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Re: Atlas Models [was Why pictures Mike?]
michael bishop
Is the machine shop still available from one of the other companies? With the low doors I had always used it near the roundhouse and engine shop as a machine shop for rebuilding of engine trucks or steam engine drivers. It would be nice to have again, but?with the windows tinted green and a arc welding lighting unit flashing away inside.
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? Michael Bishop --- On Tue, 3/1/11, dgosha@... <dgosha@...> wrote:
From: dgosha@... <dgosha@...> Subject: Re: [a1g] Re: Atlas Models [was Why pictures Mike?] To: a1g@... Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 11:03 AM ? Related to this, I saw a little discussion on the Model Railroader forum occuring a while back about the original Atlas structures and more specifically about the Machine Shop. The guy thought they were Z scale (which hadn't debuted yet at the time of these structures' release) or something other than N because the doors on the machine shop were so small as to not allow an N scale boxcar to enter the building. He didn't stop to think that those doors wouldn't necessarily be for a rail car. They are there for, say, some kind of cart or trailer with supplies on it for the shop to be removed by the little gantry crane in front of the shop. Doug [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Atlas Models [was Why pictures Mike?]
Related to this, I saw a little discussion on the Model Railroader forum
occuring a while back about the original Atlas structures and more specifically about the Machine Shop. The guy thought they were Z scale (which hadn't debuted yet at the time of these structures' release) or something other than N because the doors on the machine shop were so small as to not allow an N scale boxcar to enter the building. He didn't stop to think that those doors wouldn't necessarily be for a rail car. They are there for, say, some kind of cart or trailer with supplies on it for the shop to be removed by the little gantry crane in front of the shop. Doug |
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Re: Atlas Models [was Why pictures Mike?]
Actually, most, if not all, of these models have been continuously produced
through the years. Atlas' early structure kits were manufactured by Pola and Vollmer, mostly Pola and these companies either marketed the kits themselves or other importers marketed them in kit or built-up form. I believe some of them are available to this day. Doug |
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Re: Atlas Models [was Why pictures Mike?]
r1ogrande
either way, they'd be useful models if they ever resurrected them...
I'm not a fan of city-scapes much. dave --- In a1g@..., dgosha@... wrote: ... |
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Re: Why pictures Mike?
I love to see pictures of the old packaging too. Thanks, Mike.
The larger, thicker cardboard boxes were the earlier ones for the buildings. These were from about 1967 - 1969. Then Atlas began to use the thinner cardboard versions and a lot of those were slimmer also. Just a whole different "style." For instance, you can find the L-shaped Engine House in both box versions, the one like in which your Old Time Station is packaged, earlier, of course and the the one like in which your Mainline Station is packaged later. I hope I got the kit names correct. I'm going strictly from memory here but I do have almost all of them. As far as the train sets are concerned, I think the style of the one you picture is the earlier style with the wide border around the contents of the set inside. There were also the ones with different color cardboard backgrounds and the pieces bubble packed on the background. I think these were a little later but I can't say for sure. Atlas may just have used a different style packaging with different sets concurrently. Doug |
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Re: Why pictures Mike?
michael bishop
Sorry,
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My post, a question about?what time period for the different? boxes for the Atlas kits?never got any further than a draft in Word on my computer. ?? ? Michael Bishop --- On Wed, 2/16/11, r1ogrande <nzntrains@...> wrote:
From: r1ogrande <nzntrains@...> Subject: [a1g] Why pictures Mike? To: a1g@... Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2011, 3:09 PM ? goldrod_1 uploaded some pics a week ago but I see no commentary on them. As well as the reason, some much large originals would be nice to see some of the buildings details. Damn I'd by both of those now... (for a proposed layout) and probably create a similar footprint to swap out the stations for era changes... cheers dave |
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Why pictures Mike?
r1ogrande
goldrod_1 uploaded some pics a week ago but I see no commentary on them.
As well as the reason, some much large originals would be nice to see some of the buildings details. Damn I'd by both of those now... (for a proposed layout) and probably create a similar footprint to swap out the stations for era changes... cheers dave |
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Some Atlas Cars 4 Sale
enwhycentral
I have the following Atlas cars for sale, all in their original boxes with inserts. All are in like new condition, never having been run.
2281 SP Bulkhead Flat 2382 CN 40' M. Boxcar 2387 Linde Steel Boxcar 2462 Atlas Chem. 26' Chemical Tank 2463 Dow Chem. 26' Chemical Tank Buy all 5 for $30.00 and get a FREE Atlas Pacemaker boxcar, road #170267 in an MTL case and FREE Shipping via Priority Mail. PayPal only. Thanx! |
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Re: Another 2281 Variation
In a message dated 11/9/10 1:44:41 AM !!!First Boot!!!,
williamsonwv@... writes: Doug,Oops, for stupid! I mistook the brakewheel BRACKET for a brakewheel. Anyway, as I'm sure you know, the car would have been all black with lettering except for the planking which is brown. BTW, this was the most frustrating car I encountered in my quest to obtain all of the A1G cars MIB back in the late nineties.. I won several on eBay and they came with one bulkhead missing or both glued on or part of the load missing (although I think we agreed that RoCo may have put a smaller lumber load with some cars) or both bulkheads without brakewheel brackets. And now yours that's a repaint! I finally gave up. Doug |
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Re: Another 2281 Variation
Doug,
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The car has no brakewheel. But ... I think you're right about the deck and the bulheads. Upon partial disassembly, they appear to have been painted. Mystery solved. And now I can gleefully strip and repaint this model. :-) Thanks! Mark --- On Sun, 11/7/10, dgosha@... <dgosha@...> wrote:
From: dgosha@... <dgosha@...> Subject: Re: [a1g] Another 2281 Variation To: a1g@... Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 8:58 PM ? It would have to be verified that somebody didn't just paint the bulkheads that color and add the brakewheel. These cars came without brakewheels originally. There must be a measure of skepticism applied when encountering an A1G car that is significantly different from general manufacturing processes of the era. Doug [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Another 2281 Variation
It would have to be verified that somebody didn't just paint the bulkheads
that color and add the brakewheel. These cars came without brakewheels originally. There must be a measure of skepticism applied when encountering an A1G car that is significantly different from general manufacturing processes of the era. Doug |
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Re: Another 2281 Variation
Interesting,
I've seen quite a few of those cars but never with colored bulkheads. It's hard to tell from the picture but the color looks similar to the Illinois Central 40' steel DD door variant #2287b. on Georges A1G site. I have that variant color (IC) car plus the proper orange color one. ________________________________ From: Mark <williamsonwv@...> To: a1g@... Sent: Sun, November 7, 2010 1:04:27 PM Subject: [a1g] Another 2281 Variation I stumbled onto this in a "used" train shop - it appears to be yet another variation: Interesting eh? "Tan" bulheads and deck. Gotta love the spartan packaging with the plastic "retainers" (this the "3" on them). Mark [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] |
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Re: Back to the Future: Atlas' New Therm Ice Plug Door Boxcar
Thanks for the info, George.
Alas, my little Therm Ice "reefer" I've had since the early seventies has three of its four corner steps missing. There is paint over the spots where the steps would have been attached, though, so it was molded that way. I have seen quite a few RoCo cars with non-fill where the corner steps are concerned. Just not many with THREE missing! I must not have looked at it too closely when I bought it. It has always been one of my favorite A1G cars. Doug |
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Re: Back to the Future: Atlas' New Therm Ice Plug Door Boxcar
RobertParsons
George,
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I have two Therm Ice cars. One has been painted over a National Dairy Despatch 2222 logo. I have no idea why this was done but you can clearly read the National Dairy lettering showing thru on the Therm Ice car. The two cars have the same silver body color. Robert --- In a1g@..., "umtrr" <gji@...> wrote:
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Back to the Future: Atlas' New Therm Ice Plug Door Boxcar
umtrr
The October 2010 pre-order announcements from Atlas contains one car that is, for us A1G fans, a trip "back to the future."
Catalog numbers 33011 and 33012 are forty foot plug door boxcars painted for "Therm Ice" dry ice. Therm Ice was one of the paint schemes on the A1G forty foot plug door boxcars (Catalog 2223). The artwork shown in the Atlas 4th Quarter 2010 Catalog is similar to that on the A1G release from so many years ago, but as you'd expect the printing will be more complete and much more finely executed. (For example, the "When Empty Return To..." box on the new model is just an outline box on the A1G car.) The new cars will have reporting marks of TICX 8901 and 8907; the A1G car carried TICX 8903. The prototype series was numbered TICX 8900 to 8920 according to the Official Railway Equipment Register for January 1964. The cars were registered to National Car Company. They were less tall than the Atlas model (either one) with an extreme height of 13 feet 10 inches. I do recall seeing a prototype photo somewhere but I can't recall where at this writing. The real Therm Ice dry cars occassionally showed up in the Harismus Cove yard of the Pennsylvania Railroad, not far from my boyhood home in Jersey City. That makes the release "back to the future" for more sentimental reasons than just being a throwback of sorts to A1G. Cheers, George (Your list owner) |
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