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Bruce Wahler
开云体育Hi All,I've been paring down my gear lately, and thought I'd pass these items by the list before going to eBay or Reverb.
Please email me directly with questions. -- Regards, -BW Bruce Wahler Halfmoon-Switch.com? bw@... 978.597.7008 PLEASE NOTE: ?The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon. ?Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence. ?Thank you for your understanding. ? ? |
开云体育Just an endorsement for the TX802, FWIW. I bought a new one in 1988.? Still got it. I bought a second one in 1992.? Still got it. The TX802 has a note number response setting of ‘even’ or ‘odd’.? When running two units in even/odd mode, the difference is amazing and satisfying.? It’s not layering like any other keyboard does.? It’s “interleaving” at a note/chord level and it’s amazingly musical. Often layering is with some completely disparate sounds (string-piano, for example), which is fine and it works, but where the TX802 really shines for me is with close-but-not-quite-the-same patches played in even/odd mode.? Even the same patch detuned on one unit can create some stunning highlights. Don’t know if any other modules or workstations do such a thing.? I would think by now it would be commonplace but have heard no one crow about it on any other feature review.? It may have stopped with the TX802 – dunno. So that’s like 6U of rack space that is basically a permanent fixture in my rig. ? L. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 ? Hi All,
PLEASE NOTE: ?The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon. ?Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence. ?Thank you for your understanding. |
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Actually, the 1000 series by Kurzweil can do this too, though it can get a lot more granular with it because it can do slightly different sounds on each note of the octave, assuming you're up for programming that much. But it seems to be from a particular time in synth design.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Just an endorsement for the TX802, FWIW. I bought a new one in 1988. Still got it. I bought a second one in 1992. Still got it. The TX802 has a note number response setting of ‘even’ or ‘odd’. When running two units in even/odd mode, the difference is amazing and satisfying. It’s not layering like any other keyboard does. It’s “interleaving” at a note/chord level and it’s amazingly musical. Often layering is with some completely disparate sounds (string-piano, for example), which is fine and it works, but where the TX802 really shines for me is with close-but-not-quite-the-same patches played in even/odd mode. Even the same patch detuned on one unit can create some stunning highlights. Don’t know if any other modules or workstations do such a thing. I would think by now it would be commonplace but have heard no one crow about it on any other feature review. It may have stopped with the TX802 – dunno. So that’s like 6U of rack space that is basically a permanent fixture in my rig. L. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Hi All, I've been paring down my gear lately, and thought I'd pass these items by the list before going to eBay or Reverb. * Yamaha TX802 -- I have THREE of these synths. I'm keeping one for my own use. This one is in fully working condition. Physical condition is about 8.5/10 by my picky standards: minimal scratches/nicks on front, back, top, and bottom; menu pullouts are still in place and working; the only major issue is that the original owner shortened the power cord to about 1 ft (0,3m). I don't know the age of the battery: I'll replace it before the final sale, just to be safe. Looking to get $400 + shipping. I will ship almost anywhere * Yamaha TX802 -- I bought this one as a spare/parts. It comes up with a partially corrupt display, and fails the self-test with "TEST 01 - RAM IC8 Error!" Scrolling through the self-tests and other menus, it seems like most of the functionality is OK; but the failing RAM causes corrupt display characters and references to sounds in the (non-loaded) memory cartridge. I don't know if this is an easy fix, or something more involved. Physical condition is 8/10 -- except the pullout menus are gone. I'd like to get $175 + shipping; offers will be considered. * Yamaha RAM5 -- genuine item, with original box. I have a PDF of the brief owners' manual. I've seen two different versions of a 'AM5' online lately: this is the one with a Multi-Bank Mode switch on the front, and three more switches on the top for manual bank selection and memory protect. Everything works, including Multi-Bank Mode with a TX802. Physical condition is a 9/10. I'd like to get $75 + shipping. Please email me directly with questions. -- Regards, -BW Bruce Wahler Halfmoon-Switch.com? bw@... <mailto:bw@...> 978.597.7008 ________________________________ PLEASE NOTE: The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon. Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence. Thank you for your understanding. |
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I have a stack of K1000 modules and never knew this.
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Knew they had several modes of rollover and midi, but never noticed they had even-odd. Well, that oughta tie up another bunch of playing around time. Who said the MODULAR guys do all the tweaking, eh? L. -----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:38 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Actually, the 1000 series by Kurzweil can do this too, though it can get a lot more granular with it because it can do slightly different sounds on each note of the octave, assuming you're up for programming that much. But it seems to be from a particular time in synth design. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Just an endorsement for the TX802, FWIW. I bought a new one in 1988. Still got it. I bought a second one in 1992. Still got it. The TX802 has a note number response setting of ‘even’ or ‘odd’. When running two units in even/odd mode, the difference is amazing and satisfying. It’s not layering like any other keyboard does. It’s “interleaving” at a note/chord level and it’s amazingly musical. Often layering is with some completely disparate sounds (string-piano, for example), which is fine and it works, but where the TX802 really shines for me is with close-but-not-quite-the-same patches played in even/odd mode. Even the same patch detuned on one unit can create some stunning highlights. Don’t know if any other modules or workstations do such a thing. I would think by now it would be commonplace but have heard no one crow about it on any other feature review. It may have stopped with the TX802 – dunno. So that’s like 6U of rack space that is basically a permanent fixture in my rig. L. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Hi All, I've been paring down my gear lately, and thought I'd pass these items by the list before going to eBay or Reverb. * Yamaha TX802 -- I have THREE of these synths. I'm keeping one for my own use. This one is in fully working condition. Physical condition is about 8.5/10 by my picky standards: minimal scratches/nicks on front, back, top, and bottom; menu pullouts are still in place and working; the only major issue is that the original owner shortened the power cord to about 1 ft (0,3m). I don't know the age of the battery: I'll replace it before the final sale, just to be safe. Looking to get $400 + shipping. I will ship almost anywhere * Yamaha TX802 -- I bought this one as a spare/parts. It comes up with a partially corrupt display, and fails the self-test with "TEST 01 - RAM IC8 Error!" Scrolling through the self-tests and other menus, it seems like most of the functionality is OK; but the failing RAM causes corrupt display characters and references to sounds in the (non-loaded) memory cartridge. I don't know if this is an easy fix, or something more involved. Physical condition is 8/10 -- except the pullout menus are gone. I'd like to get $175 + shipping; offers will be considered. * Yamaha RAM5 -- genuine item, with original box. I have a PDF of the brief owners' manual. I've seen two different versions of a 'AM5' online lately: this is the one with a Multi-Bank Mode switch on the front, and three more switches on the top for manual bank selection and memory protect. Everything works, including Multi-Bank Mode with a TX802. Physical condition is a 9/10. I'd like to get $75 + shipping. Please email me directly with questions. -- Regards, -BW Bruce Wahler Halfmoon-Switch.com? bw@... <mailto:bw@...> 978.597.7008 ________________________________ PLEASE NOTE: The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon. Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence. Thank you for your understanding. |
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It's sort of even/odd, but it's dependent in how many modules in the chain link -- two will do the even/odd thing, but it can get a lot more interesting if you have more involved. But programming them is a beast, because they've got a lot of modular style routings. (plus 14 stage envelopes) I love the way they blend with FM though.
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 I have a stack of K1000 modules and never knew this. Knew they had several modes of rollover and midi, but never noticed they had even-odd. Well, that oughta tie up another bunch of playing around time. Who said the MODULAR guys do all the tweaking, eh? L. -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:38 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Actually, the 1000 series by Kurzweil can do this too, though it can get a lot more granular with it because it can do slightly different sounds on each note of the octave, assuming you're up for programming that much. But it seems to be from a particular time in synth design. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Just an endorsement for the TX802, FWIW. I bought a new one in 1988. Still got it. I bought a second one in 1992. Still got it. The TX802 has a note number response setting of ‘even’ or ‘odd’. When running two units in even/odd mode, the difference is amazing and satisfying. It’s not layering like any other keyboard does. It’s “interleaving” at a note/chord level and it’s amazingly musical. Often layering is with some completely disparate sounds (string-piano, for example), which is fine and it works, but where the TX802 really shines for me is with close-but-not-quite-the-same patches played in even/odd mode. Even the same patch detuned on one unit can create some stunning highlights. Don’t know if any other modules or workstations do such a thing. I would think by now it would be commonplace but have heard no one crow about it on any other feature review. It may have stopped with the TX802 – dunno. So that’s like 6U of rack space that is basically a permanent fixture in my rig. L. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Hi All, I've been paring down my gear lately, and thought I'd pass these items by the list before going to eBay or Reverb. * Yamaha TX802 -- I have THREE of these synths. I'm keeping one for my own use. This one is in fully working condition. Physical condition is about 8.5/10 by my picky standards: minimal scratches/nicks on front, back, top, and bottom; menu pullouts are still in place and working; the only major issue is that the original owner shortened the power cord to about 1 ft (0,3m). I don't know the age of the battery: I'll replace it before the final sale, just to be safe. Looking to get $400 + shipping. I will ship almost anywhere * Yamaha TX802 -- I bought this one as a spare/parts. It comes up with a partially corrupt display, and fails the self-test with "TEST 01 - RAM IC8 Error!" Scrolling through the self-tests and other menus, it seems like most of the functionality is OK; but the failing RAM causes corrupt display characters and references to sounds in the (non-loaded) memory cartridge. I don't know if this is an easy fix, or something more involved. Physical condition is 8/10 -- except the pullout menus are gone. I'd like to get $175 + shipping; offers will be considered. * Yamaha RAM5 -- genuine item, with original box. I have a PDF of the brief owners' manual. I've seen two different versions of a 'AM5' online lately: this is the one with a Multi-Bank Mode switch on the front, and three more switches on the top for manual bank selection and memory protect. Everything works, including Multi-Bank Mode with a TX802. Physical condition is a 9/10. I'd like to get $75 + shipping. Please email me directly with questions. -- Regards, -BW Bruce Wahler Halfmoon-Switch.com? bw@... <mailto:bw@...> 978.597.7008 ________________________________ PLEASE NOTE: The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon. Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence. Thank you for your understanding. |
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I know what you're talking about. That's "next note" rotation, isn't it? (you had me going there for a minute... I was worrying about my memory... :-) It bounces one to the next on each successive note. And if a guy was to hook up, say, 5 of them, it would rotate through 5 modules instead of just two. That's very cool and musically useful, but that's not even-odd. If we look at a Major scale, we see that scale notes 1, 2, and 3 are a whole step apart, thus are the same (even or odd, let's say even). But scale note 4 is only a half-step away and is then odd. And that means 4, 5, 6, and 7 are odd. But the b7 (of say, the I7 chord) is even again as is the root. So the sound is mixed based on harmony, not succession. Unless you play whole-tone scales a lot, it skips around. It's entirely "predictable" but it happens in a way that's nearly impossible to predict while you're playing. And yes, they blend great with FM, and yes, I gave up on programming almost everything except by a computer based editor. No more screen and buttons for me. L. -----Original Message-----
From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:17 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 It's sort of even/odd, but it's dependent in how many modules in the chain link -- two will do the even/odd thing, but it can get a lot more interesting if you have more involved. But programming them is a beast, because they've got a lot of modular style routings. (plus 14 stage envelopes) I love the way they blend with FM though. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 I have a stack of K1000 modules and never knew this. Knew they had several modes of rollover and midi, but never noticed they had even-odd. Well, that oughta tie up another bunch of playing around time. Who said the MODULAR guys do all the tweaking, eh? L. -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:38 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Actually, the 1000 series by Kurzweil can do this too, though it can get a lot more granular with it because it can do slightly different sounds on each note of the octave, assuming you're up for programming that much. But it seems to be from a particular time in synth design. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Just an endorsement for the TX802, FWIW. I bought a new one in 1988. Still got it. I bought a second one in 1992. Still got it. The TX802 has a note number response setting of ‘even’ or ‘odd’. When running two units in even/odd mode, the difference is amazing and satisfying. It’s not layering like any other keyboard does. It’s “interleaving” at a note/chord level and it’s amazingly musical. Often layering is with some completely disparate sounds (string-piano, for example), which is fine and it works, but where the TX802 really shines for me is with close-but-not-quite-the-same patches played in even/odd mode. Even the same patch detuned on one unit can create some stunning highlights. Don’t know if any other modules or workstations do such a thing. I would think by now it would be commonplace but have heard no one crow about it on any other feature review. It may have stopped with the TX802 – dunno. So that’s like 6U of rack space that is basically a permanent fixture in my rig. L. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Hi All, I've been paring down my gear lately, and thought I'd pass these items by the list before going to eBay or Reverb. * Yamaha TX802 -- I have THREE of these synths. I'm keeping one for my own use. This one is in fully working condition. Physical condition is about 8.5/10 by my picky standards: minimal scratches/nicks on front, back, top, and bottom; menu pullouts are still in place and working; the only major issue is that the original owner shortened the power cord to about 1 ft (0,3m). I don't know the age of the battery: I'll replace it before the final sale, just to be safe. Looking to get $400 + shipping. I will ship almost anywhere * Yamaha TX802 -- I bought this one as a spare/parts. It comes up with a partially corrupt display, and fails the self-test with "TEST 01 - RAM IC8 Error!" Scrolling through the self-tests and other menus, it seems like most of the functionality is OK; but the failing RAM causes corrupt display characters and references to sounds in the (non-loaded) memory cartridge. I don't know if this is an easy fix, or something more involved. Physical condition is 8/10 -- except the pullout menus are gone. I'd like to get $175 + shipping; offers will be considered. * Yamaha RAM5 -- genuine item, with original box. I have a PDF of the brief owners' manual. I've seen two different versions of a 'AM5' online lately: this is the one with a Multi-Bank Mode switch on the front, and three more switches on the top for manual bank selection and memory protect. Everything works, including Multi-Bank Mode with a TX802. Physical condition is a 9/10. I'd like to get $75 + shipping. Please email me directly with questions. -- Regards, -BW Bruce Wahler Halfmoon-Switch.com? bw@... <mailto:bw@...> 978.597.7008 ________________________________ PLEASE NOTE: The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon. Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence. Thank you for your understanding. |
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With two modules it's even/odd, unless you're saying that the TX-802 does even/odd played.
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5 modules/keyboard is my pro-1 setup, BTW. I still need to get my big rack set up differently so I can get both of my Tx-802 units set up side by side, then get them configured even/odd and get my patch maps loaded on them. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 a-HA! I know what you're talking about. That's "next note" rotation, isn't it? (you had me going there for a minute... I was worrying about my memory... :-) It bounces one to the next on each successive note. And if a guy was to hook up, say, 5 of them, it would rotate through 5 modules instead of just two. That's very cool and musically useful, but that's not even-odd. If we look at a Major scale, we see that scale notes 1, 2, and 3 are a whole step apart, thus are the same (even or odd, let's say even). But scale note 4 is only a half-step away and is then odd. And that means 4, 5, 6, and 7 are odd. But the b7 (of say, the I7 chord) is even again as is the root. So the sound is mixed based on harmony, not succession. Unless you play whole-tone scales a lot, it skips around. It's entirely "predictable" but it happens in a way that's nearly impossible to predict while you're playing. And yes, they blend great with FM, and yes, I gave up on programming almost everything except by a computer based editor. No more screen and buttons for me. L. -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:17 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 It's sort of even/odd, but it's dependent in how many modules in the chain link -- two will do the even/odd thing, but it can get a lot more interesting if you have more involved. But programming them is a beast, because they've got a lot of modular style routings. (plus 14 stage envelopes) I love the way they blend with FM though. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 I have a stack of K1000 modules and never knew this. Knew they had several modes of rollover and midi, but never noticed they had even-odd. Well, that oughta tie up another bunch of playing around time. Who said the MODULAR guys do all the tweaking, eh? L. -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:38 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Actually, the 1000 series by Kurzweil can do this too, though it can get a lot more granular with it because it can do slightly different sounds on each note of the octave, assuming you're up for programming that much. But it seems to be from a particular time in synth design. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Just an endorsement for the TX802, FWIW. I bought a new one in 1988. Still got it. I bought a second one in 1992. Still got it. The TX802 has a note number response setting of ‘even’ or ‘odd’. When running two units in even/odd mode, the difference is amazing and satisfying. It’s not layering like any other keyboard does. It’s “interleaving” at a note/chord level and it’s amazingly musical. Often layering is with some completely disparate sounds (string-piano, for example), which is fine and it works, but where the TX802 really shines for me is with close-but-not-quite-the-same patches played in even/odd mode. Even the same patch detuned on one unit can create some stunning highlights. Don’t know if any other modules or workstations do such a thing. I would think by now it would be commonplace but have heard no one crow about it on any other feature review. It may have stopped with the TX802 – dunno. So that’s like 6U of rack space that is basically a permanent fixture in my rig. L. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Hi All, I've been paring down my gear lately, and thought I'd pass these items by the list before going to eBay or Reverb. * Yamaha TX802 -- I have THREE of these synths. I'm keeping one for my own use. This one is in fully working condition. Physical condition is about 8.5/10 by my picky standards: minimal scratches/nicks on front, back, top, and bottom; menu pullouts are still in place and working; the only major issue is that the original owner shortened the power cord to about 1 ft (0,3m). I don't know the age of the battery: I'll replace it before the final sale, just to be safe. Looking to get $400 + shipping. I will ship almost anywhere * Yamaha TX802 -- I bought this one as a spare/parts. It comes up with a partially corrupt display, and fails the self-test with "TEST 01 - RAM IC8 Error!" Scrolling through the self-tests and other menus, it seems like most of the functionality is OK; but the failing RAM causes corrupt display characters and references to sounds in the (non-loaded) memory cartridge. I don't know if this is an easy fix, or something more involved. Physical condition is 8/10 -- except the pullout menus are gone. I'd like to get $175 + shipping; offers will be considered. * Yamaha RAM5 -- genuine item, with original box. I have a PDF of the brief owners' manual. I've seen two different versions of a 'AM5' online lately: this is the one with a Multi-Bank Mode switch on the front, and three more switches on the top for manual bank selection and memory protect. Everything works, including Multi-Bank Mode with a TX802. Physical condition is a 9/10. I'd like to get $75 + shipping. Please email me directly with questions. -- Regards, -BW Bruce Wahler Halfmoon-Switch.com? bw@... <mailto:bw@...> 978.597.7008 ________________________________ PLEASE NOTE: The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon. Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence. Thank you for your understanding. |
开云体育I've been playing a piece of software called pluginguru unify.? It comes pre-loaded with dexed which is a dx7 simulator.? Unify can have 15 instances of dexed on separate layers each triggered by a different midi channel.? One of the midi utilities is called polybox and can do the next note switch to the next midi channel.? So it is possible to have similar sounding patches being triggered per note and each note can have different pan and level and fx loaded up.? Or the same patch with slightly different parameter tweaks etc...? each layer in unify can be programmed to only listen to one of the midi utilities so if there are other layers using the same midi channels they won't be triggered unless they are listening for the polybox utility. Sent from my Galaxy -------- Original message -------- From: Nicole Massey <nyyki@...> Date: 28/05/2021 03:48 (GMT+00:00) To: [email protected], vision1@... Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 5 modules/keyboard is my pro-1 setup, BTW. I still need to get my big rack set up differently so I can get both of my Tx-802 units set up side by side, then get them configured even/odd and get my patch maps loaded on them. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 9:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 a-HA! I know what you're talking about.? That's "next note" rotation, isn't it? (you had me going there for a minute... I was worrying about my memory... :-) It bounces one to the next on each successive note.? And if a guy was to hook up, say, 5 of them, it would rotate through 5 modules instead of just two. That's very cool and musically useful, but that's not even-odd. If we look at a Major scale, we see that scale notes 1, 2, and 3 are a whole step apart, thus are the same (even or odd, let's say even).? But scale note 4 is only a half-step away and is then odd.? And that means 4, 5, 6, and 7 are odd.? But the b7 (of say, the I7 chord) is even again as is the root.? So the sound is mixed based on harmony, not succession. ??? Unless you play whole-tone scales a lot, it skips around.? It's entirely "predictable" but it happens in a way that's nearly impossible to predict while you're playing. And yes, they blend great with FM, and yes, I gave up on programming almost everything except by a computer based editor.? No more screen and buttons for me. L. -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 8:17 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 It's sort of even/odd, but it's dependent in how many modules in the chain link -- two will do the even/odd thing, but it can get a lot more interesting if you have more involved. But programming them is a beast, because they've got a lot of modular style routings. (plus 14 stage envelopes) I love the way they blend with FM though. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 I have a stack of K1000 modules and never knew this. Knew they had several modes of rollover and midi, but never noticed they had even-odd. Well, that oughta tie up another bunch of playing around time. Who said the MODULAR guys do all the tweaking, eh? L. -----Original Message----- From: Nicole Massey [mailto:nyyki@...] Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2021 5:38 PM To: [email protected]; vision1@... Subject: RE: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Actually, the 1000 series by Kurzweil can do this too, though it can get? a lot more granular with it because it can do slightly different sounds on each note of the octave, assuming you're up for programming that much. But it seems to be from a particular time in synth design. Sent from my HAL 9000 in transit to Jupiter -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LarryS Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2021 6:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Just an endorsement for the TX802, FWIW. I bought a new one in 1988.? Still got it. I bought a second one in 1992.? Still got it. The TX802 has a note number response setting of ‘even’ or ‘odd’.? When running two units in even/odd mode, the difference is amazing and satisfying.? It’s not layering like any other keyboard does.? It’s “interleaving” at a note/chord level and it’s amazingly musical. Often layering is with some completely disparate sounds (string-piano, for example), which is fine and it works, but where the TX802 really shines for me is with close-but-not-quite-the-same patches played in even/odd mode.? Even the same patch detuned on one unit can create some stunning highlights. Don’t know if any other modules or workstations do such a thing.? I would think by now it would be commonplace but have heard no one crow about it on any other feature review.? It may have stopped with the TX802 – dunno. So that’s like 6U of rack space that is basically a permanent fixture in my rig. L. From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bruce Wahler via groups.io Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2021 10:01 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [YamahaDX] FS: TX802 + RAM5 Hi All, I've been paring down my gear lately, and thought I'd pass these items by the list before going to eBay or Reverb. * Yamaha TX802 -- I have THREE of these synths.? I'm keeping one for my own use.? This one is in fully working condition.? Physical condition is about 8.5/10 by my picky standards:? minimal scratches/nicks on front, back, top, and bottom; menu pullouts are still in place and working; the only major issue is that the original owner shortened the power cord to about 1 ft (0,3m).? I don't know the age of the battery:? I'll replace it before the final sale, just to be safe.? Looking to get $400 + shipping.? I will ship almost anywhere * Yamaha TX802 -- I bought this one as a spare/parts.? It comes up with a partially corrupt display, and fails the self-test with "TEST 01 - RAM IC8 Error!"? Scrolling through the self-tests and other menus, it seems like most of the functionality is OK; but the failing RAM causes corrupt display characters and references to sounds in the (non-loaded) memory cartridge.? I don't know if this is an easy fix, or something more involved.? Physical condition is 8/10 -- except the pullout menus are gone.? I'd like to get $175 + shipping; offers will be considered. * Yamaha RAM5 -- genuine item, with original box.? I have a PDF of the brief owners' manual.? I've seen two different versions of a 'AM5' online lately:? this is the one with a Multi-Bank Mode switch on the front, and three more switches on the top for manual bank selection and memory protect.? Everything works, including Multi-Bank Mode with a TX802.? Physical condition is a 9/10.? I'd like to get $75 + shipping. Please email me directly with questions. -- Regards, -BW Bruce Wahler Halfmoon-Switch.com? bw@... <mailto:bw@...> http://halfmoon-switch.com 978.597.7008 ________________________________ PLEASE NOTE:? The AshbySolutions.com domain will be closed soon.? Please use the new (wahler.us) email for all future correspondence.? Thank you for your understanding. |
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