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DR5000 compatible with DigiTrax DB210 OPTO booster?
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Yes. The non-OPTO boosters are fine too as long as you don't mix them with the internal booster in the DR5000 and have a heavy gauge common. Alex -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex On Sat, Jan 27, 2024 at 5:51?PM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote: DR5000 manual refers to optical isolation and H bridge but not sure what this actually means. |
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Thanks Alex,
I couldn't find anything about the DB210 being a H Bridge booster. I noted the DB210 manual does mention not connecting ground for the OPTO version. Then again I couldn't find a ground connection on the DR5000 anyway. Out of curiosity what is the point of OPTO and the significance of H Bridge here? |
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You can still connect a common with an opto-isolated booster. NCE does it this way. The DR5000 doesn't have a ground connection, and apparently isn't opto-isolated either, which is problematic. I went down that rabbit hole with?the DR5033 a while back, I can't remember all the details. Alex -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 1:06?AM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote: Thanks Alex, |
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Why do many have (need?) ground whilst the DB210 OPTO and DR5000 don't/can't?
From what I gather the OPTO bit is to allow DCC signals from another sources to be used without unpleasant things happening. I intend to use LocoNet B to connect the DR5000 to the DB210. Apart from ensuring voltages between power districts are close I assume all will be good. |
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Again, you can still connect a ground to an opto-isolated booster, as NCE does. You can use either OPTO or regular Digitrax boosters with the DR5000, just don't use the DR5000's internal booster for a power district. Unpleasant things may occur. You can use it for an accessory bus if you want to. Alex -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 12:49?AM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote: Why do many have (need?) ground whilst the DB210 OPTO and DR5000 don't/can't? |
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On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 09:33 AM, Alexander Wood wrote:
just don't use the DR5000's internal booster for a power district. Unpleasant things may occur. You can use it for an accessory bus if you want to.So can't use the DR5000 to power a district whenever using another booster, regardless that a DB210 OPTO not requiring ground (actually states not to). Great! As for the DR5000 manual, to quote, what's this all about? If more power is required, use a booster with an H-bridge at the output, such as the DR5033. Older boosters with a common ground connection (e.g. M?rklin?, Uhlenbrock?) are not suitable and will cause short circuits and/or damage to the DR5000. |
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In this illustration from the DR5000 manual shows a DR5000 connected to a power district in conjunction with other DR5033 boosters. Therefore this is either inaccurate or the DR5033 differs from the DB210 Opto. somehow.
In which case what other boosters would be a replacement for the 5033, i.e. different to a DB210 Opto. |
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Nags, The DR5033 apparently isn't opto-isolated and it also doesn't have a ground connection, which could become very problematic. There was some lengthy discussion at one point about this topic, it seems to be a quite flawed design. That's about as far as I understand it, if you want to nerd out on the specifics (which I would quite enjoy even though they're a bit above my head), you'll need an EE who knows this stuff. The practical bottom line is don't mix and match the DR5000/DR5033 with anything else. You can mix and match Digitrax, NCE, Lenz, and TCS boosters just fine as long as the voltages are roughly equal and they have a booster common connected. The YaMoRC booster might be compatible with the DR5000/DR5033, you could ask Karth about that. Alex -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 11:18?PM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote: In this illustration from the DR5000 manual shows a DR5000 connected to a power district in conjunction with other DR5033 boosters. Therefore this is either inaccurate or the DR5033 differs from the DB210 Opto. somehow. |
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On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 08:59 AM, Alexander Wood wrote:
The practical bottom line is don't mix and match the DR5000/DR5033 with anything elseThat's very disappointing!. So no option but to use the DR5000 for an accessory bus and the DB210 OPTO to power the track. I assume the Loconet B connection from the DR5000 to the DB210 OPTO will be OK? |
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Yup. That's fine. Why the OPTO, not just the regular one? Alex -- Alexander Wood Hartford-New Haven, CT Modeling the modern era freelanced G&W Connecticut Northern in HO Digikeijs DR5000 - JMRI - ProtoThrottle - TCS UWT-100 - TCS UWT-50p - Digitrax Simplex On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 10:10?PM Nags via <snowy999=[email protected]> wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 08:59 AM, Alexander Wood wrote: |
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On Thu, Feb 1, 2024 at 12:41 PM, Alexander Wood wrote:
Yup. That's fine. Why the OPTO, not just the regular one?I bought one based this topic: DR5000 operation in relation to issues seen in other DCC Systems The main differences being the booster in the DR5000 is OPTO isolated therefore the Digitrax boosters need to be OPTO isolated or just don't use the track output from the DR5000. |
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