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Hi All,
I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this
point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the
time for a couple of reasons:
- The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e.,
moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along
with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day
when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
- I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics
is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the
beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17"
laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference
to this 66-year-old's back.
I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix
Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have
friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed
doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my
digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically,
I'm interested in any experience with:
- Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I
use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
- Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and
Windows 10.
- Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure
DX7 emulation.
Thanks in advance for any insights.
--
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
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Hi All,
I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this
point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the
time for a couple of reasons:
- The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e.,
moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along
with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day
when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
- I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics
is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the
beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17"
laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference
to this 66-year-old's back.
I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix
Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have
friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed
doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my
digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically,
I'm interested in any experience with:
- Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I
use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
- Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and
Windows 10.
- Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure
DX7 emulation.
Thanks in advance for any insights.
--
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
?
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I use Native Instruments FM8 software. It faithfully emulates every patch from my DX7II-FD and even accepts SysEx dumps, so I can transfer entire banks of patches at once.
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On Mar 23, 2022, at 06:03, Bruce Wahler via groups.io <bw@...> wrote:
? Hi All,
I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the time for a couple of reasons:
- The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
- I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference to
this 66-year-old's back.
I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my digital mixer.?
Are there others I should look at?? Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with:
- Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
- Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and Windows 10.
- Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.
Thanks in advance for any insights.
--
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
?
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One of the things I learned early on – like back in the 80s – is that while the TX802 claims to be a rack DX, it’s not exactly. In about 1988, the Yamaha Marketing nobs came out with patches to compete with the new Roland D50 and they were handing them out.? Glassy, breathy, wooden… that kinda stuff.? Very cool and new for FM. Whether operator timing or envelope velocity or others, the patches would not translate to DX.? Maybe it was out on the edges of the functions, but it wouldn’t sound anything like the 802.? Lots of other stuff was plenty close, but most of these were not.? I dunno.? Trouble is, some of these are my absolute faves and are indispensible even today. So dumping the 802, which I’ve considered many times – I run my pair in even/odd mode – hasn’t worked in a simple manner that I’ve found. ? L. ?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2022 8:03 AM
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Subject: [YamahaDX] VSTi FM Synths? Hi All,
I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio 100% of the time for a couple of reasons: - The sheer age of the synth is starting to scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors, etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I flip the switch.
- I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels, affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70 lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10 lbs. out of that would make a big difference to this 66-year-old's back.
I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects in my digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at?? Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with: - Running multiple VSTi instances to get multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some songs.)
- Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk by Bandlab and Windows 10.
- Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II) sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.
Thanks in advance for any insights. --
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
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Hi Larry,
Interesting.? I think I could live with those limits, though.? My
rig has a lot of sound sources:? a Nord Stage 3, a DSI Tetra synth,
SampleTank, and the TX802.? So, the TX is mostly used for
'traditional' FM sounds like glassy bells and horns.? So, I think
that having something that mimics 4-8 DX7s -- or 3-4 DX7s and a good
stereo chorus -- might be all I really need.
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
?
On 3/23/2022 11:09 AM, LarryS wrote:
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One
of the things I learned early on – like back in the 80s – is
that while the TX802 claims to be a rack DX, it’s not
exactly.
In
about 1988, the Yamaha Marketing nobs came out with patches
to compete with the new Roland D50 and they were handing
them out.? Glassy, breathy, wooden… that kinda stuff.? Very
cool and new for FM.
Whether
operator timing or envelope velocity or others, the patches
would not translate to DX.? Maybe it was out on the edges of
the functions, but it wouldn’t sound anything like the 802.?
Lots of other stuff was plenty close, but most of these were
not.? I dunno.? Trouble is, some of these are my absolute
faves and are indispensible even today.
So
dumping the 802, which I’ve considered many times – I run my
pair in even/odd mode – hasn’t worked in a simple manner
that I’ve found.
?
L.
?
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Hi All,
I have a TX802 that I have been gigging with for years.? At
this point, though, I would like to retire it to the studio
100% of the time for a couple of reasons:
- The sheer age of the synth is starting to
scare me -- i.e., moving around a 30-35 year old piece of
gear in a van, along with it's old set of capacitors,
etc.? I'm waiting for the day when it doesn't boot when I
flip the switch.
- I'm trying to lighten my rig.? Most of the
sound electronics is in a large rack with wheels,
affectionately called "the beast," that weighs about 70
lbs./32kg, loaded, including my 17" laptop.? Cutting 10
lbs. out of that would make a big difference to this
66-year-old's back.
I'm looking at Dexed, Arturia's DX7 V, and Korg's new OPsix
Native, a soft version of their OPsix.? The latter two have
friendlier interfaces and effects, but the 'tech-iness' of
Dexed doesn't really scare me, and I have plenty of effects
in my digital mixer.? Are there others I should look at??
Specifically, I'm interested in any experience with:
- Running multiple VSTi instances to get
multi-timbral use.? (I use multiple FM sounds in some
songs.)
- Crashes and such, particularly with Cakewalk
by Bandlab and Windows 10.
- Ease (or difficulty) of porting TX802 (DX7II)
sounds to a pure DX7 emulation.
Thanks in advance for any insights.
--
Regards,
-BW
Bruce Wahler
Halfmoon-Switch.com?
bw@...
978.597.7008
?
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thx for the link ! I downloaded and installed the demo. 4 min of usage is not much, but I was able reloading the standalone- and plugin- version every 4 minutes and checked it out more deeply. VST2, VST3 and standalone,- on a Lenovo W540 (quad i7, 2.5GHz) Windows 10 Pro laptop w/ 2 SSDs and 16GB of RAM. This is a great plugin ! I?d say it really can do in a DAW what a DX7mkIIFD, TX802 and TX216 do in hardware. Surprisingly low CPU too and in dual-mode. In Reaper, together w/ ReaLimit in VSTi channel and 2 more plugins in the master section (Loudmax and Voxengo Span) I got 3,75% CPU regardless of voicecount, just playing polyphonic like I do w/ the hardware. I can imagine buying it. I say as a DX7mkII, TX816 and TG77 1st owner using the hardware still. Owned the old DX7 before I bought the DX7mkIIFD. When the mightl come w/ a "quad-synth" version mimking 4x2 TF-1 modules under the hood, that would be ice on the cake. 4 instances will do too even I?d expect better handling from a single plugin on a single track. :-) Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via groups.io: I would recommend this:
jb
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B.t.w, I tried it for hrs now, but cannot find a way responding to MIDI program change commands even in "settings" I checked the box to activate. Tried standalone, VST2 and VST3. While "Dexed" is VST3 only, in Reaper it?s possible to force it to respond to MIDI PrgCh on any MIDI channel I like. So, when you?ve found a way for CS OPS-7,- let us know please. Otherwise it?s unusable in a combinmed soft- and heardware rig for gigging ! Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via groups.io: I would recommend this:
jb
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Did you shoot an email to the company which makes it? Because I bet they can help you quicker than I can (or fix the problem if there's a bug).
B.t.w, I tried it for hrs now, but cannot find a way responding to MIDI program change commands even in "settings" I checked the box to activate. Tried standalone, VST2 and VST3. While "Dexed" is VST3 only, in Reaper it?s possible to force it to respond to MIDI PrgCh on any MIDI channel I like. So, when you?ve found a way for CS OPS-7,- let us know please. Otherwise it?s unusable in a combinmed soft- and heardware rig for gigging ! Am 23.03.2022 um 14:05 schrieb Jeremy Bernstein via : I would recommend this:
jb
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