Well, darn, Steve. Thanks for all your answers ...

Proper charging of good-quality NiMH packs should result in more than 500 discharge-charge?
cycles.

I just don't know why you're experiencing the problems you are. Submit a ticket to Yaesu and see?
what notes they may have.

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Purchased FT-60R new May 2009, came with side plug-in battery charger, worked well for years.

>> ...The radio works great when plugged into my truck and reads +/- 12v.?

What reads 12VDC? ?The window on the radio when turned on.

>> ... When I use the battery re-charger in the wall outlet it reads 12v+.

What reads 12VDC? The window on the radio when turned on, I even checked the charger with a meter to ensure it has 12v output

>> ... After charging the battery (purchased 18 months ago and seldom used) it will only read about 6v and quickly drops to 5v.

this is not the original pack, nor is it a Yaesu pack, correct?? Replacement battery #1, not from Yaesu

>> ...?I even switched to my original battery but will still only charge to 6v and drops.?

This is the Yaesu pack? Original battery pack

OK - One at a time - but both exhibiting weirdness. Is that AC wall wart charger plugged into a switched outlet? (Hey - I ?have done it myself ... All's charging OK, then I step out of the home office and turn the light switch off ... (grin).)? Wall outlet is not switched

For a third-party pack to fail in 18 months is rather quick. Is it NiMH, too? Yes NiMH

The original Yaesu pack: Are you original owner of the radio and that battery? Yes, Original owner

>> ...?When using the alkaline battery pack I get 9v and works good.

Great. Turn your TX power down to 2W and save on battery longevity. (If you aren't making it at 2W line-of-sight?
with a good antenna, you probably won't make it at 4-5W.

Have either of the packs been opened up/played with? No, both original battery and replacement battery show no sign of damage

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>> ...The radio works great when plugged into my truck and reads +/- 12v.?

What reads 12VDC?

>> ... When I use the battery re-charger in the wall outlet it reads 12v+.

What reads 12VDC?

>> ... After charging the battery (purchased 18 months ago and seldom used) it will only read about 6v and quickly drops to 5v.

this is not the original pack, nor is it a Yaesu pack, correct?

>> ...?I even switched to my original battery but will still only charge to 6v and drops.?

This is the Yaesu pack?

OK - One at a time - but both exhibiting weirdness. Is that AC wall wart charger plugged into a switched outlet? (Hey - I ?have done it myself ... All's charging OK, then I step out of the home office and turn the light switch off ... (grin).)

For a third-party pack to fail in 18 months is rather quick. Is it NiMH, too?

The original Yaesu pack: Are you original owner of the radio and that battery?

>> ...?When using the alkaline battery pack I get 9v and works good.

Great. Turn your TX power down to 2W and save on battery longevity. (If you aren't making it at 2W line-of-sight?
with a good antenna, you probably won't make it at 4-5W.

Have either of the packs been opened up/played with?

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As I recall the FT 60 E, that is the European version, didn’t make the change.

EDIT: Yaesu advises it WAS a "California requirement." But one that made?
it more convenient for us to charge ...

>> ... not sure why ...

Original story was that Yaesu and California decided NOT to let the AC wall wart?
just continuously charge/use electricity without any "shut-off" mechanism.

And, of course, that isn't the proper manner to change NiMH (nor Li-ion) ...

Didn't hear much after that change eight or so years ago.


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If you are using the side power port, the older FT-60’s would charge the battery when plugged in. The newer FT-60’s power the radio only when plugged into the side port. ?You need a drop in charger, otherwise. ? I’m not sure when the change was made, or why.?

The reason I would do this is to have another option of charging my radios. I currently have a powerpole cord with a female cigarette lighter connection and the Yaesu cigarette lighter charger that I can connect to each other and that will charge the radio. I am just looking for another option to have to charge my radios.

Thanks all!!

73,

Stuart W1SLC

My Yaesu FT-60 will not charge the re-chargeable FNB-83 battery. The radio works great when plugged into my truck and reads +/- 12v.? When I use the battery re-charger in the wall outlet it reads 12v+.? I also checked the plug in power charger, without being connected, with a meter and it reads 12v.? After charging the battery (purchased 18 months ago and seldom used) it will only read about 6v and quickly drops to 5v. I even switched to my original battery but will still only charge to 6v and drops.? When using the alkaline battery pack I get 9v and works good.

Suggestions?? Perhaps a "bad" battery or something wrong with the charging circuitry?

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When working with an unknown power supply, it would be prudent to verify the voltage and polarity at the radio (or accessory) end of the cable with a DMM.? AA3T

A fuse is appropriate between the barrel connector?and the Andersons.? Other than that, I think using the red & black Andersons for "12V" power is as much as standard as 120 VAC plugs and outlets are.

I'm fairly sure the use of Anderson power pole connectors?is a country-wide standard for "12V" (i.e.: 13.8 V nominal) usage, perhaps even by FEMA.? It certainly is for California OES,?

"State of California OES prescribes the Anderson Powerpole as the standard dc power connector for use by State ACS/RACES personnel, and recommends its use by County and City RACES personnel as well. County of Orange RACES and other RACES groups throughout California and the United States have now adopted this connector. Using this standard, highly reliable connector allows quick and easy installation and substitution of radios, power supplies, batteries, and other equipment."

A quick online search shows it is also the standard for Ohio, Massachusetts, Texas, Kentucky, etc.? I didn't dig deeper as the avalanche was rather convincing.

An important thing to do, of course, is to lock the black & red together?per the standard for additional protection => some people who use these connectors for other voltages will deliberately lock the black and red together in a different orientation so they cannot be misplugged!

I have a mnemonic to remember how to orient.? Knowing that the metal tab for the black and red are oriented on the same side of the connectors when joined, "Red Roof Right"? Red Roof is a motel chain so I can remember that => Red (positioned with the metal on the) Roof (is on the) Right.??

Andy

KI6SEP

On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 11:16 AM Will W6SWF <2sheds@...> wrote:

Is there “failure to communicate” here?

I’m not sure I want to solder the bare leads of a Yaesu E-DC-6 to some Anderson powerpole connectors - even properly polarized - that might get hooked up to “who-knows-what” power source.? Where’s the voltage control?

Is the assumption that this powerpole lash-up is always used on a 12V DC source and no possibility of it being connected to some other power source?

Am I missing something here?

Sounds like an opportunity for great mischief.

Will W6SWF

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Key 6 - and there's a whole page in the manual on the Function Menu and what can be locked!?



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Hi Stuart,

another option would be to get a battery box for the nonrechagables.
You can easily fit a fuse and a reverse polariry protection diode.

You then can attach a cable pigtail with powerpoles.

The downside is, that you cant charge a battery pack with this.

73, Chris

To all,

This has been quite a discussion about PowerPoles, and we have heard multiple facts and opinions.

I realize I do not step in often and generally moderate in "quiet-mode" but this list is specifically about the Yaesu FT-60 handheld and we need to keep on topic for all of those who subscribed to this list for this reason in the first place.

Let's consider this topic closed and return to discussions specifically regarding the FT-60.

Thank you and Happy New Year!

Listowner
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The beauty of Powerpoles, though, is that you can take your equipment to sites /?
Field Day installations / American Red Cross chapters / et al - and have access to?
immediate and painless power ...

Truly close to a "standard" in an industry with so many "variables."


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