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Atlas 2287 IC 41677 vs IC 41877

learmoia
 

Has anyone found legible proof that Atlas released 41677 and 41877 in the brown color?

Or is 41877 the result of print stamp wear on 41677?

I'm looking at 5 examples.. 3 brown, 2 orange.. Both Orange cars are clearly 41677..

One Brown car.. the 6/8 was printed over a rivet line and sort of looks like an 8.. but the reverse side clearly looks like a 6.

The other 2 brown examples the numbers are too thick and close together to make out a 6 vs 8.. So it looks like an 8.. but it could be the plate wore down to make a 6 an 8

~Ian



On Sun, May 26, 2019, 22:43 Ian L <learmoia@...> wrote:
The thread refers to items advertised 1947.

~Ian

On Sun, May 26, 2019, 22:32 NYCAP Email <tom39@...> wrote:
The photo which learmoia shows a ATLAS ho-SCALE switch not a ATLAS a1g N-SCALE switch.?

Tom


On May 26, 2019, at 22:04, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:

Link to a photo of an early Atlas switch.. these predate anything from snap trak line.. and Brass rail!




On Sun, May 26, 2019, 20:31 Douglas Gosha via Groups.Io <dgosha=[email protected]> wrote:
I imagine they didn't call them "Snap Switches" yet, then. Or did they even have a switch machine attached and were more like the "Custom Line"? of today?

Doug

In a message dated 5/26/2019 5:54:46 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:

Gang,

As you know, I have been perusing the Model Railroader "75 Years" DVD in search of advertisements for, among other things, A1G equipment.

I've also been making my way through the MR issues chronologically.?? And I've come to the December 1947 issue, which contains what I believe to be the first advertisement of any kind from the Atlas Tool Company.?? No, it's not A1G, nor is it N Scale (what do you mean, "off topic"?).? It's an ad for "The Atlas Completely Assembled Turnout" in #4, #6, #8 (!) and WYE configurations.? All except the #8 had a list price of $2.25, the #8 was $2.50.?? Plugging that into the Inflation Calculator, I see that $2.25 is about $24.57 now.? Hmm...

Only about another 20 years or so until I get to a "real" A1G advertisement...

Cheers,
George (your list owner)

 

Hi Ian,
? ? I have both color variant of the IC box car. The Orange and brown cars both read IC 41677. The Orange cars "I" on black circle logo is split and off center towards the bottom. The brown variant of the same cars "I" is solid and is close to center. The printing of the number on the brown car is on the rivet line and not on the rivet line on the Orange car. Sure their might be other variants of this same car.
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On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:19 PM, learmoia
<learmoia@...> wrote:
Has anyone found legible proof that Atlas released 41677 and 41877 in the brown color?
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Or is 41877 the result of print stamp wear on 41677?
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I'm looking at 5 examples.. 3 brown, 2 orange.. Both Orange cars are clearly 41677..
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One Brown car.. the 6/8 was printed over a rivet line and sort of looks like an 8.. but the reverse side clearly looks like a 6.
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The other 2 brown examples the numbers are too thick and close together to make out a 6 vs 8.. So it looks like an 8.. but it could be the plate wore down to make a 6 an 8
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~Ian
 

Note there are two different Tampo stamps on these cars. One has "Mainline of Mid-America" all the way across under "Illinois Central". The other has "Mainline of Mid-America" crowded over on the right side under "Illinois Central".

So far, I have seen the former version only on orange cars and the latter version on brown cars. The former version definitely is 41677. The latter version, as far as I'm concerned, is definitely 41877. On one of my brown cars, the 8 is clearly printed on the flat surface instead of on the riveted seam.

Doug

In a message dated 9/11/2019 6:19:07 PM Central Standard Time, learmoia@... writes:

Has anyone found legible proof that Atlas released 41677 and 41877 in the brown color?

Or is 41877 the result of print stamp wear on 41677?

I'm looking at 5 examples.. 3 brown, 2 orange.. Both Orange cars are clearly 41677..

One Brown car.. the 6/8 was printed over a rivet line and sort of looks like an 8.. but the reverse side clearly looks like a 6.

The other 2 brown examples the numbers are too thick and close together to make out a 6 vs 8.. So it looks like an 8.. but it could be the plate wore down to make a 6 an 8

~Ian



On Sun, May 26, 2019, 22:43 Ian L <learmoia@...> wrote:
The thread refers to items advertised 1947.

~Ian

On Sun, May 26, 2019, 22:32 NYCAP Email <tom39@...> wrote:
The photo which learmoia shows a ATLAS ho-SCALE switch not a ATLAS a1g N-SCALE switch.?

Tom



On May 26, 2019, at 22:04, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:

Link to a photo of an early Atlas switch.. these predate anything from snap trak line.. and Brass rail!




On Sun, May 26, 2019, 20:31 Douglas Gosha via Groups.Io <dgosha=[email protected]> wrote:
I imagine they didn't call them "Snap Switches" yet, then. Or did they even have a switch machine attached and were more like the "Custom Line"? of today?

Doug

In a message dated 5/26/2019 5:54:46 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:

Gang,

As you know, I have been perusing the Model Railroader "75 Years" DVD in search of advertisements for, among other things, A1G equipment.

I've also been making my way through the MR issues chronologically.?? And I've come to the December 1947 issue, which contains what I believe to be the first advertisement of any kind from the Atlas Tool Company.?? No, it's not A1G, nor is it N Scale (what do you mean, "off topic"?).? It's an ad for "The Atlas Completely Assembled Turnout" in #4, #6, #8 (!) and WYE configurations.? All except the #8 had a list price of $2.25, the #8 was $2.50.?? Plugging that into the Inflation Calculator, I see that $2.25 is about $24.57 now.? Hmm...

Only about another 20 years or so until I get to a "real" A1G advertisement...

Cheers,
George (your list owner)

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