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Hi George and the gang
Well my fondness for N scale and all those little things I grew up with hasn't waned. But the prospects of a collection no longer seen and even less likely a layout of any description, now that I'm an unofficial pensioner too, means inevitably I must resign my spectator post on this and other groups. I notice many fade away and it's been a long time since the heyday of Y** groups.
I lost a dear friend back in 2017 and with him, his massive layout on which I spent many enjoyable hours for exactly 10 years, (I was also living there looking after his beloved cats! quite often)- doing scenery (it was a typical plywood central in 2007) and ribbing his 'traditional' outlook on terrain (ie British) and exotic mixture of fantasies (US/ British/ Japanese! and a few 'proxy' New Zealand models) of running collections. He sold and parted up the layout prior to his unfortunate last days to save his families burden.
So in a week or so I'll sign out, and George I'll be in touch separately about UMTRR,
but thanks all for the entertainment,
regards davew
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Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood. More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While" since there has been <any> activity on this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of Last Year.? I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that offer more instant gratification. Any thoughts? George (Your list-owner)
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I would agree.? It took me a while to even recognize this group, when the email arrived.
I think we can shut it down.
Tom Meserole
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 8:09 PM G.J. Irwin < groups@...> wrote: Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood.
More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While" since there has been <any> activity on this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of Last Year.?
I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that offer more instant gratification.
Any thoughts?
George (Your list-owner)
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On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 01:09 PM, G.J. Irwin wrote:
Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood.
More generally, however, ...
Any thoughts?
Thanks George for both responding and asking. You will understand it is entirely my own decision to cut back on less 'activities' for myself and no reflection on the group. I've enjoyed the interactions and help I received over the years, a much kinder group than many of the hardline chaps around the others. I suppose the audience for the genre is reducing, as they always do, and hence the activity goes with it. I think your efforts and the group, whilst slow, and I did occasionally punch out a cheeky post I think just to get some debate, have always been effective and encouraging. UMTRR can't possibly fail, so this avenue doesn't exhaust much energy compared with that. I cut back last year on newsletters from the many large companies that I had lived in hope of seeing models come from (for the old D&RGW- a railroad I specifically targeted and researched since 1998 actually, with one short trip to Denver/ Col Springs etc and a memorable ride across from SF on the Cal Zephyr in '02. So I briefly lived a little and saw the West and Mountains from the railroad! (Actually I did a lot more research in Mass. on the AWI...) . I'd love to pass on my collection to someone/s who will cherish them for what they are- not valuable but effective and entertaining pieces of history. I've made good runners out of most old material, repaired a few and refurbished to 'company' detail a lot, but never quite got them finished. With my friends passing it all very much fell out of favour. I guess if there are competing attractions, I don't know much about them as I've slipped away from actve research- but I don't think I'd want to encourage you to close it down. Yes I agree the technology era, whilst inducing good, and made many people rich, has also irreparably damaged society by enhancing the need, desire and demand for 'instant gratification' which i find sad really. I wish you all (AND ALL) the best results for the future, regards for now davew 冲冲冲≠≠≠冲冲冲
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I was thinking along the lines of the same thing too as was about to check to see if I was still receiving the emails ? Any ideas ? Maybe expand the A1G to building kits & accessories ? And maybe first generation track if that's feasible ? Personally, I would like to see Atlas give a nod to the first generation through its Trainman line and re-release the original cars & road numbers individually and in sets and package them as so. Mattel has done it with their Hot Wheels line so why not Atlas ? I wouldn't mind collecting again. But maybe that just me ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote: Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood. More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While" since there has been <any> activity on this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of Last Year.? I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that offer more instant gratification. Any thoughts? George (Your list-owner)
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Today every body is using Facebook, so much easier to post
photo's video's and generally communicate. There is still a lot of
people collecting vintage n scale.
I understand there are some that do use or trust Facebook, it's
safe as long as you learn how to use and control what you want to
see and what other people can see.? I'm 75yrs and use Facebook for
several groups I belong to with no issues.
Regards
Davinia Bruce
On 1/06/2022 3:50 am, guitarrick_c1812
via groups.io wrote:
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I was thinking along the lines of the same thing too as was about
to check to see if I was still receiving the emails ? Any ideas ?
Maybe expand the A1G to building kits & accessories ? And
maybe first generation track if that's feasible ? Personally, I
would like to see Atlas give a nod to the first generation through
its Trainman line and re-release the original cars & road
numbers individually and in sets and package them as so. Mattel
has done it with their Hot Wheels line so why not Atlas ? I
wouldn't mind collecting again. But maybe that just me ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin
Dave, sorry to see you leaving the
"spectator" mode but understood.
More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While"
since there has been <any> activity on this group.?
Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of
Last Year.?
I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.?
There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that
offer more instant gratification.
Any thoughts?
George (Your list-owner)
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Actually opening up the group to Facebook wouldn't be such a bad think and open up to others who other wise might not know of its existence ? Makes it easier to post images and help things get moving once again. Just need to select a couple of moderators, set rules and decide wether you want the page public or private. Here's a couple of background headers I just made up if you decide to go this route just for idea purposes.? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote: Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood. More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While" since there has been <any> activity on this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of Last Year.? I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that offer more instant gratification. Any thoughts? George (Your list-owner)
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I like groups and closed my Facebook account over a year ago.
Instant gratification is one of the major problems with the USA
society.
Neal
On 5/31/22 4:26 PM, Davinia Bruce
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Today every body is using Facebook, so much easier to post
photo's video's and generally communicate. There is still a lot
of people collecting vintage n scale.
I understand there are some that do use or trust Facebook, it's
safe as long as you learn how to use and control what you want
to see and what other people can see.? I'm 75yrs and use
Facebook for several groups I belong to with no issues.
Regards
Davinia Bruce
On 1/06/2022 3:50 am,
guitarrick_c1812 via groups.io wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of the same thing too as was
about to check to see if I was still receiving the emails ? Any
ideas ? Maybe expand the A1G to building kits & accessories
? And maybe first generation track if that's feasible ?
Personally, I would like to see Atlas give a nod to the first
generation through its Trainman line and re-release the original
cars & road numbers individually and in sets and package
them as so. Mattel has done it with their Hot Wheels line so why
not Atlas ? I wouldn't mind collecting again. But maybe that
just me ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin
Dave, sorry to see you leaving the
"spectator" mode but understood.
More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A
While" since there has been <any> activity on this
group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on
June 21 of Last Year.?
I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.?
There are simply too many alternatives to choose from
that offer more instant gratification.
Any thoughts?
George (Your list-owner)
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I too am not a fan of Facebook,
and am open to the idea of expanding the group, perhaps to
include other early generation N modeling products and vendors.
Cheers,
Martin
On 2022-06-01 2:04 p.m., Wm. Neal Lewis
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I like groups and closed my Facebook account over a year ago.
Instant gratification is one of the major problems with the USA
society.
Neal
On 5/31/22 4:26 PM, Davinia Bruce
wrote:
Today every body is using Facebook, so much easier to post
photo's video's and generally communicate. There is still a
lot of people collecting vintage n scale.
I understand there are some that do use or trust Facebook,
it's safe as long as you learn how to use and control what you
want to see and what other people can see.? I'm 75yrs and use
Facebook for several groups I belong to with no issues.
Regards
Davinia Bruce
On 1/06/2022 3:50 am,
guitarrick_c1812 via groups.io wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of the same thing too as was
about to check to see if I was still receiving the emails ?
Any ideas ? Maybe expand the A1G to building kits &
accessories ? And maybe first generation track if that's
feasible ? Personally, I would like to see Atlas give a nod to
the first generation through its Trainman line and re-release
the original cars & road numbers individually and in sets
and package them as so. Mattel has done it with their Hot
Wheels line so why not Atlas ? I wouldn't mind collecting
again. But maybe that just me ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin
Dave, sorry to see you leaving
the "spectator" mode but understood.
More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A
While" since there has been <any> activity on
this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted
on June 21 of Last Year.?
I believe that this group has worn out its
usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to
choose from that offer more instant gratification.
Any thoughts?
George (Your list-owner)
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I agree with Ira and Neal. I would hate to see the forum end. I don't do facebook and never will. Also, uploaded files are always there for reference.
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To me though, the determining factor should be how much effort it is for George to keep it open.
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Doug
In a message dated 6/1/2022 1:04:44 PM Central Standard Time, wnlewis@... writes:
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I like groups and closed my Facebook account over a year ago. Instant gratification is one of the major problems with the USA society. Neal
On 5/31/22 4:26 PM, Davinia Bruce wrote:
Today every body is using Facebook, so much easier to post photo's video's and generally communicate. There is still a lot of people collecting vintage n scale.
I understand there are some that do use or trust Facebook, it's safe as long as you learn how to use and control what you want to see and what other people can see.? I'm 75yrs and use Facebook for several groups I belong to with no issues.
Regards
Davinia Bruce
On 1/06/2022 3:50 am, guitarrick_c1812 via groups.io wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of the same thing too as was about to check to see if I was still receiving the emails ? Any ideas ? Maybe expand the A1G to building kits & accessories ? And maybe first generation track if that's feasible ? Personally, I would like to see Atlas give a nod to the first generation through its Trainman line and re-release the original cars & road numbers individually and in sets and package them as so. Mattel has done it with their Hot Wheels line so why not Atlas ? I wouldn't mind collecting again. But maybe that just me ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin
Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood. More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While" since there has been <any> activity on this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of Last Year.? I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that offer more instant gratification. Any thoughts? George (Your list-owner)
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Sorry Martin, I would have included you in the group I agree with, too. I wrote my post before I read yours. Doh!
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Doug
In a message dated 6/1/2022 1:23:16 PM Central Standard Time, 914four@... writes:
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I too am not a fan of Facebook,
and am open to the idea of expanding the group, perhaps to include other early generation N modeling products and vendors.
Cheers,
Martin
On 2022-06-01 2:04 p.m., Wm. Neal Lewis wrote:
I like groups and closed my Facebook account over a year ago. Instant gratification is one of the major problems with the USA society. Neal
On 5/31/22 4:26 PM, Davinia Bruce wrote:
Today every body is using Facebook, so much easier to post photo's video's and generally communicate. There is still a lot of people collecting vintage n scale.
I understand there are some that do use or trust Facebook, it's safe as long as you learn how to use and control what you want to see and what other people can see.? I'm 75yrs and use Facebook for several groups I belong to with no issues.
Regards
Davinia Bruce
On 1/06/2022 3:50 am, guitarrick_c1812 via groups.io wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of the same thing too as was about to check to see if I was still receiving the emails ? Any ideas ? Maybe expand the A1G to building kits & accessories ? And maybe first generation track if that's feasible ? Personally, I would like to see Atlas give a nod to the first generation through its Trainman line and re-release the original cars & road numbers individually and in sets and package them as so. Mattel has done it with their Hot Wheels line so why not Atlas ? I wouldn't mind collecting again. But maybe that just me ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin
Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood. More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While" since there has been <any> activity on this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of Last Year.? I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that offer more instant gratification. Any thoughts? George (Your list-owner)
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No problem Doug, It’s the intention that counts :-) Cheers,
Martin? Sent from a mobile device, may contain typos
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On Jun 1, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Douglas Gosha via groups.io <dgosha@...> wrote:
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Sorry Martin, I would have included you in the group I agree with, too. I wrote my post before I read yours. Doh!
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Doug
In a message dated 6/1/2022 1:23:16 PM Central Standard Time, 914four@... writes:
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I too am not a fan of Facebook,
and am open to the idea of expanding the group, perhaps to include other early generation N modeling products and vendors.
Cheers,
Martin
On 2022-06-01 2:04 p.m., Wm. Neal Lewis wrote:
I like groups and closed my Facebook account over a year ago. Instant gratification is one of the major problems with the USA society. Neal
On 5/31/22 4:26 PM, Davinia Bruce wrote:
Today every body is using Facebook, so much easier to post photo's video's and generally communicate. There is still a lot of people collecting vintage n scale.
I understand there are some that do use or trust Facebook, it's safe as long as you learn how to use and control what you want to see and what other people can see.? I'm 75yrs and use Facebook for several groups I belong to with no issues.
Regards
Davinia Bruce
On 1/06/2022 3:50 am, guitarrick_c1812 via groups.io wrote:
I was thinking along the lines of the same thing too as was about to check to see if I was still receiving the emails ? Any ideas ? Maybe expand the A1G to building kits & accessories ? And maybe first generation track if that's feasible ? Personally, I would like to see Atlas give a nod to the first generation through its Trainman line and re-release the original cars & road numbers individually and in sets and package them as so. Mattel has done it with their Hot Wheels line so why not Atlas ? I wouldn't mind collecting again. But maybe that just me ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick
On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 6:09 PM, G.J. Irwin
Dave, sorry to see you leaving the "spectator" mode but understood. More generally, however, I see that "My It's Been A While" since there has been <any> activity on this group.? Specifically, the last message was posted on June 21 of Last Year.? I believe that this group has worn out its usefulness.? There are simply too many alternatives to choose from that offer more instant gratification. Any thoughts? George (Your list-owner)
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All,?
? ? ? ?I read the posts here, I do agree with others here . I too would not like to see this Group Disappear , As Martin stated perhaps it is time to expand. ?Me, I would expand the group or entice George ?or Doug to include monthly pages to . ?with the Likes of other Early N-SCALE Locomotives etc, I would include?ATLAS / ROCO?, Arnold etc. Maybe add A For Sale / Trade section in irwinsjournal.com/a1g. ?Just my opinion. ??
Tom?
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I would like to see this group continue. I have been in N scale since Thanksgiving 1967 when I received my first N scale trainset. This was an Arnold Rapido 0-6-0 and some freight cars. This little locomotive still runs well.
Finally, I am creating a list of everything I have collected since then. This list and its links and archives really have helped. I have had items to sell but by the time I found them the potential buyer either no longer needed them or lost interest.
Arnold Rapido, Minitrix, Con-Cor, Atlas and so on have evolved into many new brands and great models I could not dream of in 1970. The Atlas/Rivarossi passenger cars to me were wonderful. The Atlas/Rivarossi steam locomotives were wonderful in spite of their faults. Now we have even more wonderful steam models and diesels, and electrics, and turbines, and rolling stock. Great hobby. 55 years.
I also have a Lionel electric that dates from around the early 1920s.
Chuck Seemann? ? Aurora, Colorado
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