Re: Where in the Genealogy do these cars fit in?
Kind of sound as the cars are not 1st generation. None of the first generation were made in the U.S. though the inserts state other wise. Atlas later did for a short while manufactured both track and freight cars here before moving that operation to China. Now it's completely possible that Atlas may of had some older inserts and used these on runs that were manufactured here.I'm thinking Atlas did their American run sometime during the 80's but unsure exactly what year. The other thing that is possible if you got these cars second hand some where that a unscrupulous seller used different parts to make up a car and try to pass that off as A1G? Something we all have have to watch out for.
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Where in the Genealogy do these cars fit in?
Any thoughts about what generation the following cars should
be in??
#2490: Western Fruit Express, road number 7958?
#2491: ART Wabash/N&W?
#2492: Canadian Pacific?
The three cars have the old White Atlas/Rivarossi "made
in Italy" inserts with the date of 1-1970.?
The car floors are marked "Atlas U.S.A.¡±?
The bodies are what Atlas is still using today for their
mechanical reefer.?
The roof walks and brake wheels are black, just like the
older Atlas cars.?
With the date of 1-1970 this places these cars just before
the Roco, Super Tank Car.?
They are not listed in the Atlas 1972 catalog but they are
in the 71/72 Atlas/Rivarossi catalog, a copy is on file in the File section. Michael Bishop
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Buckeye truck for Center Depressed flat
I am in NEED of a Buckeye truck for the Center Depressed Flat car, I broke the truck while trying to remove a wheel set. Thanks for any help. Michael Bishop
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Does anyone know which manufacture made to auto that Atlas sold? They have the same markings as the one Boyd?use to?sell?at that time, but the Boyd autos had tinted windows. Michael Bishop
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Re: A1G Locomotives Questions from 'Down Under'
hi, this is difficult as you want a very long three axle truck on the rear.? ? looking at the plans of the real thing n George Elwoods Fallen Flags site: ? ? what you need is a mech with 31' truck centres and a 9'4" lead truck.? The one that has this arrangement will be the RS1.? Then you've somehow got to transplant a truck from a PA1 or an Erie Built into where the rear truck goes on the RS1 mech, keeping the same truck centre ... so the middle axle should be at the midpoint of where the current rear truck is on the RS1.?i don't know if this can be done, mind ... it might be easier to have either the front or rear truck as?a dummy as two and three axle gear towers may be different heights. you may find the older Lifelike PA with the plastic chassis a? bit easier as it is probably easier to shorten. good luck as this is not an easy one. ? ? ben
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Re: A1G Locomotives Questions from 'Down Under'
I have seen parts on E Bay: Use N Scale,?Atlas and N scale, Rivarossi?in the search along with?N gauge or vintage N gauge or OOP N gauge. Also make sure to click the world wide radio search button to expand the search options. Hope that this might help.
Michael Bishop On Saturday, February 8, 2014 4:39 PM, "gji@..." wrote:
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Forwarded from about as far away as you can get from here and still be on Earth? : ) ? Mike is a member of our group.?? Feel free to respond to the list... we could use the traffic! ? Hi George and Co,
I'm Mike, all the way from the West Coast of Australia, about 20,000 miles
from you.
I have an ATLAS 1G locomotive, FM C-Liner?2 and 3 axle drive, which I
bought new in Queensland Australia in 1972.
As many have experienced, ?the motor is now U/S.
My questions to the group are :-
Are there any parts available to remotor this loco and how can I get
them?
Has anyone fitted a replacement chassis?
Does anyone want to part with one they have running?
George - please keep up the blog ok
Best regards,
Mike Gloss Duncraig, Perth, Western Australia
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A1G Locomotives Questions from 'Down Under'
Forwarded from about as far away as you can get from here and still be on Earth? : ) ? Mike is a member of our group.?? Feel free to respond to the list... we could use the traffic! ? Hi George and Co,
I'm Mike, all the way from the West Coast of Australia, about 20,000 miles
from you.
I have an ATLAS 1G locomotive, FM C-Liner?2 and 3 axle drive, which I
bought new in Queensland Australia in 1972.
As many have experienced, ?the motor is now U/S.
My questions to the group are :-
Are there any parts available to remotor this loco and how can I get
them?
Has anyone fitted a replacement chassis?
Does anyone want to part with one they have running?
George - please keep up the blog ok
Best regards,
Mike Gloss Duncraig, Perth, Western Australia
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I have uploaded a picture of the white fence and the green fence, not able to find the brown fence photo. I think that Preiser made the fencing for Atlas, Preiser had a fence kit #9551 which had all three colors plus what looks like an iron fence. Michael
On Thursday, February 6, 2014 10:46 AM, Rick Will wrote:
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I kind of think the fences came together in one box in the same manner as the Accessory set did with the crates, barrels and lumber being molded in 3 different colors. Back in the day manufacturers gave things a little more freely than they do today where you have to buy everything as a individual item. I could be wrong but it just seems to make more sense that the fences were sold that way. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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Ore car photos are approved!? I got the notice this morning... good old Yahoo.?? (I suppose we should be thinking about contingency plans in case YahooGroups goes away, which I see as a distinct possibility.)
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In terms of the fence, my mind's not clear on the subject, but I have been seeing a number of these fence packs on eBay-- all green so far-- and the rather high prices that these packs are getting.? I'm seeing relatively high prices?on?other brands of fence as well-- I'm not sure why.
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There do appear to be different styles of fence in the Atlas package based on the images with the eBay listings.?? I suspect, but haven't confirmed, that this was another "import" as the structure kits were.
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Cheers,
George (list owner)
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-----Original Message-----
From: dgosha@...
Sent: Feb 5, 2014 8:37 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: Re: [a1g] Fence #2814
I'm sorry I can't answer your question, Michael. I either never knew or
don't remember which way they appeared. I never bought any of the fence but I
see the illustration in the 1972 catalog shows different styles of fence.
Were the different styles all the same color in one box?
Also, I'm trying to approve your ore car photos but I keep getting an
error. Maybe George will see this and give it a try.
Doug
In a message dated 2/5/2014 6:18:43
P.M. Central Standard Time,
goldrod_1@... writes:
Atlas offered a fence set #2814, which was always listed as #2814 in the
catalog. But the fences came in three colors; green, brown and white. What I
am trying to find out is, did they come out all together or was one color
released then after awhile in an other color? I seem to remember seeing all
three of them at the hobby shops at the same time. Thanks for any help.
Michael Bishop
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I kind of think the fences came together in one box in the same manner as the Accessory set did with the crates, barrels and lumber being molded in 3 different colors. Back in the day manufacturers gave things a little more freely than they do today where you have to buy everything as a individual item. I could be wrong but it just seems to make more sense that the fences were sold that way. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Rick On Thursday, February 6, 2014 7:03 AM, George Irwin wrote:
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Ore car photos are approved!? I got the notice this morning... good old Yahoo.?? (I suppose we should be thinking about contingency plans in case YahooGroups goes away, which I see as a distinct possibility.)
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In terms of the fence, my mind's not clear on the subject, but I have been seeing a number of these fence packs on eBay-- all green so far-- and the rather high prices that these packs are getting.? I'm seeing relatively high prices?on?other brands of fence as well-- I'm not sure why.
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There do appear to be different styles of fence in the Atlas package based on the images with the eBay listings.?? I suspect, but haven't confirmed, that this was another "import" as the structure kits were.
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Cheers,
George (list owner)
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-----Original Message-----
From: dgosha@...
Sent: Feb 5, 2014 8:37 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: Re: [a1g] Fence #2814
I'm sorry I can't answer your question, Michael. I either never knew or
don't remember which way they appeared. I never bought any of the fence but I
see the illustration in the 1972 catalog shows different styles of fence.
Were the different styles all the same color in one box?
Also, I'm trying to approve your ore car photos but I keep getting an
error. Maybe George will see this and give it a try.
Doug
In a message dated 2/5/2014 6:18:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
goldrod_1@... writes:
Atlas offered a fence set #2814, which was always listed as #2814 in the
catalog. But the fences came in three colors; green, brown and white. What I
am trying to find out is, did they come out all together or was one color
released then after awhile in an other color? I seem to remember seeing all
three of them at the hobby shops at the same time. Thanks for any help.
Michael Bishop
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Ore car photos are approved!? I got the notice this morning... good old Yahoo.?? (I suppose we should be thinking about contingency plans in case YahooGroups goes away, which I see as a distinct possibility.)
?
In terms of the fence, my mind's not clear on the subject, but I have been seeing a number of these fence packs on eBay-- all green so far-- and the rather high prices that these packs are getting.? I'm seeing relatively high prices?on?other brands of fence as well-- I'm not sure why.
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There do appear to be different styles of fence in the Atlas package based on the images with the eBay listings.?? I suspect, but haven't confirmed, that this was another "import" as the structure kits were.
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Cheers,
George (list owner)
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-----Original Message-----
From: dgosha@...
Sent: Feb 5, 2014 8:37 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: Re: [a1g] Fence #2814
I'm sorry I can't answer your question, Michael. I either never knew or
don't remember which way they appeared. I never bought any of the fence but I
see the illustration in the 1972 catalog shows different styles of fence.
Were the different styles all the same color in one box?
Also, I'm trying to approve your ore car photos but I keep getting an
error. Maybe George will see this and give it a try.
Doug
In a message dated 2/5/2014 6:18:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
goldrod_1@... writes:
Atlas offered a fence set #2814, which was always listed as #2814 in the
catalog. But the fences came in three colors; green, brown and white. What I
am trying to find out is, did they come out all together or was one color
released then after awhile in an other color? I seem to remember seeing all
three of them at the hobby shops at the same time. Thanks for any help.
Michael Bishop
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I'm sorry I can't answer your question, Michael. I either never knew or
don't remember which way they appeared. I never bought any of the fence but I
see the illustration in the 1972 catalog shows different styles of fence. Were
the different styles all the same color in one box?
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Also, I'm trying to approve your ore car photos but I keep getting an
error. Maybe George will see this and give it a try.
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Doug
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In a message dated 2/5/2014 6:18:43 P.M. Central Standard Time,
goldrod_1@... writes:
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Atlas offered a fence set #2814, which was always listed as #2814 in the
catalog. But the fences came in three colors; green, brown and white. What I
am trying to find out is, did they come out all together?or was one color
released then after awhile in an other color? I seem to?remember seeing
all three of?them at the hobby shops?at the same time. Thanks for
any help.
Michael Bishop
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Atlas offered a fence set #2814, which was always listed as #2814 in the catalog. But the fences came in three colors; green, brown and white. What I am trying to find out is, did they come out all together?or was one color released then after awhile in an other color? I seem to?remember seeing all three of?them at the hobby shops?at the same time. Thanks for any help.
Michael Bishop
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Thanks Don for your answer.
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Yes, I know there are empty box, but to me, all information about A1G is very valuable. And, I always can find the separated parts, especially of the ore car.
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I will wait the information about the cost and the postal fees and, as soon as I know, I will send money throught PayPal, please help me to find the PayPal fee that they charge in order that I add to the payment.
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Have a nice week.
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Carlos
De: Don Dautel < ddd_67735@... >
Enviada: Domingo, 19 de Janeiro de 2014 22:41
Para: a1g@... < a1g@... >
Assunto: Re: [a1g] work shed
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Hi, you know these are empty boxes, with instructions..If you are interested I will have to check on shipping costsThanks Don
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From: amadori
To: a1g@...
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] work shed
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Hi, Don,
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Probably do you remember me, I?m Carlos, from Brasil, and I guess maybe outside USA one of few who collect Atlas A1G.
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I?m interest in those stuffs throught ?E-Bay.
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Could you agree to send to Brasil by USPS ?
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Anyway, thanks a lot!
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I?m proud to belong to this group!
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Carlos Amadori
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De: Don Dautel < ddd_67735@... >Enviada: Domingo, 12 de Janeiro de 2014 20:07Para: a1g@... < a1g@... >Assunto: [a1g] work shed?
Hi,
I have an Atlas #2822 work shed box and instructions..And a Atlas #5274 ore car kit, just the box and instructions..If someone would like to have these boxes for their collection, let me know..Just send a little money to cover shipping..If you want pictures let me know..
Thanks Don
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Hi, you know these are empty boxes, with instructions..If you are interested I will have to check on shipping costsThanks Don
From: amadori To: a1g@... Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [a1g] work shed
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Hi, Don,
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Probably do you remember me, I?m Carlos, from Brasil, and I guess maybe outside USA one of few who collect Atlas A1G.
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I?m interest in those stuffs throught ?E-Bay.
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Could you agree to send to Brasil by USPS ?
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Anyway, thanks a lot!
?
I?m proud to belong to this group!
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Carlos Amadori
De: Don Dautel < ddd_67735@... >Enviada: Domingo, 12 de Janeiro de 2014 20:07Para: a1g@... < a1g@... >Assunto: [a1g] work shed?
Hi,
I have an Atlas #2822 work shed box and instructions..And a Atlas #5274 ore car kit, just the box and instructions..If someone would like to have these boxes for their collection, let me know..Just send a little money to cover shipping..If you want pictures let me know..
Thanks Don
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Hi, Don,
?
Probably do you remember me, I?m Carlos, from Brasil, and I guess maybe outside USA one of few who collect Atlas A1G.
?
I?m interest in those stuffs throught ?E-Bay.
?
Could you agree to send to Brasil by USPS ?
?
Anyway, thanks a lot!
?
I?m proud to belong to this group!
?
Carlos Amadori
De: Don Dautel < ddd_67735@... >
Enviada: Domingo, 12 de Janeiro de 2014 20:07
Para: a1g@... < a1g@... >
Assunto: [a1g] work shed
?
Hi,
I have an Atlas #2822 work shed box and instructions..And a Atlas #5274 ore car kit, just the box and instructions..If someone would like to have these boxes for their collection, let me know..Just send a little money to cover shipping..If you want pictures let me know..
Thanks Don
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Hi,
I have an Atlas #2822 work shed box and instructions..And a Atlas #5274 ore car kit, just the box and instructions..If someone would like to have these boxes for their collection, let me know..Just send a little money to cover shipping..If you want pictures let me know..
Thanks Don
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When Atlas first released the C-LINERS was it just the powered A or was it the powered and dummy units? The early ads have no mention of a dummy unit only the powered unit.
Michael Bishop
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Thanks for all the replies....guess it just goes in the dollar bin?
--- In a1g@..., <a1g@...> wrote: thanks Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: dgosha <dgosha@...>
To: a1g <a1g@...>
Sent: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 3:01 am
Subject: Re: [a1g] A1G # 3014
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Actually, that car is covered on George's A1G site and he gives estimated
values. That particular car is not all that rare and so I would just ask a
reasonable price for it.
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Doug
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-----Original Message-----
From: dgosha
To: a1g
Sent: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 3:01 am
Subject: Re: [a1g] A1G # 3014
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Actually, that car is covered on George's A1G site and he gives estimated
values. That particular car is not all that rare and so I would just ask a
reasonable price for it.
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Doug
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Tom,
It's a DT from 84 then...thanks
-----Original Message-----
From: T Meserole
To: a1g
Sent: Thu, Sep 19, 2013 1:15 pm
Subject: Re: [a1g] A1G # 3014
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The car labeled "schmiDt" came out in 1984 or earlier and is work more.
The car labeled "schmiTt" came out in 1990.
I have bought them for as cheap at $3.
Tom in Kansas
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