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Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Paul W. Ross
 

IIRC, there is a kitty liter formulation that is mostly silica gel. You want it unused, of course...

/paul W3FIS
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Dr. Dramatization
 

yes, rice absorbing the moisture is the same
principle as the rice in the salt shaker
to prevent clumping in high humidity

silica gel packs placed into the microwave for a minute
to make sure they are pink, not blue or green
will also absorb moisture

other drying agents/methods may also be used

peace,

haans )

On Sep 19, 2011, at 11:54 AM, dan.ervin wrote:

your suggestion would probably be best, i was merely sharing my own personal experience - sounds silly, but it worked
Re: 回覆︰ 回覆︰ Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Kelly Bersch
 

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I haven't had a problem yet.? As long as the unit is not opened up the rice won't hurt anything.? Also, there may be some merit to using a bed of uncooked rice and laying the unit on top instead of covering it.

73 de AC7EW
Kelly


On 9/19/2011 9:23 AM, Jo Yip wrote:

rice may get you out of one trouble but may also get you into another trouble........
?
well packed chemical drying agent is safer for your rigs, particularly expensive rigs....
?
wish you luck.
?
73 de VR2YQK
Jo
?

从︰ Kelly Bersch
收件人︰ FT-60@...
传送日期︰ 2011年09月20日 (週二) 12:16 AM
主题︰ Re: 回覆︰ [FT-60] Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

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Uncooked rice is a pretty good drying agent.

73 de AC7EW
Kelly


On 9/19/2011 8:53 AM, Jo Yip wrote:
use rice???
?
I suggest you to use the drying agent.
?
73 de VR2YQK
回覆︰ 回覆︰ Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

 

rice may get you out of one trouble but may also get you into another trouble........
?
well packed chemical drying agent is safer for your rigs, particularly expensive rigs....
?
wish you luck.
?
73 de VR2YQK
Jo
?

从︰ Kelly Bersch
收件人︰ FT-60@...
传送日期︰ 2011年09月20日 (週二) 12:16 AM
主题︰ Re: 回覆︰ [FT-60] Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

?
Uncooked rice is a pretty good drying agent.

73 de AC7EW
Kelly


On 9/19/2011 8:53 AM, Jo Yip wrote:

use rice???
?
I suggest you to use the drying agent.
?
73 de VR2YQK

从︰ dan.ervin
收件人︰ FT-60@...
传送日期︰ 2011年09月19日 (週一) 11:48 PM
主题︰ [FT-60] Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

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I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan
Re: 回覆︰ Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Kelly Bersch
 

开云体育

Uncooked rice is a pretty good drying agent.

73 de AC7EW
Kelly


On 9/19/2011 8:53 AM, Jo Yip wrote:

use rice???
?
I suggest you to use the drying agent.
?
73 de VR2YQK

从︰ dan.ervin
收件人︰ FT-60@...
传送日期︰ 2011年09月19日 (週一) 11:48 PM
主题︰ [FT-60] Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

?


I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

 

Rice is a drying agent... It soaks up liquid great! I would definitely cover it completely, and it does sometimes work but I wouldn't hold my breathe.

--- In FT-60@..., Kelly Bersch <KBBersch@...> wrote:

I've always used enough uncooked rice to completely cover the device that
got wet. Does a great job of drying out the electronics.

73 de AC7EW
Kelly

On 9/19/2011 8:50 AM, dan.ervin wrote:
sorry, i should have specified even though it is implied:
use uncooked rice - either instant or regular.

--- In FT-60@..., "dan.ervin"<dan.ervin@> wrote:
I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan

--- In FT-60@..., "Dr. Dramatization"<gruberhaans@> wrote:
actually a common occurrence
there is a bloke in England who has had several (more than 3) replaced under warranty the hot inside/cold outside environment causes this fogging to occur sometimes not even submerged in water after excessive TX usages then the radio later fails

suspect the radio being sealed seals in that heat as well as water/moisture out

peace,
haans )

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:
Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago.
I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Kelly Bersch
 

开云体育

I've always used enough uncooked rice to completely cover the device that got wet.? Does a great job of drying out the electronics.

73 de AC7EW
Kelly

On 9/19/2011 8:50 AM, dan.ervin wrote: 

sorry, i should have specified even though it is implied:
use uncooked rice - either instant or regular.

--- In FT-60@..., "dan.ervin"  wrote:

I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan

--- In FT-60@..., "Dr. Dramatization"  wrote:

actually a common occurrence
there is a bloke in England who has had several (more than 3) replaced under warranty the hot inside/cold outside environment causes this fogging to occur sometimes not even submerged in water after excessive TX usages then the radio later fails

suspect the radio being sealed seals in that heat as well as water/moisture out

peace,
haans )

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago.  
I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC

???è????° Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

 

your suggestion would probably be best, i was merely sharing my own personal experience - sounds silly, but it worked

--- In FT-60@..., Jo Yip <vr2yqk@...> wrote:

use rice???
??
I suggest you to use the drying agent.
??
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73 de VR2YQK

?????° dan.ervin <dan.ervin@...>
?"?????????° FT-60@...
???é�??—??????° 2011???09???19?—? (é�±??�) 11:48 PM
???é????° [FT-60] Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...


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I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan

--- In FT-60@..., "Dr. Dramatization" <gruberhaans@> wrote:

actually a common occurrence
there is a bloke in England who has had several
(more than 3) replaced under warranty
the hot inside/cold outside environment causes this fogging to occur
sometimes not even submerged in water after excessive TX usages
then the radio later fails

suspect the radio being sealed seals in that heat
as well as water/moisture out

peace,

haans )

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago.
I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water
resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the
scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging
the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some
fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't
bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a
week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there
a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying
a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
回覆︰ Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

 

use rice???
?
I suggest you to use the drying agent.
?
?
73 de VR2YQK

从︰ dan.ervin
收件人︰ FT-60@...
传送日期︰ 2011年09月19日 (週一) 11:48 PM
主题︰ [FT-60] Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

?


I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan

--- In FT-60@..., "Dr. Dramatization" wrote:
>
> actually a common occurrence
> there is a bloke in England who has had several
> (more than 3) replaced under warranty
> the hot inside/cold outside environment causes this fogging to occur
> sometimes not even submerged in water after excessive TX usages
> then the radio later fails
>
> suspect the radio being sealed seals in that heat
> as well as water/moisture out
>
> peace,
>
> haans )
>
> On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:
>
> > Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago.
> > I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water
> > resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the
> > scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging
> > the canoe and my radio.
> >
> > I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some
> > fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't
> > bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a
> > week later, the radio won't turn on.
> >
> > Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there
> > a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying
> > a new (hopefully water proof) model?
> >
> > Mike
> > KI6NLC
>
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

 

sorry, i should have specified even though it is implied:
use uncooked rice - either instant or regular.

--- In FT-60@..., "dan.ervin" <dan.ervin@...> wrote:



I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan

--- In FT-60@..., "Dr. Dramatization" <gruberhaans@> wrote:

actually a common occurrence
there is a bloke in England who has had several
(more than 3) replaced under warranty
the hot inside/cold outside environment causes this fogging to occur
sometimes not even submerged in water after excessive TX usages
then the radio later fails

suspect the radio being sealed seals in that heat
as well as water/moisture out

peace,

haans )

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago.
I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water
resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the
scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging
the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some
fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't
bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a
week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there
a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying
a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

 

I have had luck using the following technique with watches and other HT's...

As others have said, take the battery off of the HT, then get a Tupperware container large enough for the HT to sit in. Pour 1 cup of rice into the container, place the HT on top of it, and seal the tupperware container. Check in 24 hours - the rice should absorb the moisture that has gotten into the radio. If that doesn't work, then I suppose sending it back to Yaesu would be my next step...

73 and good luck
Dan

--- In FT-60@..., "Dr. Dramatization" <gruberhaans@...> wrote:

actually a common occurrence
there is a bloke in England who has had several
(more than 3) replaced under warranty
the hot inside/cold outside environment causes this fogging to occur
sometimes not even submerged in water after excessive TX usages
then the radio later fails

suspect the radio being sealed seals in that heat
as well as water/moisture out

peace,

haans )

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago.
I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water
resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the
scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging
the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some
fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't
bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a
week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there
a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying
a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Dr. Dramatization
 

actually a common occurrence
there is a bloke in England who has had several
(more than 3) replaced under warranty
the hot inside/cold outside environment causes this fogging to occur
sometimes not even submerged in water after excessive TX usages
then the radio later fails

suspect the radio being sealed seals in that heat
as well as water/moisture out

peace,

haans )

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago. I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

 

Hi Mike
? ? ?? Your best bet is to send it to yeasu to look at the water has probably blown something when you switched it on
The radio is only water resistant not water proof I'm afraid to say hope you get it sorted
??????????????????? Billy 2e1axl


On 18 September 2011 16:11, MJ <rccar_novice@...> wrote:
?

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago. I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
Re: DC External Power and Combined Battery Pack Usage

 

The issue is with the original battery pack (with the "sealed"-in-place NiMH batteries).? Connecting an external source of power results in those batteries getting over-charged, thereby shortening their useful life.? In other words, the HT has no intelligent charger built in.? I don't know about the VX7.? My cell phones do.

Andy


On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Bill Peacock <n0aru@...> wrote:
?

I guess i dont understand why there would be any problem using?any alternative dc power source and leave the battery in the radio?
All any ht want's at the ext dc port is whatever the dc voltage the manufacturer suggest's, and the center pin + or -
?
I wired up 2 -? 2.9ah 12 volt sla batteries in parallel?and mounted them on the back of my bicycle with a y connector and power up, charge my Yaesu VX-7R and cell phone without any problems.
?
Bill
?
?

From: Stephen Meyer <tubasteve@...>
To: FT-60@...
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Re: DC External Power and Combined Battery Pack Usage

?
In my experience, an external dc power source has worked well. But yes, take out the attached battery pack or you will have a problem.
On Sep 18, 2011 12:16 PM, "LYLE M" <lylemains1@...> wrote:
> The way I understand it, and have been told, yes, you could use a 12 volt gell cell battery, but you definately want to take the battery pack out! Cause, like I said, I have been told, that the battery pack will get cooked! Correct me if I am wrong on this please!
>
> Lyle
> k5lcm
>
> --- In FT-60@..., "Jim Quattlebaum W4QQI" wrote:
>>
>> OK, so I'm a bit confused.
>>
>> The manufacture list a dc power cord accessory to use with or without a cigarette lighter plug. So, then I would assume that you could transmit and receive using a 12 volt gell cell battery by using the aforementioned power cable with the factory battery pack installed? The manual is lacking on describing this operating mode.
>>
>> I am interested in using the radio for remote operations at 5 watt setting for the better part of a day or two.
>>
>
>



Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

[email protected]
 

开云体育

This worked for a really nice watch I got moisture inside of.? If you have a laptop, the powersupply gets pretty warm.? Take the battery off the radio, and leave it on the working powersupply (physically on it, not “connected” to it.)? leave it on there over night, or two.?

?

Do the same with the battery pack.? (probably won’t save the battery pack, but worth a try)

?

You’re basically cooking the moisture out of it.?

?

It worked for me… your results may vary.

?

Steve

KC8SRF

VE9OO

?

From: FT-60@... [mailto:FT-60@...] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 9:11 AM
To: FT-60@...
Subject: Re: [FT-60] Water Damaged - suggestions...

?

?

So far as I know, the FT-60 was never advertised as water PROOF. ?Water resistant is a totally different thing. ?Submerging the radio requires water PROOF not water resistant.

?

Jack, ae8p

?

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:

?

?

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago. I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC

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Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Michael Farley
 

Mike try to get your hand on some Freon TF (TRICHLOROTRIFLUOROETHANE) try a large electronics shop or maybe ask a ham working the government. The first think you should have done remove battery pack and place the radio down? on a hard surface in the sun and let it try? to dry it self out a couple of hours. While this is happen get a large empty coffee can 3 pound size minimum, fill three quarters of the way full with white rice, place the radio in the can and fill up the rest of the way with rice and wait a couple of day, then reinstall the battery and hope for the best! Caution you mileage may vary do this at own risk! If can get a hold of Freon TF pour a half cup on/in the radio. If the Freon FT in an a aerosol can use about three quarter of can on it. The rice acts as a Desiccant just like Silica Gel Dehumidifies the radio. Use at your risk! AA6TT

From: MJ To: FT-60@...
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 8:11 AM
Subject: [FT-60] Water Damaged - suggestions...

?
Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago. I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
Re: Water Damaged - suggestions...

Jack
 

So far as I know, the FT-60 was never advertised as water PROOF. ?Water resistant is a totally different thing. ?Submerging the radio requires water PROOF not water resistant.

Jack, ae8p

On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:11 AM, MJ wrote:

?

Purchased this model after getting my license a number of years ago. I remember reading (and the confirming) that this model was water resistant prior to taking along with me on a canoe trip with the scouts. During the trip we were sunk twice - completely submerging the canoe and my radio.

I noticed immediately that water was able to get in and cause some fogging to occur between the view window and the LCD. I didn't bother turning it on, figuring something else go wet inside. Now, a week later, the radio won't turn on.

Looking for suggestions - is this something I could repair? Is there a shop you know of that could repair the damage cheaper than buying a new (hopefully water proof) model?

Mike
KI6NLC
Re: MH-37 A4B Ear piece/microphone

 

No experience w/ the unit discussed, but I did purchase a couple of the acoustic tube earpiece sets from ebay with a remote, lapel mount for the mic.? See ebay item # 160507398573.

Very inexpensive but I've used it for several ARES supported events.?


FWIW, my net control folks said they couldn't tell the difference between it and the Yaesu speaker mic.

MW / N4MEW
Re: MH-37 A4B Ear piece/microphone

 

no it sucks, at least when i was testing it talking to myself into another radio. i will get a friend of mine on a repeater this week and try it that way and get back to you. The audio was really light and the closer i spoke into it i could hear the air coming out of my mouth.
?
Bill

From: mayneerc
To: FT-60@...
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 12:17 AM
Subject: [FT-60] MH-37 A4B Ear piece/microphone

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Has anybody used the Yaesu MH-37 A4B ear piece microphone?
Is the mike any good?
Thank you.
Bernard - VA7BLR
MH-37 A4B Ear piece/microphone

 

Has anybody used the Yaesu MH-37 A4B ear piece microphone?
Is the mike any good?
Thank you.
Bernard - VA7BLR
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