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Re: Missing Q408 & T406: replacement candidate suggestions?
Hi Jason,
That's good timing! I was just looking at that pdf (Files Folder #7 -? FRG-7 BFO Mod.pdf) and was about to suggest that was possibly what the previous owner was going to do. There have been reports of the existing BFO circuit drifting. When you get your FRG-7 finished you possibly could report on how well the new ceramic resonator BFO mod circuit works. 73 Roger VE7LB |
Re: Missing Q408 & T406: replacement candidate suggestions?
Hi Roger,
Thanks for the speedy reply! On closer examination, the original owner has done the ceramic resonator BFO mod and located the BFO on the underside chassis in it's own little shielded box, complete with feedthrough caps etc.? Really nice job, actually, though a lot of the original PCB trackwork around the BFO has been scratched off, which is a bit of a shame. Had me wondering there for a minute! Thanks, Jason |
Re: Missing Q408 & T406: replacement candidate suggestions?
Hi Jason,
Lex - one of the group members is parting out an FRG-7. His website is https://www.ph2lb.nl/blog/index.php?page=for-sale-frg7-parts . I see one eBay seller in Hong Kong has sold 50 sets of 3 2SK19 for less than $10 and has good feedback. eBay Item # 172163056900. 73 Roger VE7LB |
Missing Q408 & T406: replacement candidate suggestions?
Hi all,
Picked up a FRG-7 as part of an auction lot, and it's in need of a pretty heavy restoration - both cosmetically and circuit operation wise. First up will be electrolytic cap replacement and a thorough check that all supply voltages are where they're supposed to be, and I'll go from there to see what other work needs doing. But I also notice that the previous owner has pulled most of the components associated with the BFO, including Q408 & T406. Looks like Q408, a 2SK19-GR, can be replaced with a common N-ch JFET like the MPF102 (being in Australia, NTE equivalents are not common here) - hope someone might be able to confirm the MPF102 is suitable? And for T406 - guess I'll just try any donor variable inductor coil, especially if it comes from a 455kHz section of a suitable donor radio, perhaps may need to alter the value of C437 to bring it to proper resonance?? Unless someone has a suggestion for a specific, readily available equivalent? Thanks in advance, Jason |
Re: Digital frequency readout for a FRG-7
I put the KRS/Radio West FRG-7 info in the Files Folder /g/Yaesu-FRG-7/files/6%20-%20FRG-7%20with%20non%20GAR-7%20Digital%20Readouts/FRG-7%20KRS%20Displays about a year ago.
The KRS displays must be very rare as I have only seen one on eBay in the last 20 + years. |
Re: Digital frequency readout for a FRG-7
Thanks for the replies , looks like it is not easy to get a Digital Frequency read out that I can connect to my?
FRG -7 without changing or modifying my set too much , I liked the one I seen on top of a FRG-7 receiver that I saw for sale on eBay ,it was a GAR-7 frequency counter and just sat on top of the FRG-7 ,if any of you fellows? ?happen to see or know where I could get a frequency like that that comes with hook up instructions please if ?you don’t mind let me me know , thanks for your time take care stay safe all the very bestRick ? |
Re: Digital frequency readout for a FRG-7
Hi Rick,
The only External Digital frequency readout for a FRG-7 made was the GAR-7.? See eBay item # 353614501469 . Unfortunately the FRG-7 comes with it. Because of the recent interest in Displays I have spent quite a bit of time, this last week, trying to find the GAR-7 installation instructions online. So far no luck. The installation would also work on any other display such as the S & S Engineering PC1. Does anyone actually have a copy of these instructions? The hook-up would go to TP404 (Near Q404). Use RG-174U (1/8") or the larger RG-58 coax. Use a .001 capacitor in series with the coax center conductor and TP404. Ground the shield nearby. The S & S instructions are in the Files Folder #6. Programming is just setting some dip switches that I could give you info on setting. The S & S shows up on eBay from time to time. Or possibly someone making one of the $30 Displays, mentioned in the last week, may want to make more than one. 73 Roger VE7LB |
Digital frequency readout for a FRG-7
Hello ,I have been reading much about Digital frequency read out for a FRG-7 ,is there a kit I can get with hook up instructions for a FRG-7 ,I would like to get one that is outside the receiver even if I have to make a box to put it in , I don,t mind paying a bit more for a unit that comes complete with box and everything I need for hook up.
?I have replaced all the large caps in this unit and it works great , I don,t want a kit that I need to make a lot of changes inside the receiver to make it work ,would be? ?thankful for any info and help on where I could purchase the Digital Frequency display unit that will work on the FRG-7 ,all the very best stay safe Rick |
Re: modern digital readout
Hi Mike,
I did some measurements of the Black eBay case by using the 85mm display mounting screw centers and scaling that to the width of the case. I came up with 135 mm wide (5.31 inches) wide. I started searching Goggle for cases 135mm (5.3 inches) wide and eventually found the All Electronics 1598BSGY case in gray with the ribbed ribbon around it. A google of 1598BSGY took me back to the Hammond site where I found the Hammond Black 1598BBK case. They are 5.26 deep x 5.3 wide x 2 inches high. https://www.hammfg.com/electronics/small-case/plastic/1598 . The cases can have plastic or metal end plates. I suspect that they can be ordered with smokey or red translucent end panels as Hammond has them for other cases. It wouldn't be hard to cut some smokey or red translucent front pieces bought from a plastics or art shop. 73 Roger VE7LB |
Re: modern digital readout
It looks like either of those cases would work. I see some interesting Hammond cases . They even have red front windows available.
I am trying to locate the source of the opportunist cases on ebay. I copied the best case picture and then removed the display and switch from the front and tried a picture match search. So far no luck but I know I have something in a case that has the same top ribs. Will take a look around. I am going to add a folder to the Files display section and add the SanJ instructions there. |
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Re: Why would anyone want a digital frequency display on a FRG-7? Please debate!
That's true Mike! Pity there's no space on the front panel for all those cool controls we want, but if you remove the speaker you can drill the grille full of holes and add loads, starting with Treble, Mid, Bass and Stereo Balance, and then drill loads more holes in the top to relocate the speaker.
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Functionally a digital display is a nonsense: the elegant use of a single 1MHz tuning range for the main tuning dial means that it is calibrated in 10kHz increments which can be adjusted at the ends against the 1MHz spurs so the frequency can be read within at worst 2kHz, or roughly 10% of the IF Bandwidth. So, if you want to keep a watch for a transmission such as 6628kHz you can set your FRG so the full channel is within the receiver bandwidth. A nice challenge is the NCDXF International Beacon Project which has sequential transmissions on 14.100, 18.110, 21.150, 24.930, and 28.200 MHz and you can challenge yourself further to see if you can chase one of the stations up the bands, which should just be possible for 20, 17, 15 and 10 metres! As for broadcast stations, there is no problem tuning to the 5kHz channels.
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Aesthetically it seems like sacriledge to me to spoil a classic and simple design. It's like hot-rodding a classic car except you'll never get this one to go any faster: its limitations are all inherent to the technology used at the time. To do a proper job you should remove all the innards from this 70s model and graft in an 80s model with LED readout thereby ruining two different receivers! Better perhaps to get an 80s receiver to use and keep the FRG-7 on display. This will save trashing not only the appearance but also the resale value.
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?- Julian |
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Re: Why would anyone want a digital frequency display on a FRG-7? Please debate!
because it's cool dude !!!!
every receiver does better with more controls and displays and lights !!!!! |
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