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URGENT - Help/Advise - Sewer Line Froze


 

Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

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Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via groups.io <pfa@...> wrote:

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Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

Thanks for the advice!

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:14?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

another vote for Michigan Power Rodding.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:14?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

Called them, am on their calendar for the morning. Anyone have a rough idea how much they tend to charge? I've had Roto-Rooter out twice in the past 2 months.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:22?PM dan freidus via <freidus=[email protected]> wrote:
another vote for Michigan Power Rodding.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:14?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

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I¡¯m a little surprised they aren¡¯t coming tonight. They came late at night (might have even been a weekend) the one time we needed them. Sorry, can¡¯t remember what they charged.

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:38?PM, PF Anderson via groups.io <pfa@...> wrote:

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Called them, am on their calendar for the morning. Anyone have a rough idea how much they tend to charge? I've had Roto-Rooter out twice in the past 2 months.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:22?PM dan freidus via <freidus=[email protected]> wrote:
another vote for Michigan Power Rodding.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:14?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

Evidently a LOT of folk have had the same?problem. Every slot for the night is already full. That's what they told me. 11 tomorrow morning is the next available opening. Urgh. And we were running hot water.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:50?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
I¡¯m a little surprised they aren¡¯t coming tonight. They came late at night (might have even been a weekend) the one time we needed them. Sorry, can¡¯t remember what they charged.

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:38?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Called them, am on their calendar for the morning. Anyone have a rough idea how much they tend to charge? I've had Roto-Rooter out twice in the past 2 months.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:22?PM dan freidus via <freidus=[email protected]> wrote:
another vote for Michigan Power Rodding.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:14?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

They came and cleared a sink drain for us last year. They had to snake out about 50 feet and it cost about $250. I think their charge is based on the size of the line, rather than time they spend working. That said, I can't remember if they did it all with a small snake or had to go into a bigger machine since they went into the outdoor pipes.

Dan?

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:39?PM PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:
Called them, am on their calendar for the morning. Anyone have a rough idea how much they tend to charge? I've had Roto-Rooter out twice in the past 2 months.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:22?PM dan freidus via <freidus=[email protected]> wrote:
another vote for Michigan Power Rodding.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:14?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.


 

have? used them several times.? they will quote cost after diagnosis and before work.? cost based on how far they snake, use of tv, removal of pipes, toilets etc. it? will be in the $100s ...

jm




On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 17:52, PF Anderson via groups.io
<pfa@...> wrote:
Evidently a LOT of folk have had the same?problem. Every slot for the night is already full. That's what they told me. 11 tomorrow morning is the next available opening. Urgh. And we were running hot water.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:50?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
I¡¯m a little surprised they aren¡¯t coming tonight. They came late at night (might have even been a weekend) the one time we needed them. Sorry, can¡¯t remember what they charged.

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:38?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Called them, am on their calendar for the morning. Anyone have a rough idea how much they tend to charge? I've had Roto-Rooter out twice in the past 2 months.

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:22?PM dan freidus via <freidus=[email protected]> wrote:
another vote for Michigan Power Rodding.

Dan

On Mon, Jan 20, 2025 at 5:14?PM mneuliep <Martin@...> wrote:
Forget Roto Rooter, call Michigan Power Rodding?

On Jan 20, 2025, at 5:09?PM, PF Anderson via <pfa=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi, all,

I just popped into the basement to check on the laundry, and found water backing up from all three of the floor drains that go to the outside line. That suggests to me that the pipe froze outside.

I phoned Roto-Rooter, and they will call back in the morning. My question is what to do in the meantime. I assume, stop running water (except for the one sink with a pipe on an outside wall). I read on the internet to run hot water, but I think that could backfire if the ice plug is outside the house.

Does anyone have experience with something like this?

THANK YOU!

/PF

--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.



--
PF Anderson, pfa@...
Emerging Technologies Informationist, University of Michigan?
ORCID:?0000-0001-6348-2324
Pronouns: all pronouns acceptable
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your work schedule.
The University of Michigan is located on the traditional territory of the Anishinaabe people.? In 1817, the Ojibwe, Odawa, and Bodewadami Nations made the largest single land transfer to the University of Michigan.? This was offered ceremonially as a gift through the Treaty at the Foot of the Rapids so that their children could be educated.? Through these words of acknowledgement, their contemporary and ancestral ties to the land and their contributions to the University are renewed and reaffirmed.