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What price a DX1?


Greg Holwell
 

Today I noticed a listing of a Yamaha DX1 on Ebay for the bewildering price of AUD$213,084.39. A two followed by FIVE zeroes.

Is the polyphonic aftertouch a justification for such a whopping price?

What other advantages have the DX1 over, say, the DX7IIFD?? Easy editing? You could use the CX5M's DX7 editor cartridge on the cheap.



 

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DX1 and DX5 are just only rare collectors items.

According to Yamaha FM technology, there are NO advantages vs. a DX7mkII(FD).
The DA converters are different, which has impact on sound,- if YOU consider this to be an "advantage".

Poly AT is a nice feature,- WHEN you can really play a keyboard instrument and PRACTISED using polyphonic aftertouch.
If you didn?t up to now,- be prepared for a learning curve.

Am 05.03.2023 um 12:12 schrieb Greg Holwell via groups.io:

Today I noticed a listing of a Yamaha DX1 on Ebay for the bewildering price of AUD$213,084.39. A two followed by FIVE zeroes.

Is the polyphonic aftertouch a justification for such a whopping price?

What other advantages have the DX1 over, say, the DX7IIFD?? Easy editing? You could use the CX5M's DX7 editor cartridge on the cheap.



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If you want to future-proof your DX sounds,? I think avoid anything as exotic as a DX1.?? Get a decent MIDI controller keyboard and install a few instances of a VST.?? There is a “bit accurate” version of the DX7 Mk1 called Plogue Chipsynth OPS7.?? OPS7 has two engines per instance (kind of like a DX5) but can only read SYSEX from an original mk1 DX7.? It sounds identical.?? If you layer a few OPS7 in a DAW you can emulate TX816 sounds (8 x DX7 Mk1) and more!?? You cannot do the poly-aftertouch in OPS7 (even if you had a poly-aftertouch MIDI controller).?? I think that there is a chap who now works for Cherry Audio (Tim Shoebridge) who has written a VST utility that emulates “last note aftertouch” or “first note aftertouch” changes..? but not as functional as the real DX1 aftertouch.


 

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This (MIDI channel aftertouch to last note) was already implemented in Memorymoon "ME80" v2 Yammi CS80 VSTi years ago and works great w/ this plugin.
It?s not invented by Cherry Audio.

I?m a ME80 user AND Cherry Audio customer ...

So,- just saying.

P.

Am 05.03.2023 um 13:02 schrieb Glen Diamond via groups.io:

?I think that there is a chap who now works for Cherry Audio (Tim Shoebridge) who has written a VST utility that emulates “last note aftertouch” or “first note aftertouch” changes..?




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Bruce Wahler
 

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The price of a DX1 in 2023 has less to do with the sound and performance, and more to do with the fact that very few of them were made -- 140, according to Wikipedia.? In the same vein, a mint-condition 1963 Corvette might sell at auction for $500K USD, even though it's not really all that close to being a high-performance 'supercar.'

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I'm an owner of Chipsynth OPS7 and Cherry Audio's GX-80, which contains the 'last note aftertouch' algorithm.

OPS7 is a great emulation of a first-gen DX synth.? (There was a small learning curve from my TX802, because a few parameters have different response curves between the two generations.)? It's functionally a superset of a DX1/DX5, and has a well designed UI that in many ways exceeds the DX1's front panel.? If one enables 15-bit DAC support and GM-style volume control the result is actually audibly superior to the DX1, unless one is looking to clone every limitation of the original hardware.? It has MIDI, split, and pan capabilities not available in 1984-85 products, and it's easier to save and load new banks of sounds.

The poly aftertouch simulation created by Mr. Shoebridge, while not a perfect imitation of real poly AT, is surprisingly useful in practice.? I wasn't aware that it was available in standalone format; I'll have to check it out!

Regards,

-BW

Bruce Wahler
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On 3/5/2023 7:02 AM, Glen Diamond via groups.io wrote:

If you want to future-proof your DX sounds,? I think avoid anything as exotic as a DX1.?? Get a decent MIDI controller keyboard and install a few instances of a VST.?? There is a “bit accurate” version of the DX7 Mk1 called Plogue Chipsynth OPS7.?? OPS7 has two engines per instance (kind of like a DX5) but can only read SYSEX from an original mk1 DX7.? It sounds identical.?? If you layer a few OPS7 in a DAW you can emulate TX816 sounds (8 x DX7 Mk1) and more!?? You cannot do the poly-aftertouch in OPS7 (even if you had a poly-aftertouch MIDI controller).?? I think that there is a chap who now works for Cherry Audio (Tim Shoebridge) who has written a VST utility that emulates “last note aftertouch” or “first note aftertouch” changes..? but not as functional as the real DX1 aftertouch.