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In a message dated 8/3/2013 14:49:59 Central Daylight Time,
goldrod_1@... writes:

I have bought several Atlas cars and the case does not have the paper
insert but a printed stick on label with the part number car name and type of
car. Was this something Atlas did or some else?

Michael Bishop





Those are the very early RoCo cars and they are Atlas. These lasted until
early 1968 (maybe even as early as late 1967) when Atlas began using the
paper inserts. First with the car info on one end only and then both ends.

There should also be clear plastic spacers to hold the car into position in
the box present.

I think there are some pictures of these in the photo section of the Yahoo
N scale group.

Doug

It is probably a custom special run done for some group.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 2:49 PM, MIKE <goldrod_1@...> wrote:

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I have bought several Atlas cars and the case does not have the paper
insert but a printed stick on label with the part number car name and type
of car. Was this something Atlas did or some else?

Michael Bishop

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I have bought several Atlas cars and the case does not have the paper insert but a printed stick on label with the part number car name and type of car. Was this something Atlas did or some else?

Michael Bishop

The red ends and top was the first released. Black ends and top was later
but only by about a year or so.

Doug

Atlas,

Has done 6 different Blatz beer cars:
The original cars were product number 2224 and came out in the late 1960s.
Both of those two had road number 27107 and were plug door steel reefers.
I do not know which came first. Yes, one had red ends and roof and the
other
one had black ends and roof.

Then starting in 2002, Atlas release 2 more Blatz cars and these were hinge
door wood ice reefers.
In 2009 they released another 2 hinge door wood ice reefers labeled for
Blatz.
These last 4 cars all have unique road numbers.

Tom in Kansas
Whose wife collects beer cars

Of the two Blatz Beer cats that Atlas had; which one came out first,
the black roof and ends or the red roof and ends? Thanks for any help.

Michael Bishop

I have up loaded a photo of a KO&G match cover that has a picture of the paint scheme that Atlas used of their 40' car. The real car is that of 50' car, but is proof that the paint scheme was real. The photo is in the "Atlas Art folder".

Michael Bishop

The following URL is of a Wabash gondola which looks very close to the Atlas gondola. I have been trying to hunt down the prototype of the cars that Atlas offered.



Michael Bishop

Poss,
iF this link doesn't connect, copy & paste it to your address bar to see picture..





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From: poss2010 <1z2z-369@...>
To: a1g@...
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: [a1g] Re: Helium Tank car



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Michael
I can not find the helium tank car photo. Any help?

--- In a1g@..., "MIKE" <goldrod_1@...> wrote:

I have up loaded a photo of an actual Helium Tank car either being load or unloaded. There has been some discussion on some of the modeler groups about these cars lately. I thought it might be of some interest to the group if you are using one of these cars.

Michael Bishop

Sorry, I forgot to mention that the photo?location is in the?Photo Section? "Atlas Art".
Michael Bishop


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From: poss2010 <1z2z-369@...>
To: a1g@...
Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 3:40 PM
Subject: [a1g] Re: Helium Tank car

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Michael
I can not find the helium tank car photo. Any help?

--- In mailto:a1g%40yahoogroups.com, "MIKE" <goldrod_1@...> wrote:

I have up loaded a photo of an actual Helium Tank car either being load or unloaded. There has been some discussion on some of the modeler groups about these cars lately. I thought it might be of some interest to the group if you are using one of these cars.

Michael Bishop

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Michael
I can not find the helium tank car photo. Any help?

I have up loaded a photo of an actual Helium Tank car either being load or unloaded. There has been some discussion on some of the modeler groups about these cars lately. I thought it might be of some interest to the group if you are using one of these cars.

Michael Bishop

Awesome! I never new that!

Mark

The following URL is for a photo of the GT caboose which was the inspiration for the Atlas/Roco (Austria) Standard Steel-Sided Caboose w/ Offset Cupola.





Michael Bishop

Oh, and yes, the last four cars of the series are completely different and were made by Rivarossi, as Michael said.

Doug

My Gulf car is like Michael's, it has no railings, just the ladders. The other RoCo cars have railings but they are just on the sides and there isn't any platform around the dome.

The position of the brake wheel and shaft on my Gulf car is also different from the others. It's on the left instead of the right with the wheel toward you.

My otherwise identical Life-Like Gulf car has railings and a platform that encircles the dome.

Doug

Bob,
I have not run into a 2262, 2263 or 2264 with out the railings. I know that the 2265 thru 2268 have the full cage around the dome, but these were by Rivarossi. Check out ? in the photos of the tank cars the Gulf does not have railing while others do. Does this mean that there were two styles for both cars? Thanks for the info.
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Michael Bishop?

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From: "1z2z-369@..." <1z2z-369@...>
To: a1g@...
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: [a1g] Roco #2261 Gulf tank car


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Michael,
I just checked my tank cars. Those numbered 2261 thru 2264 have no railing. Numbers 2265 thru 2268 have the railing. After the first four cars they must have decided to add the railing.
Bob Parsons

From: MIKE
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:22 AM
To: mailto:a1g%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: [a1g] Roco #2261 Gulf tank car

In collecting some more cars I have found that there is a style difference between the #2261 Gulf tank car and the other tank cars in the group. On the Gulf car there is no railing around the dome only a ladder up to the dome, on all the other cars in this group from Roco there is a railing.

Michael Bishop

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Michael,
I just checked my tank cars. Those numbered 2261 thru 2264 have no railing. Numbers 2265 thru 2268 have the railing. After the first four cars they must have decided to add the railing.
Bob Parsons

From: MIKE
Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 12:22 AM
To: a1g@...
Subject: [a1g] Roco #2261 Gulf tank car


In collecting some more cars I have found that there is a style difference between the #2261 Gulf tank car and the other tank cars in the group. On the Gulf car there is no railing around the dome only a ladder up to the dome, on all the other cars in this group from Roco there is a railing.

Michael Bishop





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In collecting some more cars I have found that there is a style difference between the #2261 Gulf tank car and the other tank cars in the group. On the Gulf car there is no railing around the dome only a ladder up to the dome, on all the other cars in this group from Roco there is a railing.

Michael Bishop

hi all

i realise this is not an atlas nor first generation but i hope it doesn't stretch the rules too much. please reply to me privately so that the friendship isn't stretched too far.

i am wondering if anyone has one or even two N&W J locos they don't need and would be willing to part with?

i imagine they would be just about inoperable now due to split gears, but i am only after them for the 10mm driving wheels so junk condition is fine. as long as the driving wheels are there and in good nick, nothing else matters.

these locos hailed from 1988, coming in either the bachmann 'white box' of the era or a larger 'limited edition' yellow box with a cover flap.

regards,

benjamin