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Thanks George. I had forgotten about the entries in Wingard's book. Tom

The ore car story keeps getting better and better... if you equate "more complex" with "better." I had forgotten that Wingard's book "The Collector's Guide to N Scale" does include a section on the

writes: There are several possibilities. It could be that Atlas requested Rivarossi to put "ATLAS USA on the cars" instead of the usual "ATLAS". This is unlikely, though, and I believe these cars were

Geoge, I did not know the possibility of two separate sets may exist!? (Rivarossi & Atlas). These ore cars are so cool and unusual!?I was assuming these were the cars from Rivarossi. I did not know

Randy, the examples of the ore cars I have were not made by Rivarossi, but by Atlas in the USA. To me this is the principal reason why I would exclude the ore car series from the A1G roster. However,

George, If we are to guess if these ore cars are A1G or not, I would say they are A1G. They were made by Rivarossi ?! They surely came before the 2nd generation Atlas stuff ?! I have been looking and

George, Have you ever talk to Paul (at Atlas) about this three car set? Rick ________________________________ To: a1g@... Sent: Fri, April 15, 2011 6:43:03 AM Subject: [a1g] A1G Website:

It's beautiful now. Doug

Another copy, paste, forget to change... However, that can be fixed! Thanks for the heads up. Cheers, George

Looks good George and I hate to be the bearer of bad news but both 2453 links go to the 2453a image. \:^) Doug

I have [finally] gotten to posting a new page on the A1G website discussing the Ore Cars and whether the first four releases (DM&IR aka Missabe, Soo Line, Great Northern and LS&I) should be counted as

I note for the record that an Illuminated Bumper still in the package sold on eBay this week, for the low price of 99 cents plus shipping (which was more than the price!). Considering that the MSRP of

I'm sorry, I erred in one of my previous posts. The Retail price difference in the 50' cars was not $1.21 but was $1.01 as the kit cars were $1.49 instead of $1.29 of the other cars. Doug

writes: Yeah, they were definitely the N scale version of the Athearn HO "Blue Box" kits of the time! It was still a thrill to find them in the hobby shop though. Doug

writes: I have seen some silver wheels discolor but never to the point of turning completely black. They could very well have come with the black wheels. Or somebody along the line could have used

writes: The Atlas car kits originally had plastic wheels which had horrible rolling qualities and I believe they began to supply a pair of trucks with silver metal wheels in them in the later kits

The black plastic wheels supplied with the "One-and-a-Halfth Generation" kits were, how can I say this delicately, not as well formed as we would like. Oftimes there would be "strings" of excess

They're blackened metal, but whether they were that way originally or turned color over time might be an open question. --George

I'm trying hard to remember which had what back then, but I know I had a few cars, including some pieces I acquired USED in the early 1970's that had blackened metal wheels. And nothing other than

Doug& Geoge et all, Those ore cars are surely cool! I have never seen these before. The three pack ore car set are news to me.?The original bumper track package is neat too! Amazing what you can find