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MX645-P16 Adaplu board wiring 5
Dear Friends. Please - I need guidence wiring up my Zimo sound decoder as it is new to me. I have followed the Zimo MX small decoders manual as far as possible but there are still areas that I dont understand. I am in the midst of converting an old LGB 21181 Mogul to DCC with sound. I am using a Zimo MX645-P16 with Adaplu board. So far, I have succesfully connected the motor, speaker and they both worked well. But I am now stuck with the LGB smoke unit which is rated 5V, and the LGB micro bulbs (front light) which is also 5V. Where do I connect the 5V smoke unit on the Adaplu board? Can I use F01 for it? This means connecting the smoke unit to F01 & Low voltage connection? (The F01 has not yet been assigned in the pre-loaded sound in my MX645.) Can I connect the headlight to 'Front Headlight & Low voltage' connection? I want to fit a cab light (LED+resistor). If I wire this to the headlight, the cab light will not come on when the loco is in reverse. How do I wire this up correctly? Thank you for your kind guidence. Warmest regards Daniel
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Reed switch for magnet cam 13
Hi all. I’ve been here before and have successfully installed a magnet cam and reed switch to drive chuff rate on a previous generation MX640 decoder. I now have an MS491 and am struggling. I just need clear instructions, in English not Zimo-speak, on which pads to connect and which CVs to alter please. Any takers? cheers. Paul
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Zimo Software Update 01.30.0700 - it works - eventually 19
Has anybody else loaded the latest software update dated 30th October 2024 as when I did it both the MX 33 and the MX!) loaded fine but nothing happened when I tried to load the MX32. Am I doing something wrong? I just plugged the USB stick (after of course uncompressing the file) into the MX32 and nothing happened at all. David Wright
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Zimo decoder and sound file 3
Hi, I have quite a few European locomotives with Zimo DCC/Sound. They are all great. I want to install a Zimo Sound/DCC decoder in a Roco SNCF 231 E. This is a recent tender drive model. It has an 8 pin decoder plug and not a lot of space in the tender. While I have created my own custom sound files for LokSound decoders and have loaded them myself, I do not have the Zimo hardware to do this. Is there a dealer or someone I can buy a Zimo decoder with the sound file I want already installed on it? Scott H
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MS500 and 6volt micro motor 27
I have to drive a 6volt micro motor with my MS500, and wondered if I have to set any CV's to ensure the decoder can not supply more than this else add components between the motor leads to ensure the decoders motor output cannot exceed 6volts. Clarification would be appreciated, many thanks Simon
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Cam Connections 3
I'd be grateful is someone better at understanding manuals than I apparently am could tell me where the connections for an external chuff cam go on an MS491 decoder. I have been sent a set up done by the loco owner to load a sound project and "get the cam to work". I have so far failed to get it to work and have confused myself further trying to work it out from the manual. Currently its connected to IN3 and Ground whilst the manual makes reference to it being IN2 and IN3 but uses an abreviation I dont recognise. Changing CV268 turns autochuff off but its not getting a cam input. I've got so used to using auto chuff my memory of using a cam is flawed to non existent. Any help gratefully recieved Paul Martin
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MX645 Decoder "Runaway" 3
I have a MX645 installed in a 121. Up to today the loco was running fine. A problem has suddenly appeared. All functions are working as should but on speed step one the the loco runs away, i.e. no slow speed control. I have reset CV8 to eight making no difference. Reprogrammed the address to 3 still runs away. Any suggestion as to what might be the cause and a possible fix. Thanks Mike
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Problems with decoder and laptop sleep 14
I remembered this evening that I hadn’t yet run in one of these locos, so I popped it on the rolling road and set a timer for 30 minutes. When I came back to run it in the opposite direction, it refused to respond to throttle inputs - only functions, sounds and lights would respond - and stuck with the motor/wheels running at 50% throttle. When switching track power off and on again, the decoder played the startup sounds when activating F1, but refused to move or make any accelerating sound, but all the sounds on F keys worked ok. I had to reset CV8=8 to get back any motor control. Once I’d done this, it did exactly the same after running in the opposite direction for 30 mins. Each time the laptop had gone to sleep. Whether this is decoder, JMRI or DCC-EX related, I’ll have to investigate first before I pick the correct group to post to. I’ve never had this with an MX and this is the first time I’ve run an MS long enough for my laptop to go to sleep (if it’s even related to that).
Started by Daniel Mcmillan @ · Most recent @
MS500 can’t read CVs 74
Hi, I’ve installed an ms500 in an N gauge class 52 western. It powers up, all the sounds work and motor moves etc on address 3 as expected. I went to read some CVs in order to do a little tweaking - firstly to change the address - however JMRI won’t read any CVs, citing “Program error: No acknowledge from locomotive (308)”. When attempting to read, the loco doesn’t twitch back and forth like my locos on mx decoders do, but if I lay a finger on it, I can sense a soft ‘twitch’. I’m using DCC-EX. Is there anything different that needs configuring with the ms500 to be able to read back CVs? Many thanks in advance. Daniel
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MX33 FU 9
After some two and a half year wait I have at last got my own brand new MX33 and having paid almost GBP 500 (635 USD) for it I am somewhat underwhelmed. Yes it is nice and new and the screen is very slightly bigger but so far that is it - the help pages are still in German as is much of the operating manual, not much use to those of us who are unable to read German. What I have been supplied with is a manual one third of which is in English and the remaining two thirds is in German. In fact it is so similar to the MX32 that about half of the manual supplied with my MX33 is directly from the MX32 manual and almost all the screenshots are from the 32 manual Not quite what I was expecting and somewhat disappointing but I expect it will grow on me - we shall see Come on Zimo, you can do better than this!! David Wright
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MX658N18 Decoder Not Working with DCC-EX 12
I have a Kato/HobbyTrain/Lemke AlpPiercer SBB Vectron with sound. JMRI describes the decoder as a Zimo MX658N18 version 37+. This loco has operated with no problems on both of my older layouts. I recently upgraded both layouts to DCC-EX and now the Vectron is “overloading” on both systems. All my other locos (sound and non-sound) operate properly on the new systems. Besides Zimo, I have MRC, Digitrax, Lenz, ESU and Piko decoders and they all work. Also, programming on the new systems work even faster and more reliably than previously. Original DCC (Vectron and everything else runs fine): Main layout powered by a Digitrax DB150/PR3 running JMRI with a USB connection to a Windows 11 PC and Engine Driver. Test layout used original DCC++ powered by an Arduino Uno, Arduino Motor Shield and a headless Raspberry Pi 4B with JMRI and Engine Driver. New DCC (Vectron overloads all others run fine): Main layout powered by DCC-EX on a new Elegoo Mega 2560, new Arduino Motor Shield, USB connected to a Windows 11 PC for JMRI and Engine Driver. Test layout powered by DCC-EX on the above, original Arduino Uno, original Arduino Motor Shield and original headless Raspberry Pi 4B with JMRI and Engine Driver. Failure Mode: The Vectron does power up and the functions work (horn, lights, etc.) while the loco is stationary (speed step 0). However, any throttle setting trips the Mega’s current sensor. Per the DCC-EX Traffic Monitor, the failure mode is “RX: DIAG: TRACK A POWER OVERLOAD 1518mA (max 1497mA) detected after 101msec. Pause 160msec” Any help would be appreciated. If no answer found I’ll try DCC-EX site help. Conrad
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Brawa Doehler @ Haass Decoder 3
Can any one tell me if the Brawa Doehler @ Haass decoders used in Brawa Locomotives work on the Zimo system when using the the MX9 block control system as system autonomous. I only have the MX1 which I purchased in 2005 and then was told by Peter Zeigler that zimo decoders would only work on system autonomous. Roco at that stage were using ESU decoders and would not work with the MX1/Mx9 although they would work manually on the layout. Roco in later years changed from the ESU to zimo decoders and now work fine. Thanks Graham
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Zimo set to 24V but Ramp Meter connected with no other output connection only shows 22.8 Volts? See pic 3
What settings do I need to adjust to get my RR ramp meter to read the full 24Volts DCC output that the Zimo Station shows?
Started by Kevin Lynch @ · Most recent @
Buying Sound File Codes 14
I have been trying to buy the code to free up one of Heinz Drappen sound projects (C-class Shay) and need to enter my address for payment. However the only two countries in the drop down menu are Switzerland and Liechtenstein. I'm in England! Anyone had any success with this and if so how. The payment site is in Switzerland as well. Mark K
Started by Mark Kasprowicz @ · Most recent @
MS500 sound-only…? 23
Hi , Last year I bought a Zimo ms500 with GWR pannier sounds loaded on it. I installed it in some N Gauge rolling stock, intending to use it l as a sound-only decoder and not connected to a motor. I’ve done this many times with the MX series, setting cv#58=0 to turn off back EMF and therefore enabling the chuffing sounds. This was my first MS series decoder and setting the same cv didn’t have the same effect. It’s since been pointed out that disabling BEMF might not be available until a much later software version. One suggestion was to use Speedlock, however when this is activated the sounds are only varied by a limited amount either side of the speed step where Speedlock was enabled. Enabling it alongside F1 (sounds on/off) results in no chuffing at all. A last-ditch idea I’ve had is to get a tiny brushless motor to connect to the motor terminals and would be small and quiet enough to sit in the rolling stock, effectively doing nothing, but would activate the sounds at least. This essentially works, however the catch is that the tiny motor is rated at just 3 volts. Ok… so I bring CV#57 down to 30 to limit voltage to the motor to 3v. This seems to work, except all the sounds match the now much slower speed of the motor. At full throttle, I’m only getting roughly equivalent to 25% of the chuffing speed. Now I get why this makes sense if I were using #57 as a speed limiter, and I also understand that I’m not using this decoder as it’s designed to be used… but before I give up on this, does anyone know if there is a clever way to make this work? If this is a lost cause, I guess I’ll be ordering another MX series decoder and keeping this MS500 for different future project.
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MX 32 fu Data Clear Help 4
A good deal of the loco data on my MX32 had become corrupted after some 5 years usage so I set about clearing the data using the "clear data" function on the config page. All seemed to proceed satisfactorily but now all I have on the screen is a red box with a thick line across the top and the red "MN" light flashing continuously and no buttons or switches change anything. What have I done? and how do I fix it? David Wright
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Factory Visit 5
I am in Vienna on vacation and have an appointment to meet the folks at Zimo HQ and have my decoders updated. They do not sell direct from their factory, so I’ll have to go to a hobby shop to fill my pockets with MX 616’s et al. Cheers David Richie
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Re-pairing mx32fu with mx10 5
Good afternoon everyone. I sent my mx32fu into Zimo for repair. It has since returned and I'm trying to get the device up and running again. Stephan with Zimo said there is a pairing that needs to be done before the mx32fu can be used in radio mode again. I believe I have that done. There are some anomalies with the function and programming. For example engine pictures are missing. When I try to consist half the screen dissappears. And some of the features, buttons are blank. Before I reload the latest firmware/updates later tonight is there anything else I should try? Has anyone else experienced this? There are two ports for the cable on the mx32. Does it matter which one is used with the blue plug end cable? As always thank you for any guidance. -- Michael C
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Stay Alive Tests and Issues 17
Pardon the long post. I work in N scale, with small steam locos and electric MU trains. I have been trying a variety of keep alive or buffer devices in my N scale locos, with greatly varying results. The buffers include ESU Power Pack Mini Lenz USP with Lenz Mini Gold decoder Puff N from Fichtelbahn TCS KA2 (and its Chinese knock-off from LAIS) TCS KA4 TCS KA-N1 Zimo Staco from YouChoos with 3 capacitors supplied by YouChoos Zimo SpeiKomp (assembled from the Zimo-specified collection of parts) I have tried them with the following decoders Digitrax DZ125 and DZ126 Doehler & Hass PD05A ESU LokPilot Micro and Nano Lenz Mini Gold and Silver Zimo MX 62, MX616, MX620 and MX 621 (my favorites, of course) I tested the Lenz Mini Gold decoder 2 ways – with the Lenz USP buffer, and with the other buffer units. In the latter case, I simply connected the 2 leads from the buffer to the plus and ground solder pads on the decoder, ignoring the separate (control) solder pad. I have used or tested these both in locos and in a home-made decoder tester that uses a 10mm coreless motor (less than 0.1 amp draw) to check the motor outputs and a pair of mini 16v grain-of-rice lamps to check the light outputs, and an additional pair of wires from the plus and ground wires on the decoder with lips to attach the appropriate leads on the buffer device. I always disable analogue conversion. Results The only buffer devices that appear to have any effect at all are the Lenz USP and the TCS KA2 and KA4. The Lenz USP, when used with the Mini Gold decoder and fully charged, provides at least 1 -3 seconds of continued running. The TCS KA2 and KA4 provide 5 – 10 seconds or even more of continued running and lighting. Indeed, one of my small steam locos with a 10mm Faulhaber motor, a KA2, and a Zimo MX616 decoder, will continue running on dead track for several feet before quitting. These results are consistent over all the decoders listed above. I have a tram that uses an 8mm coreless motor, a Digitrax DZ126 decoder and a TCS KA2. Its LED lights will stay on for over a minute even when sitting on the ground. According to Zimo, the TCS units are not compatible with the Zimo decoders listed above. I have, indeed, noted odd behavior of the sort predicted by Zimo (rejecting or refusing to acknowledge programming commands, and running away after programming) with a few but by no means all my Zimo decoders when used with the TCS products. Aside from the TCS KA 2 and KA4 and the Lenz Gold, the other keep-alives provided no discernable buffering effect whatsoever. I was especially disappointed with the Fichtelbahn Puff N and Zimo Staco products, as they are specifically meant to go with Zimo decoders of the sort I use. In every case, successful or not, the decoder is delivering about 10v DC across the plus and ground wires that go to the buffer while the decoder is supplied with track power. With the TSC KA2 and KA4, when track power is cut off, voltage across the buffer decays very gradually from 10 volts, commensurate with the gradually slowing motor and dimming lights. With all the other buffers, when track power is cut off, voltage immediately drops to near zero across the buffer, as if it either did not charge at all, or immediately discharged. The motor and lights stop immediately. Does anybody have any suggestions why this might be? I am 99% certain my soldering work is correct. All the decoders work fine with and without the buffer (save for the odd behavior predicted by Zimo note above when the TCS buffer is attached, which disappear when it is not) I use a Digitrax Super Chief system and JMRI to program the decoders. Track voltage measured with an ordinary multimeter is about 11. Disclaimer: I did not actually try the ESU Power Pack Mini with the ESU decoders. ESU’s manual specifically shows how it should be connected to the LokPilot Micro, but I did not try that combination. It does not seem to work with the Lenz Mini Gold even though it has 3 wires and appears that it might supposedly do so.
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Ms950 dual smoke units. 12
I am stumped. I have a MS950 decoder. The decoder has two smoke unit capability. I've followed the directions for dual smoke unit operating. I have two USA Trains fan driven smoke units.....not utilizing their smoke adapter boards. I have wired as follows. Unit 1: Heater element to v+ and fo6 Fan to vent1and ground. Unit 2: Heater element to v+ and fo7 Fan to vent2 and ground. In ZCS software FO effects on both fo6 and fo7 are set to 80. DIESEL smoke effect. There is no mask or invert checked. Per the instructions the lower fo is the 1st/primary and the higher is 2nd. When I turn on the units only the 1st fan seems to work. I believe both heaters are active as the 2nd produces a whispy meager smoke volume. But certainly not blowing smoke as unit 1 does. Both Heater values are turned down as I run 22v track power. Any ideas why Fan two wouldn't be running? I have the option to use fo4 or fo11 for the smoke and the 5v terminal for Fan but instructions encourage use of the dedicated Fan terminals. I feel like I'm overlooking something very minor which is the problem. I have verified independently the fans work. Thanks everyone for any suggestions. Michael -- Michael C
Started by Michael Clark @ · Most recent @
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