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Yes, definently an inspection loco. I agree that the inspection cab location was problematic. Most inspection engines from that time period had a coach-type body mounted over the boiler - sort of like an extended camelback. Red Ball, for one, did a brass inspection engine back in the late '60's/early '70's in HO.

DM



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I seem to recall that picture having also appeared in Railroad Magazine where it was called an inspection locomotive. Nowadays
such inspections seem to be done from cars with a glass rear
window and theater seating. Having seen pictures of other
inspection locomotives, evidently it was usual in earlier days
to inspect from the front. Perhaps some V.P. caught a bull in
his lap, a fashion changing event, being that V.P.s more often
hand out the bull than receive it.
Chuck Peck

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Sean Naylor <a69mustang4me@> wrote:

Hey guys.


I purchased a July 1956 MR for the 0-4-0 booster Industrial tank loco article and I discovered this picture while going through it and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this loco and knows anything about it. It looks pretty cool to model.

Sean


"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!

I agree guys , this design has "issues" , all large and possibly deadly ? Easier , safer to ride in comfort in the office car . Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., ebtnut@ wrote:

Yes, definently an inspection loco. I agree that the inspection cab location was problematic. Most inspection engines from that time period had a coach-type body mounted over the boiler - sort of like an extended camelback. Red Ball, for one, did a brass inspection engine back in the late '60's/early '70's in HO.

DM



-----Original Message-----
From: lnnrr <lnnrr@>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:06 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Has anyone ever seen a cab forward General?




I seem to recall that picture having also appeared in Railroad Magazine where it was called an inspection locomotive. Nowadays
such inspections seem to be done from cars with a glass rear
window and theater seating. Having seen pictures of other
inspection locomotives, evidently it was usual in earlier days
to inspect from the front. Perhaps some V.P. caught a bull in
his lap, a fashion changing event, being that V.P.s more often
hand out the bull than receive it.
Chuck Peck

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Sean Naylor <a69mustang4me@> wrote:

Hey guys.


I purchased a July 1956 MR for the 0-4-0 booster Industrial tank loco article and I discovered this picture while going through it and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this loco and knows anything about it. It looks pretty cool to model.

Sean


"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!

If anyone would like to model an inspection engine, one of the most interesting is the Reading "Black Diamond," a 2-2-2T built in 1889 by Baldwin:



Dennis K


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From: Mike <mwbauers55@...>
To: yardbirdtrains@...
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 12:56 PM
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Has anyone ever seen a cab forward General?


??
Most likely inspection runs were conducted at low speeds that were essential for proper examination of the new trackage.

So a front observation deck on a line where other traffic was shut down would have worked out just fine for inspections of a few miles at a time for the day.

Mike Bauers, on da phone...

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., "Long95209" <long95209@> wrote:

I agree guys , this design has "issues" , all large and possibly deadly ? Easier , safer to ride in comfort in the office car . Henry

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., ebtnut@ wrote:

Yes, definently an inspection loco. I agree that the inspection cab location was problematic. Most inspection engines from that time period had a coach-type body mounted over the boiler - sort of like an extended camelback. Red Ball, for one, did a brass inspection engine back in the late '60's/early '70's in HO.

DM



-----Original Message-----
From: lnnrr <lnnrr@>
To: yardbirdtrains <yardbirdtrains@...>
Sent: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 11:06 pm
Subject: [yardbirdtrains] Re: Has anyone ever seen a cab forward General?




I seem to recall that picture having also appeared in Railroad Magazine where it was called an inspection locomotive. Nowadays
such inspections seem to be done from cars with a glass rear
window and theater seating. Having seen pictures of other
inspection locomotives, evidently it was usual in earlier days
to inspect from the front. Perhaps some V.P. caught a bull in
his lap, a fashion changing event, being that V.P.s more often
hand out the bull than receive it.
Chuck Peck

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Sean Naylor <a69mustang4me@> wrote:

Hey guys.


I purchased a July 1956 MR for the 0-4-0 booster Industrial tank loco article and I discovered this picture while going through it and was wondering if anyone has ever heard of this loco and knows anything about it. It looks pretty cool to model.

Sean


"If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!" - Mario Andretti!

If anyone would like to model an inspection engine, one of the most interesting is the Reading "Black Diamond," a 2-2-2T built in 1889 by Baldwin:



Dennis K

Since the wheel arrangement is given as 2-2-2T, the fuel (most likely anthracite coal, as this was a Reading engine) would have been stored in a bunker within the enclosed area.?? Since the inspection engine ran by itself and did not pull any cars, the engine would not have used very much fuel.?? The boiler was also probably quite small.?? The cylinder size is shown as 8.25 inch diameter x 8.5 inch stroke, for a swept volume of 454.4 cubic inches.?? Compare this to a USRA light Mikado, which had 28 inch diameter x 30 inch stroke cylinders, for a swept volume of 18472.6 cubic inches, more than 40 times the displacement per stroke of the Black Diamond (and the cylinders are filled 4 times per wheel revolution).?? The drivers on the Black Diamond are only 42 inch diameter, while the drivers on the USRA light Mike are 63 inch diameter, so the Mike travels 1.5 times as far per wheel revolution, but you can still see that the steam needs for the Black Diamond
were quite modest in comparison with a road locomotive.


Dennis K



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From: Nelson <greenbrier614@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:33 PM
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??
Dennis, where did they store the fuel? Was there ever a tender in tow?

Nelson

--- In yardbirdtrains@..., Dennis Kunkel <dtkunkel@> wrote:

If anyone would like to model an inspection engine, one of the most interesting is the Reading "Black Diamond," a 2-2-2T built in 1889 by Baldwin:



Dennis K