Re: 'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
(If I can attach photos...) Here is my pair.. :)...?
I know of the photo that you are referring to, I saw?it
in a magazine (I believe it was in Model Railroader) just after Atlas had
released the tank car. When Atlas had released the beer can car in the GATX red
scheme, I?bought one and ran it with the GATX whale car.? When people
questioned me about it, I would tell them that the shipper could not get the
full load into the one tank car.?? Michael
On Friday, November 30, 2018, 12:23:57 PM PST, learmoia < learmoia@...> wrote:
Somewhere on the internet, I found a promo photo of the whale tank car coupled to a beer can tank (similar to the older Atlas model).. I didnt save it, and I wish I could find it again. On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 11:07 G.J. Irwin < groups@... wrote:
And here's an article on the prototype "whale," GATX 96500...
--George
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? That's a huge car by any standard whether it be scale or prototype.?
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Re: 'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
Funny! I wonder which car the shipper started with?
\:^)
Doug
In a message dated 11/30/2018 4:35:41 PM Central Standard Time, goldrod_1@... writes:
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I know of the photo that you are referring to, I saw?it in a magazine (I believe it was in Model Railroader) just after Atlas had released the tank car. When Atlas had released the beer can car in the GATX red scheme, I?bought one and ran it with the GATX whale car.? When people questioned me about it, I would tell them that the shipper could not get the full load into the one tank car.??
Michael
On Friday, November 30, 2018, 12:23:57 PM PST, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Somewhere on the internet, I found a promo photo of the whale tank car coupled to a beer can tank (similar to the older Atlas model).. I didnt save it, and I wish I could find it again.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 11:07 G.J. Irwin < groups@... wrote:
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Re: 'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
I know of the photo that you are referring to, I saw?it
in a magazine (I believe it was in Model Railroader) just after Atlas had
released the tank car. When Atlas had released the beer can car in the GATX red
scheme, I?bought one and ran it with the GATX whale car.? When people
questioned me about it, I would tell them that the shipper could not get the
full load into the one tank car.?? Michael
On Friday, November 30, 2018, 12:23:57 PM PST, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:
Somewhere on the internet, I found a promo photo of the whale tank car coupled to a beer can tank (similar to the older Atlas model).. I didnt save it, and I wish I could find it again.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 11:07 G.J. Irwin < groups@... wrote:
And here's an article on the prototype "whale," GATX 96500...
--George
?
? That's a huge car by any standard whether it be scale or prototype.?
_._,_
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Re: 'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
Somewhere on the internet, I found a promo photo of the whale tank car coupled to a beer can tank (similar to the older Atlas model).. I didnt save it, and I wish I could find it again.
On Thu, Nov 29, 2018, 11:07 G.J. Irwin < groups@... wrote:
And here's an article on the prototype "whale," GATX 96500...
--George
?
? That's a huge car by any standard whether it be scale or prototype.?
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Re: 'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
And here's an article on the prototype "whale," GATX 96500...
http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/railwhales/bynumber/gatx096500.htm
--George
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? That's a huge car by any standard whether it be scale or prototype.?
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Re: 'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
George, ? That's a huge car by any standard whether it be scale or prototype.?
On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 10:55 AM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote: Gang,
Somehow I've managed to stumble into the digital edition of the January 2019 issue of Model Railroader (not sure how...) and on Page 26 is Jim Kelly's regular column "N Scale Insight."? The topic of his column for that issue is our old friend the A1G Whale-Belly Tank Car.? Jim's approach toward the car is more "What were they thinking?" but I'd counter that Roco's product for Atlas, released in 1970, had not been run before and hasn't been done since.? That's not the only A1G car that has that distinction.
Perhaps a Letter to the Editor is in order...
Cheers,
George
(your list-owner)
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Re: 'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
Thanks, George.
Yeah, he was around back then. He should know Atlas' strategy back then; the release of uncommon equipment, in addition to the usual stuff, which was exhibited in their locomotive models too.
Doug
In a message dated 11/28/2018 11:55:44 AM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
Gang,
Somehow I've managed to stumble into the digital edition of the January 2019 issue of Model Railroader (not sure how...) and on Page 26 is Jim Kelly's regular column "N Scale Insight."? The topic of his column for that issue is our old friend the A1G Whale-Belly Tank Car.? Jim's approach toward the car is more "What were they thinking?" but I'd counter that Roco's product for Atlas, released in 1970, had not been run before and hasn't been done since.? That's not the only A1G car that has that distinction.
Perhaps a Letter to the Editor is in order...
Cheers,
George
(your list-owner)
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'Tale of the Whale' in January 2018 Model Railroader
Gang,
Somehow I've managed to stumble into the digital edition of the January 2019 issue of Model Railroader (not sure how...) and on Page 26 is Jim Kelly's regular column "N Scale Insight."? The topic of his column for that issue is our old friend the A1G Whale-Belly Tank Car.? Jim's approach toward the car is more "What were they thinking?" but I'd counter that Roco's product for Atlas, released in 1970, had not been run before and hasn't been done since.? That's not the only A1G car that has that distinction.
Perhaps a Letter to the Editor is in order...
Cheers,
George
(your list-owner)
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I still run my upgraded 85¡¯ stock cars and depressed centre cars, and I have a couple that I converted to track cleaners back in the early nineties. I also have a helium car and a vinegar car, but I haven¡¯t run them for some time.
Cheers,
Martin
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Yes, the white ones, I am using the translucent ones now.
On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 1:22:19 PM PDT, Douglas Gosha via Groups.Io <dgosha@...> wrote:
Is it the white ones that went brittle on you? Those are the ones that did for me. The later orange-yellow ones and modern translucent ones are OK.
Doug
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Is it the white ones that went brittle on you? Those are the ones that did for me. The later orange-yellow ones and modern translucent ones are OK.
Doug
In a message dated 9/25/2018 3:16:27 PM Central Standard Time, goldrod_1@... writes:
Rick,
I too have started a new N scale project, it started as a test track but has become a small switch layout. Using 99% Atlas/Roco track, I found that the A1G track insulators have become brittle over the years (have used newer Atlas insulators). The next section to be built will be a small yard. Hopefully I can start to dust of all those Atlas, AHM and early Con Cor cars.
Michael
On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 11:04:22 AM PDT, guitarrick_c1812 via Groups.Io <guitarrick_c1812@...> wrote:
Hi George,
? ?Currently will be starting a new N scale project. And plan to run my A1G cars. What's the sense of having them if you don't enjoy and run them ? ?It brings back great memories of growing up in the 60's and getting these cars new and adding them to your train set. Best memory was when my aunt Diana and uncle Gene gave me the CN Center depressed car with transformer load for Christmas. My uncle Gene was a bit of a jokster (in a good way) ?by placing the car in multiple boxes from the largest down to the smallest the Atlas plastic case would fit inside. Open one box only to find a smaller box inside. When I got down to that smallest box I was wondering what would possibly be inside ? Man was I floored when I discovered that neat car inside. Not sure if the release date of that car though it feel that was some where around 68/69? But that memory has lasted years. That to me as we one of the best Christmas presents I got during that time period.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:15 AM, G.J. Irwin
<groups@...> wrote:
Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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Yup. '68-'69. Those were the years of greatest expansion of the A1G's. And yes, adding a new car was a real thrill. Anytime I rode my bike up to Nichol's Hobby shop and bought one (after saving up for what seemed like years -? a whole $1.50 - $2.00), I could hardly stand the time it took to ride home.
In my previous post, I alluded to not keeping up with the latest. The one exception, however, was converting to MT couplers. I began converting as soon as they were available in 1968. My A1G cars all got MT's except for my first 5-10 which I wanted to preserve for posterity. It was magic to see those little knuckles couple together without moving the car even an iota.
I still get out those first ones with Rapidos still on them just to see them go around the track.
Doug
In a message dated 9/25/2018 1:04:22 PM Central Standard Time, guitarrick_c1812@... writes:
Hi George,
? ?Currently will be starting a new N scale project. And plan to run my A1G cars. What's the sense of having them if you don't enjoy and run them ? ?It brings back great memories of growing up in the 60's and getting these cars new and adding them to your train set. Best memory was when my aunt Diana and uncle Gene gave me the CN Center depressed car with transformer load for Christmas. My uncle Gene was a bit of a jokster (in a good way) ?by placing the car in multiple boxes from the largest down to the smallest the Atlas plastic case would fit inside. Open one box only to find a smaller box inside. When I got down to that smallest box I was wondering what would possibly be inside ? Man was I floored when I discovered that neat car inside. Not sure if the release date of that car though it feel that was some where around 68/69? But that memory has lasted years. That to me as we one of the best Christmas presents I got during that time period.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:15 AM, G.J. Irwin
<groups@...> wrote:
Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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Rick, I too have started a new N scale project, it started as a test track but has become a small switch layout. Using 99% Atlas/Roco track, I found that the A1G track insulators have become brittle over the years (have used newer Atlas insulators). The next section to be built will be a small yard. Hopefully I can start to dust of all those Atlas, AHM and early Con Cor cars.
Michael?
On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 11:04:22 AM PDT, guitarrick_c1812 via Groups.Io <guitarrick_c1812@...> wrote:
Hi George, ? ?Currently will be starting a new N scale project. And plan to run my A1G cars. What's the sense of having them if you don't enjoy and run them ? ?It brings back great memories of growing up in the 60's and getting these cars new and adding them to your train set. Best memory was when my aunt Diana and uncle Gene gave me the CN Center depressed car with transformer load for Christmas. My uncle Gene was a bit of a jokster (in a good way) ?by placing the car in multiple boxes from the largest down to the smallest the Atlas plastic case would fit inside. Open one box only to find a smaller box inside. When I got down to that smallest box I was wondering what would possibly be inside ? Man was I floored when I discovered that neat car inside. Not sure if the release date of that car though it feel that was some where around 68/69? But that memory has lasted years. That to me as we one of the best Christmas presents I got during that time period.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:15 AM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote: Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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Hi George, ? ?Currently will be starting a new N scale project. And plan to run my A1G cars. What's the sense of having them if you don't enjoy and run them ? ?It brings back great memories of growing up in the 60's and getting these cars new and adding them to your train set. Best memory was when my aunt Diana and uncle Gene gave me the CN Center depressed car with transformer load for Christmas. My uncle Gene was a bit of a jokster (in a good way) ?by placing the car in multiple boxes from the largest down to the smallest the Atlas plastic case would fit inside. Open one box only to find a smaller box inside. When I got down to that smallest box I was wondering what would possibly be inside ? Man was I floored when I discovered that neat car inside. Not sure if the release date of that car though it feel that was some where around 68/69? But that memory has lasted years. That to me as we one of the best Christmas presents I got during that time period.
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 8:15 AM, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote: Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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i have many of the AIG freight cars.? Many ofthem are of uniqude design, such as the container flat cars,,pulpwood cara, the 85 foot hi cube cattle cars and those 94 foot jumbo tank cars.
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On September 25, 2018 at 11:15 AM "G.J. Irwin" <groups@...> wrote:
Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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My helium tank cars, a vinegar tank car, several of the steel
side reefers and a few of the 40' double deck stock cars are still active. The rest have gone to the shelf.
Michael Bishop
On Tuesday, September 25, 2018, 8:15:45 AM PDT, G.J. Irwin <groups@...> wrote:
Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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I still run a lot of them. Of course, I have never really kept up with the latest anyway, but when you're three or more feet away from a train, the cars look the same, regardless of the generation. If you like the detail and all that, great but I have just never been that interested.
They are still pretty desirable too. An eBay auction just ended the other day with some original Atlas cars in it, along with a UP RSC-2, and they went for 178 bucks! I was surprised.
Doug
In a message dated 9/25/2018 10:16:02 AM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:
Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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Gang,
I've been slowly going through a backlog of print magazines from this year (don't ask!) and I see that model railroad feature stories still, well, feature A1G rolling stock.? Although they've long been surpassed by later releases, I think this is fascinating.?
The latest example I note is in the September/October 2018 issue of N Scale Magazine.? The article "Still Workin' on the Railroad" has photos which include the A1G Monon composite gondola (Catalog 2233).? And it's been some fifty years since it was first available!
My A1G cars have largely been retired from regular service, but how about yours?
Cheers,
George
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Right. The blanking out is related to the Importer's name. If Roco needed some floors to use on a different importer's cars, they blanked out the original Importer's name so they could use the floors and not discard them. Hence, just leaving the country of origin.
A scratched out name would not be from the factory. They always used a hot instrument, as d indicated, a soldering iron or similar, to do it.
Doug
In a message dated 6/22/2018 9:50:03 PM Central Standard Time, nzntrains@... writes:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:40 am, NYCAP Email wrote:
I am thinking that someone possibly unknowingly scrapped out the manufacturers markings in a attempt to modify, update the car to appear modernized.?
No you don't "unknowingly" do that. Many of the cars I've seen in Trix and other boxes tho have had a soldering iron smear the inset label moulded on. Just leaves 'Italy' or 'Yugoslavia' in the next panel. I'm filling these in with tungsten putty to add weight. A bit of a chore, then file smooth and re-blacken/ weather a bit to disguise it. cheers d
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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:40 am, NYCAP Email wrote:
I am thinking that someone possibly unknowingly scrapped out the manufacturers markings in a attempt to modify, update the car to appear modernized.?
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No you don't "unknowingly" do that. Many of the cars I've seen in Trix and other boxes tho have had a soldering iron smear the inset label moulded on. Just leaves 'Italy' or 'Yugoslavia' in the next panel. I'm filling these in with tungsten putty to add weight. A bit of a chore, then file smooth and re-blacken/ weather a bit to disguise it. cheers d
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