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DR5000 and ESU LokSound address issues.

 
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I have had my DR5000 since about September and have it paired with a 5033 booster.? I have now had a some strange behaviour with the addresses on ESU Loksound V4 decoders.

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Today I bought a new loco and transferred the chip from one loco to another.? The address on the chip was 4077.

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I put the chip on my ESU Lok Sound programmer checked the configuration and changed the address to 4137.

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When I put this loco on the track the DR5000 did not recognise the chip.? I put it on the DR5000 program track and it read the address correctly and any Cv,s.? But it would not recognise the loco on the main or operate it.

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I put it on the program track and changed the address to 3 it worked fine, but when I put it back to 4137 it did not work.? I tried another change this time back to the original address of 4077 and it worked.

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So I reset the chip and tried again, it was still the same.? So I put it on the Lok Programmer and reloaded the project file onto the chip.

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Back onto the DR5000 program track and still the same issues, it will work as 3 or 4077 but not as 4137.

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Now a couple of weeks ago I had a similar problem with a friends loco, it had an address of 026.? It needed reprogramming on the Lok Sound programmer but when it went on the track the DR5000 did not recognise it.? So I reset it, wrote the address on the program track to 026 and it worked.

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But none of this worked today with my chip, I have given up and changed it to 3 for now.

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The odd thing is I setup my old NCE Powercab and the loco worked fine ever time even as 4137, I even tried writing the address on that system and still it would not work,on the DR5000.

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I am not far off giving up with the system, does anyone have any idea what is going on.

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Regards

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Doug
 

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Hi Douglas,

What does it say when you read the address, I’ve found the sometimes if I use the Z21 app to program long addresses it doesn’t work, the address stays the same. ?I now only program long addresses using the DR5000 configuration program on my laptop, then everything is ok.

Regards
Andy


On 15 Mar 2020, at 08:10, douglas.31johnson via Groups.Io <douglas.31johnson@...> wrote:

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I have had my DR5000 since about September and have it paired with a 5033 booster.? I have now had a some strange behaviour with the addresses on ESU Loksound V4 decoders.

?

Today I bought a new loco and transferred the chip from one loco to another.? The address on the chip was 4077.

?

I put the chip on my ESU Lok Sound programmer checked the configuration and changed the address to 4137.

?

When I put this loco on the track the DR5000 did not recognise the chip.? I put it on the DR5000 program track and it read the address correctly and any Cv,s.? But it would not recognise the loco on the main or operate it.

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I put it on the program track and changed the address to 3 it worked fine, but when I put it back to 4137 it did not work.? I tried another change this time back to the original address of 4077 and it worked.

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So I reset the chip and tried again, it was still the same.? So I put it on the Lok Programmer and reloaded the project file onto the chip.

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Back onto the DR5000 program track and still the same issues, it will work as 3 or 4077 but not as 4137.

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Now a couple of weeks ago I had a similar problem with a friends loco, it had an address of 026.? It needed reprogramming on the Lok Sound programmer but when it went on the track the DR5000 did not recognise it.? So I reset it, wrote the address on the program track to 026 and it worked.

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But none of this worked today with my chip, I have given up and changed it to 3 for now.

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The odd thing is I setup my old NCE Powercab and the loco worked fine ever time even as 4137, I even tried writing the address on that system and still it would not work,on the DR5000.

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I am not far off giving up with the system, does anyone have any idea what is going on.

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Regards

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Doug
 

Hi Andy,

Thats the strange thing the DR5000 app on my PC is what I have been using, now that shows the new address when you read it. ?But it will not let you run the loco once out of program mode. ?If I change the address to 3 or 4077 it will work. ?Its almost like the chip or the DR5000 will not let me have another long address.

But as I said above the odd thing is that the LokSound programmer and my NCE Powercab will run the chip with the new address so I am assuming it is something to do with the DR5000.

Regards

Doug
 

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Might seem daft but have you tried programming a higher address in, think my highest is 9007, I can’t remember seeing anything in the manual about certain addresses being blocked so it may well be the 5000?

Andy ?


On 15 Mar 2020, at 10:26, douglas.31johnson via Groups.Io <douglas.31johnson@...> wrote:

?Hi Andy,

Thats the strange thing the DR5000 app on my PC is what I have been using, now that shows the new address when you read it. ?But it will not let you run the loco once out of program mode. ?If I change the address to 3 or 4077 it will work. ?Its almost like the chip or the DR5000 will not let me have another long address.

But as I said above the odd thing is that the LokSound programmer and my NCE Powercab will run the chip with the new address so I am assuming it is something to do with the DR5000.

Regards

Doug

 

Going to try that later. ?I did try a range of long addresses but I get the feeling the the DR5000 will not let it change like a stuck memory if that makes any sense.
 

Now seeing this is very interesting because all my locos are running a treat however a friend bought a couple of his sound chipped locos over the other day and both refused to work though the chips read fine. So we tried programming them on the dr5000 and away they went. However he them took them home and they refused to work on his dynamis. These were a Dapol black label A4 and a Hornby King.?

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Doug,

Try turning off RailCom.?

This may not be your problem but this usually clears up some of these oddities when a decoder works on one but not the other.? ?

At least it is an easy place to start.

Ryan
 

Hi Ryan,

thanks for your suggestion, I have already switched that off after early issues. ?Love your YouTube channel spent plenty of time there.

regards

Doug
 

As an update. ?James from DCC Train automation has been on the case. ?He left no stone unturned going through the system, it may be that my box has a fault, it has gone back to him for full testing. ?Cannot fault the customer service.
 

Doug,

You are welcome.? I enjoyed making them.??

James is a good guy and he will get you squared away!

Ryan
 

Another update. My DR5000has been found to be working fine, it would appear to be something to do with the ESU sound system. It still needs to be investigated but it appears that the ESU Lokprogrammer locks the long address preventing it being changed. This has been replicated. I await the return of my system.

The work around appears to be set it back to the short address using the Low?Programmer then try a new address.

Another great bit of work by James.
 

Got my DR5000 back today and all working.

i have 3 new sound chips V5s, went through the Lok Programmer leaving them on the short address of 3.

I then used the DR5000 to write the long addresses, all worked fine.

I still do not know what happened to my V4 chip which is now dead.
Glad to have my system up and running.

Doug

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