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Re: TONE vs. CTCSS vs. DSC
>> ... you never have to use DCS/CTCSS on receive ...
Only time I do is at events on simplex ... Out here in Southern CA, not a single one of my rigs is programed "closed tone" for any? of the repeaters. Two cases-in-point immediately come to mind. We have two high-level machines that "bump into" other legal machines 60+ miles away. I mean, you can sometimes hear the "other" machines break squelch on the "local" machine. If I were to "lock up" onto my local repeater's tone, I just might interfere with those other repeaters. Who knows if someone was calling in a traffic incident ... or just chit-chatting. But it is every ham's responsibility to NOT interfere with others' legal transmissions. Lock up the tone on those machines, and I would never know when I was interfering with someone else. |
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Re: TONE vs. CTCSS vs. DSC
开云体育You NEVER have to use DCS or CTCSS (PL) on receive. These repeaters might put out the tones, but you only have to use them if you are getting interference from other repeaters or electrical devices. ?Anybody can receive without the tones, so remember, just because the repeater might transmit them and you use them, your conversations are not private. Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Ham Radio On Jan 4, 2017, at 07:25, Jim Bassett W1RO@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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PL (Private Line)? CTCSS (continuous Tone-Coded Squelch)
DCS is Digital Code Squelch.
Many repeater directories use PL to mean CTCSS and DPL to mean DCS
They are simply two different ways to cause functions to happen at the remote site.
Many repeaters only use these two different tone methods to open up the repeaters receiver to relay your message.
Some use DCS on both transmit and receive, meaning you have program the tone going both ways through your radio.
Hope this helps..
Jim Bassett,?
W1RO-ARRL Nevada Section Traffic Manager, Life Member
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Re: TONE vs. CTCSS vs. DSC
PL (Private Line)?
CTCSS (continuous Tone-Coded Squelch)
DCS is Digital Code Squelch.
Many repeater directories use PL to mean CTCSS and DPL to mean DCS
They are simply two different ways to cause functions to happen at the remote site.
Many repeaters only use these two different tone methods to open up the repeaters receiver to relay your message.
Some use DCS on both transmit and receive, meaning you have program the tone going both ways through your radio.
Hope this helps..
Jim Bassett,?
W1RO-ARRL Nevada Section Traffic Manager, Life Member
gobig.Isagenix.com
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Re: TONE vs. CTCSS vs. DSC
开云体育Tone means it produces a pl tone when transmitting. CTCSS means it produces tone AND takes a tone to open squelch. DCS is a digital method of opening/closing squelch. Same purpose as the other two, just a different method. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? From: antonio.loureiro@... [FT-60]
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 6:12 PM To: FT-60@... Subject: [FT-60] TONE vs. CTCSS vs. DSC ? ?
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TONE vs. CTCSS vs. DSC
Hi there.
Sorry if this question seems simple and novice, bit I really need help understanding why Ft60 makes such differentiations. I get the last two tones perfectly. But the TONE option throws me off..... I have no idea why it's there and what to do with it and WHEN..... FW #1, is the menu, of course. Thank in advance Tony PU1JRY |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
Great little HT! I made a bunch of contacts last night on SO-50. I modified my antenna for working duplex (with the Baofeng as transmitter) and on a very low pass today I heard my own signal faint and scratchy as I keyed it. Hope to master that system because the sat can get very busy at times. Will try a fairly good AO-85 pass in a few minutes.
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
Steve
开云体育"When you go to save the new info to the existing channel, look to see what channel number you are modifying. If the channel number is flashing, that is the next open channel. Rotate the dial back to the other number, then save it."Ahh, that is indeed the information I've been looking for. It's so easy once you know how. Too bad that simple sentence doesn't appear in the manual.? 73,? Steve JS6TMW |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
开云体育When you go to save the new info to the existing channel, look to see what channel number you are modifying. ?If the channel number is flashing, that is the next open channel. ?Rotate the dial back to the other number, then save it. ?The FT-60 is absolutely the easiest handheld to manually program. I believe in the Files section, Cliff had put a one page cheat sheet that shows the steps. ?For computer programming, you can use FT-60 Commander software (free), , CHIRP (free), google it, or RT Systems (expensive, but good). Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Ham Radio On Dec 28, 2016, at 07:15, Steve sumpn4u53@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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I found out what the rig is doing, but am not
what I am doing!!! |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
Steve
开云体育I found out what the rig is doing, but am not what I am doing!!!I did a complete reset so had only empty channels. So now I see that sometimes when I think I have saved the tone data to the channel I had set, it actually saved everything to a higher channel, which I guess is the "first available channel" that the clever microprocessor finds. I finally got a full set of 6 satellite frequencies by deleting channels until only the correctly saved ones were in order. That will work for me for the time being since I can roll through them in order during a pass. Since some of my channel settings were correctly saved and others were not, I must have not been consistent in how I was saving the input information. Can hardly wait until my new programming cable comes in the mail!!! Steve in Okinawa JS6TMW |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
开云体育You have to save the new settings to the same memory channel you are using, otherwise the changes are in VFO only. ?When you changes channels and go back, there is no choice but to use the old settings because you have not resaved the changes. Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Ham Radio On Dec 27, 2016, at 04:01, Steve sumpn4u53@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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Thanks Jardy. That is what I've been doing, and
the "T" comes on for the channel while I am still using that
channel but it reverts to either no tone or 88.5 as soon as I
leave it. The channels I thought I had set to 67 were actually
back to 88.5. The transmit power setting also reverts to LOW. I
did manage to almost make a satellite QSO this afternoon by
manually resetting the tone and power each time I shifted the
receive frequency. Doable but not something I want to live with! |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
Steve
开云体育Thanks Jardy. That is what I've been doing, and the "T" comes on for the channel while I am still using that channel but it reverts to either no tone or 88.5 as soon as I leave it. The channels I thought I had set to 67 were actually back to 88.5. The transmit power setting also reverts to LOW. I did manage to almost make a satellite QSO this afternoon by manually resetting the tone and power each time I shifted the receive frequency. Doable but not something I want to live with!JS6TMW |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
开云体育First you have to turn on 'Tone' (F1), then pick the tone freq (F2), then save in same memory slot. Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Ham Radio On Dec 26, 2016, at 21:02, sumpn4u53@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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That doesn't work either. I think the problem is a factory default tone setting of 88.5 Hz (all repeaters in Japan), which I have not found any way to override, even with Set Menu 50.?? 73, Steve |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
开云体育Resave the channel after making changes.? Jardy Dawson WA7JRD Ham Radio On Dec 26, 2016, at 16:34, Steve sumpn4u53@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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Thanks for letting me join. I recently
got a FT-60 to work the LEO satellites. I didn't get a programming
cable but managed to put in all the uplink and downlink frequencies
for SO-50 and AO-85 on "split" memory channels. I added the CTCSS
tone successfully on the first three SO-50 channels with some
difficulty, but have failed on the rest, using exactly the same
procedure of selecting "tone" [PTT] and then "67 Hz" [F/W}. The
little "T" box goes away when I change channels. I've followed the
instructions carefully and repeated it many times. Maybe someone can
try it on their own FT and then walk me through it.? 73, Steve
JS6TMW in Okinawa, Japan |
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Re: Adding tone to memory channel
Larry Kilbride
Hi Steve sorry I am. Ot smart enough to help. Just saw where you are from and wanted to say hi. Last time I was in Okinawa I was with MCAF.
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SemperFi On Monday, December 26, 2016, 4:34 PM, Steve sumpn4u53@... [FT-60] wrote:
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Adding tone to memory channel
Steve
开云体育Thanks for letting me join. I recently got a FT-60 to work the LEO satellites. I didn't get a programming cable but managed to put in all the uplink and downlink frequencies for SO-50 and AO-85 on "split" memory channels. I added the CTCSS tone successfully on the first three SO-50 channels with some difficulty, but have failed on the rest, using exactly the same procedure of selecting "tone" [PTT] and then "67 Hz" [F/W}. The little "T" box goes away when I change channels. I've followed the instructions carefully and repeated it many times. Maybe someone can try it on their own FT and then walk me through it.? 73, Steve JS6TMW in Okinawa, Japan |
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Re: NEW FT 60 User
Larry Kilbride
Well guess I better confess.?
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I am so ignorant in all this it is sad. I will say that once someone else sent me a file of frequencies I called RTSystems Customer service and they walked me thru it.? On Tuesday, December 20, 2016, 11:28 AM, Martin Espinoza martin.espinoza@... [FT-60] wrote:
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Re: NEW FT 60 User
开云体育There should be a card in the box the cable and disc came in that will walk you through uploading and downloading the radio file into the radio. ?If that doesn't help, RTSystems has pretty good "How To" You Tube videos to go along with the help files in the program. I recently purchased the software and am setting up a file. ?Good luck and have fun! Martin KK6YYE On Dec 19, 2016, at 5:35 PM, gdm64t@... [FT-60] <FT-60@...> wrote:
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Re: NEW FT 60 User
Joel
开云体育I will tell you that you need to DOWNLOAD from the radio first before youdo anything. Then - before you touch that file - save it so you always have that original template.? When you update that template , save it as a different name so you always have the last one that was good. Its pretty much like filling in a spreadsheet. In fact if you enter a few frequencies and tones etc manually into the radio , then when you download from the radio you will get an idea of how to do it ( double click on each cell to update ). Under the TRANSFER tab , check ' USE ALTERNATE WRITE MODE ' thats the only way I could get it to load.? When you click upload or download it will pop up with instructions on what to do with the radio. Hope that helps - email me direct if you have any other questions. 73 Joel KQ0j ? On 12/20/2016 11:42 AM, Kevin McCoy
ve6kjm@... [FT-60] wrote:
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