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M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?


 

I have studied the SNPs in my most closest matches. There appear to be two distinct subclades as of now.

M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598
?
and
?
M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5734 > FT90664

Unfortunately, Family Tree DNA does not offer these in the Z58 package for some reason.

I1 - Z58 SNP Pack

Includes the following SNPs on the haplotree:

Z59, Z138, Z139, FGC3447, PF2805, S5619, FGC3466, FGC3481, FGC3491, F2011, Y11873, Y11214, Y11213, Y11212, Y11211, Y8434, Y8433, A6849, A6835, A6827, A6830, A6832, A6839, A6846, Y8432, Y8431, Y8430, Y8429, Y7634, BY1, A6482, S2293, S6277, Y15575, Y15576, Y15577, Y15902, Y15903, S6270, S6275, S20289, A6549, S27836, Y16451, A6553, A6558, A6579, A6583, A6586, A6591, A6592, A6606, A6397, A6552, A6779, A6546, A6781, S6402, Z382, Y5384, Y15694, Z2040, Z58, A285, FGC12741, FGC12742, FGC12744, FGC12748, FGC12752, FGC12754, FGC12755, FGC12757, FGC12759, FGC12760, FGC12763, FGC12764, FGC24330, L1450, L1451, L1452, PH4774, PH5206, S15398, S16501, S18311, S20488, S26361, Y15002, Y15003, Y15004, Y15005, Y15011, Y15013, Y15479, Y15480, Y15482, Y15484, Y15485, Y15596, Y15597, Y16456, Y18238, Y18310, Y18386, Y2170, Y3564, Y3573, Y4111, Y5385, Y5387, Y5390, Y5391, Y6085, Y6086, Y6088, Y6089, Y6090, Y6091, Y6092, Y6165, Y6708, Y7040, Y7041, Y7042, Y7043, Y7044, Y7049, Y7052, Y7055, Y7056, Y7057, Y7232, Y7233, Y7927, Y7931, Y8341, Y8342, Y8343, Y8777, Y8778, Y8779, Y8780, Z2037, Z2039, Z2041, Z2042


Includes the following SNPs that are NOT on the haplotree:

PF1610, PF856, Y18237


 

What is so frustrating is that none of these SNPs in question — A5734, BY152625, BY155598, FT90664?—?are offered for testing by FTDNA, without doing the BigY700, which is expensive and unnecessary in this instance.


 

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Why don't you create a customizes Yseq panel?



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-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
Van: Aaron Hill <hillaj@...>
Datum: 21/02/21 09:36 (GMT+01:00)
Onderwerp: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?

What is so frustrating is that none of these SNPs in question — A5734, BY152625, BY155598, FT90664?—?are offered for testing by FTDNA, without doing the BigY700, which is expensive and unnecessary in this instance.


 

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How does one do that and how will it benefit our little group?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Hans De Beule <hans.debeule@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 1:34:49 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?
?
Why don't you create a customizes Yseq panel?



Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy



-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
Van: Aaron Hill <hillaj@...>
Datum: 21/02/21 09:36 (GMT+01:00)
Onderwerp: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?

What is so frustrating is that none of these SNPs in question — A5734, BY152625, BY155598, FT90664?—?are offered for testing by FTDNA, without doing the BigY700, which is expensive and unnecessary in this instance.


 

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Check out Custom Panels at:

You could create a panel with all the specific SNPs of your little group, including the known private SNPs.

If all/most members (with unknown results for these SNPs) order this panel the resolution will increase. If the SNPs that you want to order are not available you simply can ask to add them to the SNP list.

Best,

Hans



Van: [email protected] <[email protected]> namens Aaron Hill <hillaj@...>
Verzonden: zondag 21 februari 2021 10:37
Aan: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Onderwerp: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?
?
How does one do that and how will it benefit our little group?

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Hans De Beule <hans.debeule@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2021 1:34:49 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?
?
Why don't you create a customizes Yseq panel?



Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy



-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
Van: Aaron Hill <hillaj@...>
Datum: 21/02/21 09:36 (GMT+01:00)
Onderwerp: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?

What is so frustrating is that none of these SNPs in question — A5734, BY152625, BY155598, FT90664?—?are offered for testing by FTDNA, without doing the BigY700, which is expensive and unnecessary in this instance.


 

I discovered two mutations on?, so I am updating the info here.

M253 > DF29 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598
?
M253 > DF29 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > FT90664

-- Aaron


 

There is some confusion about the placement of Z58. It is excluded on these maps, but I do think the following is accurate.

M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598
?
M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > FT90664

-- Aaron