#4192

Greetings and happy holidays to all.

I have a Bachman Spectrum 4-6-0 that runs very well otherwise, but the pilot truck tends to derail on a certain?segment of my handlaid 18" radius track.? All of my other equipment, including a Spectrum 4-4-0, ?runs just fine on this section.? I have re-gauged and re-spiked several times but this engine pilot truck keeps jumping off.

I checked the pilot wheelsets with my NMRA gauge, OK.??

Any suggestions for fixing the problem?? Should I add weight to the pilot truck??

Thanks in advance!

Fred Hanes

San Jose, California

#4193

Check wheel gauge, might be "wide", would work on straight track.

Make sure wheels are square and true on axle. Keep us posted.?

Paul Greenberg

#4196

开云体育

Usually pilot trucks have a spring of some sort to help push them down onto the track.? Look at your 4-4-0 to see what the difference might be.? They probably should be similar.

Vic Bitleris Raleigh, NC

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From: yardbirdtrains@... on behalf of fred_hanes@... [yardbirdtrains]
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 4:04 PM
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Loco derailing - Bachman Spectrum 460

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Greetings and happy holidays to all.

I have a Bachman Spectrum 4-6-0 that runs very well otherwise, but the pilot truck tends to derail on a certain?segment of my handlaid 18" radius track.? All of my other equipment, including a Spectrum 4-4-0, ?runs just fine on this section.? I have re-gauged and re-spiked several times but this engine pilot truck keeps jumping off.

I checked the pilot wheelsets with my NMRA gauge, OK.??

Any suggestions for fixing the problem?? Should I add weight to the pilot truck??

Thanks in advance!

Fred Hanes

San Jose, California

#4198

Fred,

By all means try adding some weight, you have nothing to loose and you will most likely fix the problem. Put it on with a tiny amount of glue first in case it doesn't work. Good luck and happy holidays.

Richard in Vermont

#4200

I'll drop my 2  cents worth ? Two things to look at [more] ? Does it derail at the same spot every time ? Within a close call  either direction
 ? If so , check the curve for proper radius , if it slips out of alignment [?] that will cause problems ?? Springing of that front truck can cause problems , and not all the time either . Go to hoseeker.org for literature , parts breakdowns for your loco , or OEM ???   Henry H.


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On Mon, 12/11/17, rh@... [yardbirdtrains] <yardbirdtrains@...> wrote:

 Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Loco derailing - Bachman Spectrum 460
 To: yardbirdtrains@...
 Date: Monday, December 11, 2017, 7:42 AM


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       Fred,By all means try adding some weight,
 you have nothing to loose and you will most likely fix the
 problem. Put it on with a tiny amount of glue first in case
 it doesn't work. Good luck and happy
 holidays.Richard in Vermont









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#4213

I forgot to include change the direction of travel for all involved ?? If it does it again , same area . then it's the track ?? Henry H?

#4273

Try making a radius checking tool ?? You might have a ''kink'' in that spot ? Run that loco through that curve in the other direction . If it derails there ? Then the cyuve is out of radius ?? Henry H.