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Re: Intonation on DX7


 

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I have found in my archive another table sent to me by George Chakiris, it uses only small differences. I attached it.

The basic question is how stretch tuning will sound with FM generated electronic piano sound, which is far from the real acoustic piano sound, and if it has any reason to use is. I don’t think it can help to improve sound.

There was interesting discussion many years ago in microtonal composers circles about the relation between timbre and microtonal tunings. I think the person behind the research is a microtonal music composer William Sethares. Try to start here:


Daniel Forro



On Aug 20, 2021, at 3:26, philfrei via <philfrei@...> wrote:

Thanks for the nudge. I was personally emailed a file with settings that contain pitch adjustments for every note, and the equation that generated the numbers. It looks quite interesting, and was developed by the person who contacted me. I assume that the individual reads this list and I'd like to encourage them to share the chart and equation with the full group.

The bottom line, though, is that I don't know yet if there exists a chart on the Railsback effect produced by Yamaha engineers in any of their manuals. I've been a bit more focused on learning whether or not there is an industry-level standard practice on the issue than in testing how it sounds. So far, from the various people who are closer to studio recording tech than I, there doesn't seem to be much use or awareness of these pitch adjustments, which kind of surprises me. Maybe it is related to the ability of an acoustic musician to make adjustments on the fly, as I learned to do when playing the oboe in the studio.

So, unfortunately, the task of testing how it actually sounds got back-burnered. A related project, more front and center a the moment, is a pilot test I have going for an experiment on whether timbre affects the perceived pitch of notes. I'm collecting data from a handful of people, and need to find a good data-analysis person to ensure that what I'm collecting via the test is suitable for quantifying/modeling. (I'm more a composer/programmer than a scientist.)

I haven't used my DX7S in the studio much lately and figuring out the logistics of inputting and using the data is a bit nervous-making (due to unfamiliarity), though probably doable. I've been doing more with an FM synth I programmed using Java that can produce equivalent voices to those I developed on the DX7. When I get a chance, the plan is to work the Railsback Curve data into the functions that convert MIDI pitches to Hz and vice versa, and see how it sounds. If I get this working, I'll post links to a something that compares the two intonations back-to-back. But it could be another month or more.

>From: Eb Myatt
>Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2021 02:19:50 PDT
>Good Morning Phil,
>
>We haven't received any feedback from you since you last posted. So, did you manage to resolve the >"Railsback" tuning issue that you discussed? Please let us know if you have the table for the DX7s >or any other Yamaha synth ?
>
>Best Regards,
>E?




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