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Phillips Big-Y - new Bennett/Phillips branch
The Big-Y results for Brent Phillips are in. He is confirmed R-Y29969
with Bennett and Thomas. This is phylogenetically equivalent to BY11573. You'll notice FTDNA has changed the terminal SNP for Bennett and Thomas to Y29969 - it's a more reliable SNP to check. Beyond this, there's also a new tentative Bennett/Phillips branch. They both share the following markers (and perhaps some others that are yet to be discovered): 7488239-G-A 22486193-A-T 25311291-T-C These are in rather poor read areas for the Y-DNA test, but I believe at least the first one should hold up under further analysis to create this new branch. I had thought that Bennett and Phillips would share more good SNPs (i.e., they had a more recent common ancestor), but this proves that their lines split after Y29969. But both of them have around 10 good unique SNPs that would provide distinct Bennett and Phillips branches with additional cousin testers. Another good discover with the Phillips and my Smith Big-Y is validation of 5 or 6 other SNP markers that those of us on the Z17911 block share. This means that Z17911 is a bigger/longer block than we had previously thought, thus moving our more recent ancestor in that block closer to modern day. My own VERY rough estimate based on what we know now is that our most recent Z17911 lived probably around 1200 years ago, with the Bennett/Phillips/Thomas/Merrick/Goff Y29969/BY11573 ancestor living around 800 years ago. Brent's results add some very useful information to our project! Jared |
I forgot to mention that I've updated the charts at
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to reflect these changes, in case you prefer a visual view of what's happening. Jared On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 12:45 PM, Jared Smith <jared@...> wrote:
The Big-Y results for Brent Phillips are in. He is confirmed R-Y29969 |
开云体育Thanks for the update. I checked and yes FTDNA does indeed show me as R-Y29969 now with BY11573 shown in light brown meaning presumed positive beside Y29969 on the tree. I also noticed that Rodney Martin is shown as BY11573 on my match list. Thanks also to Joel a week or so ago for the heads-up on the YFull?tree update. Charles?? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jared Smith <jared@...>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 1:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Z16357] Phillips Big-Y - new Bennett/Phillips branch ?
The Big-Y results for Brent Phillips are in. He is confirmed R-Y29969
with Bennett and Thomas. This is phylogenetically equivalent to BY11573. You'll notice FTDNA has changed the terminal SNP for Bennett and Thomas to Y29969 - it's a more reliable SNP to check. Beyond this, there's also a new tentative Bennett/Phillips branch. They both share the following markers (and perhaps some others that are yet to be discovered): 7488239-G-A 22486193-A-T 25311291-T-C These are in rather poor read areas for the Y-DNA test, but I believe at least the first one should hold up under further analysis to create this new branch. I had thought that Bennett and Phillips would share more good SNPs (i.e., they had a more recent common ancestor), but this proves that their lines split after Y29969. But both of them have around 10 good unique SNPs that would provide distinct Bennett and Phillips branches with additional cousin testers. Another good discover with the Phillips and my Smith Big-Y is validation of 5 or 6 other SNP markers that those of us on the Z17911 block share. This means that Z17911 is a bigger/longer block than we had previously thought, thus moving our more recent ancestor in that block closer to modern day. My own VERY rough estimate based on what we know now is that our most recent Z17911 lived probably around 1200 years ago, with the Bennett/Phillips/Thomas/Merrick/Goff Y29969/BY11573 ancestor living around 800 years ago. Brent's results add some very useful information to our project! Jared |
Thanks Jared,
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I was wondering what happened to that test. Also I'm wondering why I can't see Phillips on my match list? Hopefully, it should show up soon. Joel On 2/18/2017 2:45 PM, Jared Smith wrote:
The Big-Y results for Brent Phillips are in. He is confirmed R-Y29969 |
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Oh, that must be Chuck Martin's SNP pack results. I don't see those results at all yet, but that would put him at the same place on the tree as you. We don't know if he's on the same branch as Bennett and Phillips because none of those SNPs are yet in the SNP pack - heck, we just discovered them a few hours ago. :-) Chuck, if this is all correct, that confirms your placement on the tree as Y29969/BY11573 (with BY11573 being the SNP you've actually tested positive for). Joel, I don't see Brent Phillips in my Big-Y matches list either. It seems they're still processing this batch of results. Two new family lines positioned on our tree in one day! Excellent! Jared On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Joel Hartley <joel@...> wrote:
Thanks Jared, |
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