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Re: Really, really 'first generation'...sort of...

learmoia
 

The thread refers to items advertised 1947.

~Ian


On Sun, May 26, 2019, 22:32 NYCAP Email <tom39@...> wrote:
The photo which learmoia shows a ATLAS ho-SCALE switch not a ATLAS a1g N-SCALE switch.?

Tom


On May 26, 2019, at 22:04, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:

Link to a photo of an early Atlas switch.. these predate anything from snap trak line.. and Brass rail!




On Sun, May 26, 2019, 20:31 Douglas Gosha via Groups.Io <dgosha=[email protected]> wrote:
I imagine they didn't call them "Snap Switches" yet, then. Or did they even have a switch machine attached and were more like the "Custom Line"? of today?

Doug

In a message dated 5/26/2019 5:54:46 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:

Gang,

As you know, I have been perusing the Model Railroader "75 Years" DVD in search of advertisements for, among other things, A1G equipment.

I've also been making my way through the MR issues chronologically.?? And I've come to the December 1947 issue, which contains what I believe to be the first advertisement of any kind from the Atlas Tool Company.?? No, it's not A1G, nor is it N Scale (what do you mean, "off topic"?).? It's an ad for "The Atlas Completely Assembled Turnout" in #4, #6, #8 (!) and WYE configurations.? All except the #8 had a list price of $2.25, the #8 was $2.50.?? Plugging that into the Inflation Calculator, I see that $2.25 is about $24.57 now.? Hmm...

Only about another 20 years or so until I get to a "real" A1G advertisement...

Cheers,
George (your list owner)

Re: Really, really 'first generation'...sort of...

NYCAP Email
 

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The photo which learmoia shows a ATLAS ho-SCALE switch not a ATLAS a1g N-SCALE switch.?

Tom


On May 26, 2019, at 22:04, learmoia <learmoia@...> wrote:

Link to a photo of an early Atlas switch.. these predate anything from snap trak line.. and Brass rail!




On Sun, May 26, 2019, 20:31 Douglas Gosha via Groups.Io <dgosha=[email protected]> wrote:
I imagine they didn't call them "Snap Switches" yet, then. Or did they even have a switch machine attached and were more like the "Custom Line"? of today?

Doug

In a message dated 5/26/2019 5:54:46 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:

Gang,

As you know, I have been perusing the Model Railroader "75 Years" DVD in search of advertisements for, among other things, A1G equipment.

I've also been making my way through the MR issues chronologically.?? And I've come to the December 1947 issue, which contains what I believe to be the first advertisement of any kind from the Atlas Tool Company.?? No, it's not A1G, nor is it N Scale (what do you mean, "off topic"?).? It's an ad for "The Atlas Completely Assembled Turnout" in #4, #6, #8 (!) and WYE configurations.? All except the #8 had a list price of $2.25, the #8 was $2.50.?? Plugging that into the Inflation Calculator, I see that $2.25 is about $24.57 now.? Hmm...

Only about another 20 years or so until I get to a "real" A1G advertisement...

Cheers,
George (your list owner)

Re: Really, really 'first generation'...sort of...

 

Thanks for the link. I still have the switches my older brother had on his layout in the early sixties. They are snap switches in the same style box with brass rails.

He also had one piece of flex track with fiber ties. When we ballasted it, the ties warped, the gauge narrowed, and we had to put nails at the end of the ties to flatten the ties and restore the gauge.

Doug

In a message dated 5/26/2019 9:05:12 PM Central Standard Time, learmoia@... writes:

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Re: Really, really 'first generation'...sort of...

learmoia
 

Link to a photo of an early Atlas switch.. these predate anything from snap trak line.. and Brass rail!




On Sun, May 26, 2019, 20:31 Douglas Gosha via Groups.Io <dgosha=[email protected]> wrote:
I imagine they didn't call them "Snap Switches" yet, then. Or did they even have a switch machine attached and were more like the "Custom Line"? of today?

Doug

In a message dated 5/26/2019 5:54:46 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:

Gang,

As you know, I have been perusing the Model Railroader "75 Years" DVD in search of advertisements for, among other things, A1G equipment.

I've also been making my way through the MR issues chronologically.?? And I've come to the December 1947 issue, which contains what I believe to be the first advertisement of any kind from the Atlas Tool Company.?? No, it's not A1G, nor is it N Scale (what do you mean, "off topic"?).? It's an ad for "The Atlas Completely Assembled Turnout" in #4, #6, #8 (!) and WYE configurations.? All except the #8 had a list price of $2.25, the #8 was $2.50.?? Plugging that into the Inflation Calculator, I see that $2.25 is about $24.57 now.? Hmm...

Only about another 20 years or so until I get to a "real" A1G advertisement...

Cheers,
George (your list owner)

Re: Really, really 'first generation'...sort of...

 

I imagine they didn't call them "Snap Switches" yet, then. Or did they even have a switch machine attached and were more like the "Custom Line"? of today?

Doug

In a message dated 5/26/2019 5:54:46 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:

Gang,

As you know, I have been perusing the Model Railroader "75 Years" DVD in search of advertisements for, among other things, A1G equipment.

I've also been making my way through the MR issues chronologically.?? And I've come to the December 1947 issue, which contains what I believe to be the first advertisement of any kind from the Atlas Tool Company.?? No, it's not A1G, nor is it N Scale (what do you mean, "off topic"?).? It's an ad for "The Atlas Completely Assembled Turnout" in #4, #6, #8 (!) and WYE configurations.? All except the #8 had a list price of $2.25, the #8 was $2.50.?? Plugging that into the Inflation Calculator, I see that $2.25 is about $24.57 now.? Hmm...

Only about another 20 years or so until I get to a "real" A1G advertisement...

Cheers,
George (your list owner)

Really, really 'first generation'...sort of...

 

Gang,

As you know, I have been perusing the Model Railroader "75 Years" DVD in search of advertisements for, among other things, A1G equipment.

I've also been making my way through the MR issues chronologically.?? And I've come to the December 1947 issue, which contains what I believe to be the first advertisement of any kind from the Atlas Tool Company.?? No, it's not A1G, nor is it N Scale (what do you mean, "off topic"?).? It's an ad for "The Atlas Completely Assembled Turnout" in #4, #6, #8 (!) and WYE configurations.? All except the #8 had a list price of $2.25, the #8 was $2.50.?? Plugging that into the Inflation Calculator, I see that $2.25 is about $24.57 now.? Hmm...

Only about another 20 years or so until I get to a "real" A1G advertisement...

Cheers,
George (your list owner)
Atlas Rivarossi FM "C" 2121

Marty Tressell
 

I found the information on the Atlas Rivarossi Locomotives very helpful when I began to purchase a number of them to repair for an N scale I was planning to build.? The information was so very detailed and i got engrossed in the process and collected a number of them along with parts.? As we know live changes and things happened and I have decided not to build a layout.?

I have read many email and know there this is a group that appreciates these early Atlas products and although this isn't a? "Selling" site I felt I would offer the lot of them to someone who is interested at a very reasonable cost.? They are in various states of condition and some run some not...I have a picture of the lot if you are interested please correspond with me directly at mtressell@plateautel,net so we don't take up others time!?

Again thank you for the great information on these early Atlas N Scale units...ah if I was only 10 years younger!

Sincerely

Marty Tressell
Clovis, NM USA
Re: Model Railroader September 1970: 94 Foot Tank Car Review

igoldberg1
 

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Here is a link to information on th eGATX 96 Foot tank car.? It is on page 3. http://www.railgoat.railfan.net/railwhales/

??? Ira

On April 22, 2019 at 7:30 PM "G.J. Irwin" <groups@...> wrote:

With the April UMTRR out the door, I'm back to my occasional search for that second run of the Vinegar Tank Car that we discussed here a few weeks ago.

And instead, I came across the "Trade Topics" review of the A1G 94 Foot Tank Car on Page 12 of the September 1970 issue of Model Railroader.? (I have the DVD of the 1934-2009 collection.)? The review mentions "prototypes" when only one was built.? And of course no discussion that there was only one prototypical paint scheme, GATX, because there was only one car!

MR wrote, "The cars will actually negotiate curves of 7.5" (19-cm.) radius, although they look more at home on greater radii."? Hmm, maybe I should dig out that Minitrix track I have around here somewhere... It's also noted that the car weighed one and one-quarter ounces.? There's a prototype photo accompanying the article as well as a photo collage of all four models (GATX, Citgo, Texaco, Wanda Petroleum).

This release is what I call the last of the A1G line.? And with that find, or perhaps I should say rediscovery, I can tag 1970 as the release year for these items.? As another reference, Bachmann had just introduced their N Scale Metroliner model--only in Penn Central! No Amtrak until the next year.

Cheers,
George
Model Railroader September 1970: 94 Foot Tank Car Review

 

With the April UMTRR out the door, I'm back to my occasional search for that second run of the Vinegar Tank Car that we discussed here a few weeks ago.

And instead, I came across the "Trade Topics" review of the A1G 94 Foot Tank Car on Page 12 of the September 1970 issue of Model Railroader.? (I have the DVD of the 1934-2009 collection.)? The review mentions "prototypes" when only one was built.? And of course no discussion that there was only one prototypical paint scheme, GATX, because there was only one car!

MR wrote, "The cars will actually negotiate curves of 7.5" (19-cm.) radius, although they look more at home on greater radii."? Hmm, maybe I should dig out that Minitrix track I have around here somewhere... It's also noted that the car weighed one and one-quarter ounces.? There's a prototype photo accompanying the article as well as a photo collage of all four models (GATX, Citgo, Texaco, Wanda Petroleum).

This release is what I call the last of the A1G line.? And with that find, or perhaps I should say rediscovery, I can tag 1970 as the release year for these items.? As another reference, Bachmann had just introduced their N Scale Metroliner model--only in Penn Central! No Amtrak until the next year.

Cheers,
George
Re: a1g cars

igoldberg1
 

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Dave:

? That is fine,?? Please send me the total with shipping and your address and I will get a check out to you.? My address is .

???? Ira Goldberg

???? 531 Grant Drive

??? Gettysburg, PA 17325


??? Regards

?????? Ira

On March 31, 2019 at 10:25 PM "ddd_67735 via Groups.Io" <ddd_67735@...> wrote:

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Hi
These have been in boxes for years. There is a little rust on coupler covers, and axles. Hope you can see it in the pictures.
I will take $40 for the 3 cars plus shipping.
Thanks
From: igoldberg1 <igoldberg1@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] a1g cars

Besides the 2 helium tank cars, I am interested in the Atlas 3121, NP 84200 "Pig Palace" car.? What do you wnat for all 3?

??? Regards
?????? Ira
On March 29, 2019 at 6:45 PM "ddd_67735 via Groups.Io" <ddd_67735@...> wrote:

I have at least one of everything, except the 94' tank cars. I already sold them.


From: learmoia <learmoia@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] a1g cars

What do you have.. (learmoia at )

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 17:23 ddd_67735 via Groups.Io <ddd_67735= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Group
I have lots of a1g cars. I will be moving, and can't take them with me. If your looking for any of them let me know. Will deal with you on one or more. Most are new.
THANKS
?
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Re: a1g cars

ddd_67735
 


Hi
These have been in boxes for years. There is a little rust on coupler covers, and axles. Hope you can see it in the pictures.
I will take $40 for the 3 cars plus shipping.
Thanks

From: igoldberg1 <igoldberg1@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] a1g cars

Besides the 2 helium tank cars, I am interested in the Atlas 3121, NP 84200 "Pig Palace" car.? What do you wnat for all 3?

??? Regards
?????? Ira
On March 29, 2019 at 6:45 PM "ddd_67735 via Groups.Io" <ddd_67735@...> wrote:

I have at least one of everything, except the 94' tank cars. I already sold them.


From: learmoia <learmoia@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] a1g cars

What do you have.. (learmoia at )

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 17:23 ddd_67735 via Groups.Io <ddd_67735= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Group
I have lots of a1g cars. I will be moving, and can't take them with me. If your looking for any of them let me know. Will deal with you on one or more. Most are new.
THANKS
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Re: (Admin) Replying directly to sender instead of the list

dave w
 

On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 07:27 AM, G.J. Irwin wrote:
(Ask me how I know this... fortunately, from another group on io... )

Cheers,
George
<RantOn> Yes I posted it a couple of times on groups that had tons of ol' f**ts 'me too' etc, going on. Then one populist OF promoter of all things himself did the same on his groups a day later, without any acknowledgement, as if enlightenment came to him alone___? "-"
Bittered Twister pleez... dave
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Re: (Admin) Replying directly to sender instead of the list

igoldberg1
 

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Thank you, appreciate the reply.


???? Regards

??????? Ira

On March 31, 2019 at 6:55 PM "ddd_67735 via Groups.Io" <ddd_67735@...> wrote:

I will get these found and let you know

?

On Mar 31, 2019, at 1:56 PM, igoldberg1 < igoldberg1@...> wrote:

George:

? I have sent him two messages (to sender Only) and have not received any replies.? I added another car that I am interested in and have heard back as of this message to you.


???? Regards

??????? Ira

On March 31, 2019 at 2:27 PM "G.J. Irwin" < groups@...> wrote:

Just thought I would pass along this rather non-obvious way to reply to someone directly instead of to the entire list.? (Like, for interest in buying things.)

If you reply online via the site, and click the "Private" button to the bottom right of the text box in which you type, the reply should go to sender and not to the list.

(Ask me how I know this... fortunately, from another group on io... )

Cheers,
George


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Re: (Admin) Replying directly to sender instead of the list

ddd_67735
 

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I will get these found and let you know


On Mar 31, 2019, at 1:56 PM, igoldberg1 <igoldberg1@...> wrote:

George:

? I have sent him two messages (to sender Only) and have not received any replies.? I added another car that I am interested in and have heard back as of this message to you.


???? Regards

??????? Ira

On March 31, 2019 at 2:27 PM "G.J. Irwin" <groups@...> wrote:

Just thought I would pass along this rather non-obvious way to reply to someone directly instead of to the entire list.? (Like, for interest in buying things.)

If you reply online via the site, and click the "Private" button to the bottom right of the text box in which you type, the reply should go to sender and not to the list.

(Ask me how I know this... fortunately, from another group on io... )

Cheers,
George
Re: (Admin) Replying directly to sender instead of the list

igoldberg1
 

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George:

? I have sent him two messages (to sender Only) and have not received any replies.? I added another car that I am interested in and have heard back as of this message to you.


???? Regards

??????? Ira

On March 31, 2019 at 2:27 PM "G.J. Irwin" <groups@...> wrote:

Just thought I would pass along this rather non-obvious way to reply to someone directly instead of to the entire list.? (Like, for interest in buying things.)

If you reply online via the groups.io site, and click the "Private" button to the bottom right of the text box in which you type, the reply should go to sender and not to the list.

(Ask me how I know this... fortunately, from another group on io... )

Cheers,
George
Re: Paul is fine...

 

That's great to hear! Thanks, George

Doug

In a message dated 3/31/2019 1:24:53 PM Central Standard Time, groups@... writes:

Doug noted (since he's a moderator) that Paul Dickash left this group.

I ran into him today at a local train show.? I told him we were worried about him. All is well... e-mail issues.? I gave him my e-mail and he'll be back on as soon as he can.

Cheers,
George

(Admin) Replying directly to sender instead of the list

 

Just thought I would pass along this rather non-obvious way to reply to someone directly instead of to the entire list.? (Like, for interest in buying things.)

If you reply online via the groups.io site, and click the "Private" button to the bottom right of the text box in which you type, the reply should go to sender and not to the list.

(Ask me how I know this... fortunately, from another group on io... )

Cheers,
George
Re: a1g cars

igoldberg1
 

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Besides the 2 helium tank cars, I am interested in the Atlas 3121, NP 84200 "Pig Palace" car.? What do you wnat for all 3?


??? Regards

?????? Ira

On March 29, 2019 at 6:45 PM "ddd_67735 via Groups.Io" <ddd_67735@...> wrote:

I have at least one of everything, except the 94' tank cars. I already sold them.


From: learmoia <learmoia@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] a1g cars

What do you have.. (learmoia at )

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 17:23 ddd_67735 via Groups.Io <ddd_67735= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Group
I have lots of a1g cars. I will be moving, and can't take them with me. If your looking for any of them let me know. Will deal with you on one or more. Most are new.
THANKS
?
?
Paul is fine...

 

Doug noted (since he's a moderator) that Paul Dickash left this group.

I ran into him today at a local train show.? I told him we were worried about him. All is well... e-mail issues.? I gave him my e-mail and he'll be back on as soon as he can.

Cheers,
George
Re: a1g cars

igoldberg1
 

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Hello:

? How much would you want for the Atlas 3032 USNX 1019 US NAVY and 3033 USQX US ARMY AIR SERVICE helium tank cars?

??? Thanks In Advance

????? Ira Goldberg

On March 29, 2019 at 6:45 PM "ddd_67735 via Groups.Io" <ddd_67735@...> wrote:

I have at least one of everything, except the 94' tank cars. I already sold them.


From: learmoia <learmoia@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2019 4:34 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] a1g cars

What do you have.. (learmoia at )

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 17:23 ddd_67735 via Groups.Io <ddd_67735= [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Group
I have lots of a1g cars. I will be moving, and can't take them with me. If your looking for any of them let me know. Will deal with you on one or more. Most are new.
THANKS
?
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