I’m not certain whether you might be referring to those or something else entirely.? Can you post a photo of what you are referring to?

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 08:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs

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Has anybody used the adjustable dogs?
Are there issues with those?

They seem like an economical way to go if? you aren't turning between centers all the time or if you are doing a wide variety of sizes a lot.? If doing it occassional and when you do, it is always a different size then I could see how it could be useful.
Just curious.?
Thanks,
Jody


Re: Faceplate & Dogs

 

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Here is what he is talking about




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Robert Downs via Groups.Io <wa5cab@...>
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 1:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs
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Given that the standard set of dogs is “adjustable” (each one in the set covers a diameter range), I’m not certain whether you might be referring to those or something else entirely.? Can you post a photo of what you are referring to?

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 08:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs

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Has anybody used the adjustable dogs?
Are there issues with those?

They seem like an economical way to go if? you aren't turning between centers all the time or if you are doing a wide variety of sizes a lot.? If doing it occassional and when you do, it is always a different size then I could see how it could be useful.
Just curious.?
Thanks,
Jody


Re: Faceplate & Dogs

 

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Sorry Robert, I should sent a link out.? And maybe this is for stock with flats.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lathe-Clamp-Dog-1-1-2-Atlas-Craftsman-Logan-South-Bend/143140053369?hash=item2153cfe179:g:SsYAAOSw9nJca3Xj



-------- Original message --------
From: "Robert Downs via Groups.Io" <wa5cab@...>
Date: 2/22/19 12:19 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs

Given that the standard set of dogs is “adjustable” (each one in the set covers a diameter range), I’m not certain whether you might be referring to those or something else entirely.? Can you post a photo of what you are referring to?

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 08:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs

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Has anybody used the adjustable dogs?
Are there issues with those?

They seem like an economical way to go if? you aren't turning between centers all the time or if you are doing a wide variety of sizes a lot.? If doing it occassional and when you do, it is always a different size then I could see how it could be useful.
Just curious.?
Thanks,
Jody


Re: Faceplate & Dogs

 

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Given that the standard set of dogs is “adjustable” (each one in the set covers a diameter range), I’m not certain whether you might be referring to those or something else entirely.? Can you post a photo of what you are referring to?

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Robert Downs

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 08:46
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs

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Has anybody used the adjustable dogs?
Are there issues with those?

They seem like an economical way to go if? you aren't turning between centers all the time or if you are doing a wide variety of sizes a lot.? If doing it occassional and when you do, it is always a different size then I could see how it could be useful.
Just curious.?
Thanks,
Jody


Re: Faceplate & Dogs

 

Has anybody used the adjustable dogs?
Are there issues with those?

They seem like an economical way to go if? you aren't turning between centers all the time or if you are doing a wide variety of sizes a lot.? If doing it occassional and when you do, it is always a different size then I could see how it could be useful.
Just curious.?
Thanks,
Jody


Re: New Member

 

I am all for keeping Clausing interested in supporting we owners of the old
Atlas machines. But I prefer to do it by buying parts from them. Most of
the manuals on the Atlas and Craftsman machines are available in our Files
area. And in many if not most cases, the quality is better because many of
them were cleaned up and some corrections made in some of them before they
were converted to PDF’s and uploaded.



While I am on the subject of manuals, there is one exception. Except for
the threading section from a 2nd Edition MOLO that covers the 10 through 10D
and the early 12”, there are no scans of complete MOLO’s in Files. The
reason for that is that the 33rd Edition of the MOLO (the final revision) is
still available new from Clausing. So to avoid any chance of being accused
of copyright infringement, we decided not to allow copies of the MOLO’s in
Files. If you have a late 12” with the slip clutch on the lead screw, the
MOLO that was written for your machine is still available from Clausing. If
you ignore the instructions for setting the slip clutch, it will also apply
to the first version of the late 12”. Or on any given day, you can often
find a good used correct edition/version on eBay. If you have a 3/8” bed
Craftsman 12” or a 10”, and especially if your machine has babbit spindle
bearings, you can usually find an appropriate edition on eBay. But as most
eBay sellers don’t know anything about what they are selling, you will
probably have to ask some questions first in order to find the correct
version. In any case, download from Files and read the MOLO history and
then the short document on choosing the right version.



Robert Downs



From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of tony wilson
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 21:23
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] New Member



Clausing Atlas will sell you all the manuals you need for a reasonable price
and some are a free download. Just Google clayusing atlas manuals and you
will be there!


Re: New Member

 

Clausing Atlas will sell you all the manuals you need for a reasonable price and some are a free download. Just Google clayusing atlas manuals and you will be there!


Re: Atlas Craftsman 3950 back gear question #10d-260

 

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At home I kind of prefer 1/4" , less to grind!
3/8" is the center height with my Enco turret but I have shims.
Dave?



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From: mike allen <animal@...>
Date: 2/19/19 17:21 (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Atlas Craftsman 3950 back gear question #10d-260

the larger tool blank ya can use the less flex ya will have

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On 2/19/2019 11:34 AM, Dan in Cali wrote:
It came with a decent amount of options and a lot of 1/4" tooling
blanks. Some looked like they had been ground to test certain shapes.
I will look through them again and see if there are any I can use
immediately.
I will eventually be grinding my own as I have read that the HSS
tooling works better on this size lathe, as you have stated.
As a complete novice I am saving the tool grinding for stage two of my
journey into the world of lathes, hence my choice of the carbide tools.
The QC will take 3/8" tooling but the seller recommended 1/4" carbide
tooling for light work -- which is what I will be doing to begin with.

As to the email...I get the posts in bulk and don't have the option of
hovering over the sender. If you can email me at the above email,
assuming you can see it, I would appreciate it.

Thanks again,
Dan


New Member

 

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Robert,

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I am a new member to the Atlas Craftsman list.?? I don’t know how the list works yet, but I assume you are the “owner/moderator” and this email is actually getting to you.? A week ago or so, I contributed $ to the list through PayPal.? PayPal indicates it was sent to

Atlas-Craftsman

/g/atlas-craftsman

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Just checking to make sure someone there got it.? If not, I want to know that too.? Also, I may be talking to the wrong person?

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Maybe I can take this opportunity to ask my first question.? I recently bought an Atlas lathe. ?It has a 10” swing with “horizontal” countershaft.? Bed is TH 48, sn 057092.? I need an owner/operator manual for this lathe.? Can you point me in the right direction for getting the proper manual?

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Thanks,

Brad Kuhn

Aiken, SC

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Robert Downs via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 2:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: List Etiquette (Was RE: HSS Indexable Inserts (Was RE: [atlas-craftsman IO] Atlas Craftsman 3950 back gear question

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I realize that it saves time to just hit the Reply button instead of typing in an address and I know that I sometimes forget to do it myself until about half a second after I hit SEND.? But the polite thing to do when you change the subject as drastically as this one has changed is to edit the Subject line appropriately.? ?If the new subject is somewhat related to the old one, do as I did above by inserting “(Was “ or “(was” without the double quotes in front of the old subject.? I realize that the subject of Subjects has nothing to do with either HSS Inserts or 3950’s but left them for the purpose of this post as examples of how to politely change subjects.

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On this list, there are two reasons for doing this.? (1) Don’t do it and you are guilty of thread hijacking.? (2) For the relatively few people who read the mail online instead of downloading it to read, finding something later is difficult as the latter part of the thread will have nothing to do with the thread subject.

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Re: Faceplate & Dogs

 

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Hi Jody . . . wasn’t trying to correct anything and your description was spot on in terms of what you were wanting to do . . .?

A faceplate can be used as a drive plate either with a straight dog which engages a pin which has been bolted into one of the faceplate slots , or by using an angled dog which fits into one of the slots . . .

If using a straight dog and a pin make sure to wire the dog to the pin . . .

Best regards,

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Carvel

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jody
Sent: 20 February 2019 01:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [atlas-craftsman IO] Faceplate & Dogs

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Carvel,
You are right to correct me.? The correct term would be driveplate for what I'm talking about.? So I'm looking for a driveplate and I can't imagine I would need one bigger than 6".? The reason I asked about dogs is that I've come across dogs that have a straight leg and it rides against a straight drive pin that is threaded into a driveplate.? There are some on Little Machine Shop.?? I don't really see if there is anymore versatility in that setup or not.? Just curious what guys were using and if a 6" driveplate is sufficient.
Thanks for correcting my terminology Carvel.
-Jody


Re: Faceplate & Dogs

 

Carvel,
You are right to correct me.? The correct term would be driveplate for what I'm talking about.? So I'm looking for a driveplate and I can't imagine I would need one bigger than 6".? The reason I asked about dogs is that I've come across dogs that have a straight leg and it rides against a straight drive pin that is threaded into a driveplate.? There are some on Little Machine Shop.?? I don't really see if there is anymore versatility in that setup or not.? Just curious what guys were using and if a 6" driveplate is sufficient.
Thanks for correcting my terminology Carvel.
-Jody