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Re: #2508 Uncoupler.

ddd_67735
 

Hi, I have a remote control uncoupler in the orginial package..The # is #2508-400..So I guess they did come out..Don


#2508 Uncoupler.

goldrod_1
 

In the 1969 catalog Atlas list an Uncoupler #2508, was this ever brought out. I have never been able to find one and do not remember it ever at the hobby shop. I do remember back in the 1960's that there was a company selling uncoupler that mounted under the track. Thanks for any help.

Michael Bishop


Re: Atlas power packs

Rick Will
 

Atlas Right Track� Power Pack


Upgraded Electronics!

If you want to keep everything Atlas why not just upgrade to their new designed upgrade circuitry power pack. This would be a lot safer to use with motors and doesn't have a pulse circuit that would cause motors to overheat.
Rick
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From: dgosha@...
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 18:53:00 -0400
Subject: Re: [a1g] Atlas power packs





















Hi Michael,



The Atlas power packs are OK for what they are which is a very basic low

powered pack for running one or two locomotives.



There are actaully two different blue packs from the A1G era. The first one

was the little metalic blue one with the speed control and reverse switch

on the side. This is probably the one to which you are referring.



The other one has a metal black housing with a lighter blue plastic cover.

The speed control and reverse switch are on the top on this one. This same

pack, colored gold, was used by Aurora in some of their postage stamp train

sets.



Of course, neither of these packs will be as good as an MRC pack (I did the

same as you back then and bought an MRC 500N Golden Throttle Pack, a

wonderful pack built like the proverbial tank) but I wouldn't hesitate to buy one,

especially if you wish to build a historic layout wth original Atlas

Components.



Regards,

Doug



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Re: Atlas power packs

 

Hi Michael,

The Atlas power packs are OK for what they are which is a very basic low
powered pack for running one or two locomotives.

There are actaully two different blue packs from the A1G era. The first one
was the little metalic blue one with the speed control and reverse switch
on the side. This is probably the one to which you are referring.

The other one has a metal black housing with a lighter blue plastic cover.
The speed control and reverse switch are on the top on this one. This same
pack, colored gold, was used by Aurora in some of their postage stamp train
sets.

Of course, neither of these packs will be as good as an MRC pack (I did the
same as you back then and bought an MRC 500N Golden Throttle Pack, a
wonderful pack built like the proverbial tank) but I wouldn't hesitate to buy one,
especially if you wish to build a historic layout wth original Atlas
Components.

Regards,
Doug


Atlas power packs

goldrod_1
 

Can anyone tell me if the Atlas power packs (the small blue ones) were any good? I am thinking off building a layout from out of the old Atlas plan book with Atlas track and switchs from that time. At that time I never used the Altas power packs always used MRC ones. Thanks for any help and input.

Michael Bishop


Re: AiG accumulation

ddd_67735
 

Well, I have a complete set of a1g cars except two..I have never found #2287 b with the 41677 road #..I have bought over 20 of these and never found this #.. I have never been able to find 2435 c yellow bay window caboose..If someone has either of these that might be extra I would be interested in buying or trading some cars, as I have a bunch of extra a1g cars..Thanks Don


Re: A1G accumulation

 

Robert,

If it's any consolation at all, I have never been able to find a Reading
flat car with all of the stakes. I think mine has about five of them left. :^(

But yeah, as George said, make sure they say "ATLAS" on the bottom of the
actual car.

And congratulations on what you have accumulated so far!

Doug


Re: A1G accumulation

RobertParsons
 

George,
You are correct the Reading car offered is the Rivarossi version. My
search continues and my elation has been tempered. Somewhere someone
has one that will show up . Close but no cigar.
Robert
--- In a1g@..., George Irwin <gji@...> wrote:

Robert, thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you are enjoying the
pursuit of the A1G series.

One caveat though: if this is important to you, make sure that the
cars being offered are actual Atlas and not the later Rivarossi-branded
imports. According to "The Collector's Guide to N Scale" all three of
these cars were later branded with the Rivarossi name. I believe that
at least the CNJ and the B&M cars were later offered by Arnold in their
branded sets.

Cheers,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: RobertParsons pars3399@...
Sent: Sep 27, 2009 4:04 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: [a1g] AiG accumulation

I have been searching for ten months for a complete set of A1G cars.
One car #2374 Reading Flatcar has never shown up in any search. I have
been to train shows, hobby shops, the internet, and ebay to no avail.
This past week I did a Bing and up popped a website in Connecticut. Not
only did they have the Reading car they had eighteen of them. They also
had ten #2372 Boston & Maine flatcars and nineteen #2403 Central New
Jersey gondolas.

It looked like someone in the Northeast tried to corner the market on
these cars. This could very well be the largest inventory of these cars
anywhere.

I am truly excited. When I think that my grandkids will someday have
something unique in their train collection I can not think of anything
more pleasing.

Thanks go out to George for putting together the A1G website with all
of its information. It has been a lot of fun.
Robert Parsons


Re: A1G accumulation

George Irwin
 

Robert, thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you are enjoying the pursuit of the A1G series.

One caveat though: if this is important to you, make sure that the cars being offered are actual Atlas and not the later Rivarossi-branded imports. According to "The Collector's Guide to N Scale" all three of these cars were later branded with the Rivarossi name. I believe that at least the CNJ and the B&M cars were later offered by Arnold in their branded sets.

Cheers,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: RobertParsons <pars3399@...>
Sent: Sep 27, 2009 4:04 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: [a1g] AiG accumulation

I have been searching for ten months for a complete set of A1G cars. One car #2374 Reading Flatcar has never shown up in any search. I have been to train shows, hobby shops, the internet, and ebay to no avail. This past week I did a Bing and up popped a website in Connecticut. Not only did they have the Reading car they had eighteen of them. They also had ten #2372 Boston & Maine flatcars and nineteen #2403 Central New Jersey gondolas.

It looked like someone in the Northeast tried to corner the market on these cars. This could very well be the largest inventory of these cars anywhere.

I am truly excited. When I think that my grandkids will someday have something unique in their train collection I can not think of anything more pleasing.

Thanks go out to George for putting together the A1G website with all of its information. It has been a lot of fun.
Robert Parsons


Re: AiG accumulation

RobertParsons
 

In my excitement I forgot to mention my collection of A1G cars is
complete.
Robert Parsons
--- In a1g@..., "RobertParsons" <pars3399@...> wrote:

I have been searching for ten months for a complete set of A1G cars.
One car #2374 Reading Flatcar has never shown up in any search. I have
been to train shows, hobby shops, the internet, and ebay to no avail.
This past week I did a Bing and up popped a website in Connecticut. Not
only did they have the Reading car they had eighteen of them. They also
had ten #2372 Boston & Maine flatcars and nineteen #2403 Central New
Jersey gondolas.

It looked like someone in the Northeast tried to corner the market on
these cars. This could very well be the largest inventory of these cars
anywhere.

I am truly excited. When I think that my grandkids will someday have
something unique in their train collection I can not think of anything
more pleasing.

Thanks go out to George for putting together the A1G website with all
of its information. It has been a lot of fun.
Robert Parsons


AiG accumulation

RobertParsons
 

I have been searching for ten months for a complete set of A1G cars. One car #2374 Reading Flatcar has never shown up in any search. I have been to train shows, hobby shops, the internet, and ebay to no avail. This past week I did a Bing and up popped a website in Connecticut. Not only did they have the Reading car they had eighteen of them. They also had ten #2372 Boston & Maine flatcars and nineteen #2403 Central New Jersey gondolas.

It looked like someone in the Northeast tried to corner the market on these cars. This could very well be the largest inventory of these cars anywhere.

I am truly excited. When I think that my grandkids will someday have something unique in their train collection I can not think of anything more pleasing.

Thanks go out to George for putting together the A1G website with all of its information. It has been a lot of fun.
Robert Parsons


A1G WHEEL SETS

goldrod_1
 

When did Atlas change from the blacken wheel set sets to the bare metal ones? I just picked up the #2391 and # 2397 reefers,the 2391 has the bare metal and the 2397 has the blacken wheels. Like the ones George has on his web site A1G, they also have the wheels that match the ones I have. The insert label has a 10_1968 date printed on it. Something I never had noticed before, Atlas listed European equipment along with their American line of trains.

Michael Bishop


Re: The Collector's Guide to N Scale

 

GAM Publishing was indeed Greg Mummert; those were his initials. I knew
both him and Barry and the book was a collaborative effort. Greg had
quite a collection of N-Scale at one time. He also ran a local hobby
shop, Paul's Model Trains in New Oxford, PA, for a number of years. I
purchased most of my very early Kadee cars (pre-MicroTrains) from him
when he was getting out of trains and going into printing full-time. I
keyed the entire book into my own database and have added most
production since then, as well. It has gotten to be quite a large
database. Last year I found a brand new copy of the book at a hobby
shop in Roanoke and promptly snatched it up. The "Collector's" book is
now itself a collector's item.

Mike Brown

George Irwin wrote:



Wingard makes no mention of "A1G" because the term didn't yet exist...
it was your faithful webmaster who came up with that contribution to N
Scale Terminology. Occassionally I see it, most often in connection
with forum postings or eBay listings (with which I am not affiliated,
and I suspect the rest of you aren't either). I wouldn't say that the
acronym has taken the model railroading world by storm. (But then,
neither has "UMTRR"...)

You're right about the listings in the book-- the "second generation"
of Atlas cars, made in the USA, was already underway when Wingard
published "A Collector's Guide to N Scale." The listings are by
catalog number which mixes the A2G rolling stock right along with the
A1G items.

I consider the 94 foot "whale belly" tank cars to be the last of the
First Generation and the beer can tank car to be the first of the
Second Generation... and how's that for the 'long and short' of it.

While I agree that the publisher is no longer in business, I would
want to stay on the safe side of copyright law with respect to
scanning and posting pages directly from the book. The N Scale
Collector no doubt received permission from Barry Wingard (who was
still with us at the time) to reprint the Atlas section of the book. I
imagine that consent would have to be sought from Barry's widow or
whoever now owns the rights to the publication. That might actually be
Gregory Mummert who is listed as being "of GAM Publishing." I'll wager
he <was> GAM Publishing. It's noted that Mummert had written "a guide
on a much smaller scale" previous to Wingard's effort. A quick web
search revealed what looks like at least a few different people by
that name-- I'll leave it to another gang member to take that farther
if desired.

The good news is that no copyrights were harmed in the construction of
the A1G site, as the photos are mine except where noted (as are the
cars) and compilations of catalog numbers are a lot harder to slap
that "circle C" onto than, say, a bit of prose or a poem.

Just to make searching more difficult, by the way, there is no obvious
ISBN (International Standard Book Number, if I remember my acronyms
correctly) published anywhere in the book.

Cheers,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: RobertP <pars3399@... <mailto:pars3399%40yahoo.com>>
Sent: Sep 23, 2009 2:49 PM
To: a1g@... <mailto:a1g%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [a1g] Re: The Collector's Guide to N Scale

George,
I recently found Wingards book at Abebooks for $40.00. In reading
Barry's listings he makes no mention of A1G. In the Atlas listing he
shows freight cars #2450 Ore cars, #2460 Beer Can, and #2490 50' Reefers
and 50' Double door Stockcars in sequence with the #3000-#3130 cars. I
believe you would feel these to be second generation cars.
I had thought of scanning the 20 Atlas pages to make available to A1G
members., but I probably would run afoul of copyright infringement.
However, I am not sure the printer GAM is in business today.
Robert Parsons


Re: The Collector's Guide to N Scale

George Irwin
 

Wingard makes no mention of "A1G" because the term didn't yet exist... it was your faithful webmaster who came up with that contribution to N Scale Terminology. Occassionally I see it, most often in connection with forum postings or eBay listings (with which I am not affiliated, and I suspect the rest of you aren't either). I wouldn't say that the acronym has taken the model railroading world by storm. (But then, neither has "UMTRR"...)

You're right about the listings in the book-- the "second generation" of Atlas cars, made in the USA, was already underway when Wingard published "A Collector's Guide to N Scale." The listings are by catalog number which mixes the A2G rolling stock right along with the A1G items.

I consider the 94 foot "whale belly" tank cars to be the last of the First Generation and the beer can tank car to be the first of the Second Generation... and how's that for the 'long and short' of it.

While I agree that the publisher is no longer in business, I would want to stay on the safe side of copyright law with respect to scanning and posting pages directly from the book. The N Scale Collector no doubt received permission from Barry Wingard (who was still with us at the time) to reprint the Atlas section of the book. I imagine that consent would have to be sought from Barry's widow or whoever now owns the rights to the publication. That might actually be Gregory Mummert who is listed as being "of GAM Publishing." I'll wager he <was> GAM Publishing. It's noted that Mummert had written "a guide on a much smaller scale" previous to Wingard's effort. A quick web search revealed what looks like at least a few different people by that name-- I'll leave it to another gang member to take that farther if desired.

The good news is that no copyrights were harmed in the construction of the A1G site, as the photos are mine except where noted (as are the cars) and compilations of catalog numbers are a lot harder to slap that "circle C" onto than, say, a bit of prose or a poem.

Just to make searching more difficult, by the way, there is no obvious ISBN (International Standard Book Number, if I remember my acronyms correctly) published anywhere in the book.

Cheers,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: RobertP <pars3399@...>
Sent: Sep 23, 2009 2:49 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: [a1g] Re: The Collector's Guide to N Scale

George,
I recently found Wingards book at Abebooks for $40.00. In reading
Barry's listings he makes no mention of A1G. In the Atlas listing he
shows freight cars #2450 Ore cars, #2460 Beer Can, and #2490 50' Reefers
and 50' Double door Stockcars in sequence with the #3000-#3130 cars. I
believe you would feel these to be second generation cars.
I had thought of scanning the 20 Atlas pages to make available to A1G
members., but I probably would run afoul of copyright infringement.
However, I am not sure the printer GAM is in business today.
Robert Parsons


Re: The Collector's Guide to N Scale

RobertP
 

George,
I recently found Wingards book at Abebooks for $40.00. In reading
Barry's listings he makes no mention of A1G. In the Atlas listing he
shows freight cars #2450 Ore cars, #2460 Beer Can, and #2490 50' Reefers
and 50' Double door Stockcars in sequence with the #3000-#3130 cars. I
believe you would feel these to be second generation cars.
I had thought of scanning the 20 Atlas pages to make available to A1G
members., but I probably would run afoul of copyright infringement.
However, I am not sure the printer GAM is in business today.
Robert Parsons
--- In a1g@..., George Irwin <gji@...> wrote:

"The Collectors Guide to N Scale" by the late Barry Wingard is a
softcover book that was published back in 1984. Unfortunately it's a
pretty tough book to find. I don't think there was a very large press
run.

I can't remember where I located mine but it was years ago; possibly
before I moved up here. The best bet is to look around swap meets and
such, and maybe used bookseller sites. I don't recall ever seeing one
on eBay.

The N Scale Collector reprinted the Atlas pages from the book as a
supplement to one of their regular magazine issues, thus providing the
A1G series information to a wider audience. However, that also was some
years ago, maybe ten or more (I'm not good with magazine dates without a
reference source).

The scarcity of this book is one reason I put together the A1G site;
Barry's work is a key source of data for it.

Cheers,
George


-----Original Message-----
From: michael bishop goldrod_1@...
Sent: Sep 22, 2009 9:12 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: Re: [a1g] Re: Atlas Hormel reefer?

Thank you for the info, George. The book that you have with the N
scale info, where can one get one at?
Â
Michael Bishop



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Re: The Collector's Guide to N Scale

George Irwin
 

"The Collectors Guide to N Scale" by the late Barry Wingard is a softcover book that was published back in 1984. Unfortunately it's a pretty tough book to find. I don't think there was a very large press run.

I can't remember where I located mine but it was years ago; possibly before I moved up here. The best bet is to look around swap meets and such, and maybe used bookseller sites. I don't recall ever seeing one on eBay.

The N Scale Collector reprinted the Atlas pages from the book as a supplement to one of their regular magazine issues, thus providing the A1G series information to a wider audience. However, that also was some years ago, maybe ten or more (I'm not good with magazine dates without a reference source).

The scarcity of this book is one reason I put together the A1G site; Barry's work is a key source of data for it.

Cheers,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: michael bishop <goldrod_1@...>
Sent: Sep 22, 2009 9:12 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: Re: [a1g] Re: Atlas Hormel reefer?

Thank you for the info, George. The book that you have with the N scale info, where can one get one at?

Michael Bishop



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Re: Atlas Hormel reefer?

michael bishop
 

Thank you for the info, George. The book that you have with the N scale info, where can one get one at?

Michael Bishop



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Re: Atlas Hormel reefer?

George Irwin
 

"The Collector's Guide to N Scale" only shows a Carnation Milk on the 40 foot refrigerator car body style marketed by MRC.

There is a Hormel refrigerator car in the Minitrix/Aurora listing in the same book, catalog number 3247 as a Minitrix Car and catalog 4885 as an Aurora "Postage Stamp" car, but the car is listed as having red lettering, not black.

However... in the same listing, it's pointed out that their Carnation Milk refrigerator car was issued in with black lettering and with red lettering. So I suppose it's possible that this Hormel car is an undocumented exception.

It's definitely not an A1G car though. A couple of the lot were not Atlas cars if I recall correctly from the eBay listing.

Cheers,
George

-----Original Message-----
From: goldrod_1 <goldrod_1@...>
Sent: Sep 22, 2009 8:37 PM
To: a1g@...
Subject: [a1g] Re: Atlas Hormel reefer?

I contacted the Seller of this car, but have not received any info as of yet from him. I wonder if this might be an old MRC freight car. They had a small line of freight cars (Hopper, Three Dome Tank Car, Reefer and Caboose) back in the late 60's. I think that their cars were made by Roco. MRC also had three styles of 50' boxcars by a Japan company which was making cars for Con Cor. I think that those car as still available from Con Cor. Does anyone have am list of the MRC cars.

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Re: Atlas Hormel reefer?

goldrod_1
 

I contacted the Seller of this car, but have not received any info as of yet from him. I wonder if this might be an old MRC freight car. They had a small line of freight cars (Hopper, Three Dome Tank Car, Reefer and Caboose) back in the late 60's. I think that their cars were made by Roco. MRC also had three styles of 50' boxcars by a Japan company which was making cars for Con Cor. I think that those car as still available from Con Cor. Does anyone have am list of the MRC cars.

Michael Bishop


Re: Atlas Hormel reefer?

TMeserole
 

Aurora Postage Stamp Trains also did a Hormel reefer.

goldrod_1 wrote:

In cursing E Bay tonight I found someone selling some Atlas N scale cars which is not new, but one of the cars for sell is a Hormel Meat Reefer. This is not the one Trix had for sell. Did Atlas do a Hormel car? Thanks for any help.
Michael Bishop

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